A "Christian" Says All Atheists Are Insane and Evil

Originally posted by Equinox99
I don't understand what more you want. Do you want me to build a time machine and show you?

I want you to get a dictionary. I am not sure what a time machine could possible accomplish in proving to me that communism and secularism and atheism are all the same thing.

Atheism - the belief that there is no god.

Secularism - god? Who brought up gods?

Originally posted by digby888
reply to post by K J Gunderson

 

the reason is you are taring every christian with the same brush and i have heard the same rubbish on this site alot

Run-on sentences are very distracting. Cramming 40 different thoughts into one sentence makes it hard to read and even harder to care about. Just a tip.

Why might I be painting with such a broad brush?

Thread title:"A 'Christian' Says All Atheists Are Insane and Evil"

Did you see that? What thread did you mean to be commenting on?

wich is just wrong do you think no one else do these crimes so why is it that some athiest not all i might add use this as there big argument

I never said that other people do not commit crime and that is not the base of the argument.

If an atheist kills people, that is bad. That is not as bad as wiping out an entire continent worth or natives because you think your god told you to.

A child molester is a horrible thing.

A church that covers up for, hides, protects, and even enables child molesters is far worse.

See the difference? Where are all the secular examples of institutions as whole committing such crimes in the name of secularism? Where?

it does not matter what you believe we are all capable of crime

I never said we were not. I again refer you to the thread title. It is pitting Atheists against Christians in the realm of ethical behavior. There are not Atheist groups using their atheist beliefs to impose pain and death on such vast numbers of people to nearly the same extent as those that have called themselves Christian.

and probably the reason prison is a good place to be saved is jesus goes where he is needed the most as in the bible where jesus dines with the tax colectors and other notables

LOL. Never been in a prison have you? There are two main reasons people find religion in prison. 1 - they have nothing but time and it sure looks good to the parole board as well as eases their conscience. The sad thing is that the rate of recidivism for people who found Jesus is no different from the few that did not. What does that tell you? 2 - becoming Muslim is a LIFE SAVER in prison.


[edit on 29-3-2010 by K J Gunderson]

Same old staff over and over again.The main "Tagline" of the Christians:If you are not with us ,you are against us.
You don't believe in our god=EVIL
Why they don't stop for a minute judging the others and look how "good" they are?


Killing is evil....
Killing in the name of god is a divine act.

Destroying a christian church is blasphemy
Destroying ancient temples and entire civilazations is ok.

Shame on them.The world would be a far better place without them.

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by digby888
reply to post by K J Gunderson

 

the reason is you are taring every christian with the same brush and i have heard the same rubbish on this site alot

Run-on sentences are very distracting. Cramming 40 different thoughts into one sentence makes it hard to read and even harder to care about. Just a tip.

Why might I be painting with such a broad brush?

Thread title:"A 'Christian' Says All Atheists Are Insane and Evil"

Did you see that? What thread did you mean to be commenting on?

wich is just wrong do you think no one else do these crimes so why is it that some athiest not all i might add use this as there big argument

I never said that other people do not commit crime and that is not the base of the argument.

If an atheist kills people, that is bad. That is not as bad as wiping out an entire continent worth or natives because you think your god told you to.

A child molester is a horrible thing.

A church that covers up for, hides, protects, and even enables child molesters is far worse.

See the difference? Where are all the secular examples of institutions as whole committing such crimes in the name of secularism? Where?

it does not matter what you believe we are all capable of crime

I never said we were not. I again refer you to the thread title. It is pitting Atheists against Christians in the realm of ethical behavior. There are not Atheist groups using their atheist beliefs to impose pain and death on such vast numbers of people to nearly the same extent as those that have called themselves Christian.

and probably the reason prison is a good place to be saved is jesus goes where he is needed the most as in the bible where jesus dines with the tax colectors and other notables

LOL. Never been in a prison have you? There are two main reasons people find religion in prison. 1 - they have nothing but time and it sure looks good to the parole board as well as eases their conscience. The sad thing is that the rate of recidivism for people who found Jesus is no different from the few that did not. What does that tell you? 2 - becoming Muslim is a LIFE SAVER in prison.


[edit on 29-3-2010 by K J Gunderson]

no i have never been in prison. picking on some ones writing skills is pretty low and childish we do not all have the same skills as others and no i have never been to prison and to laugh at someone for that pretty sad i have met murderers and lots of people in my christian walk who have and have been saved and not for the reason you have writen but because of a true belief that jesus has saved them even after what the have done.

Originally posted by digby888
no i have never been in prison.

Then I guess you should not be making assumptions as to what goes on in there. You have made two points about prison that are apparently based on....

picking on some ones writing skills is pretty low and childish we do not all have the same skills as others

I was not picking on your skills. I was pointing out that when you string 15 sentences together with the word "and" it is hard to read. If you put a period at the end of your sentences, it would be easier. I am not mocking you nor expecting you to wow me with you writing skills.

Do you not see where one sentence should end and the next begin? Have you tried to navigate that kind of post? If you took it personally, so sorry.

I thought the point of writing in response to me was for me to read and understand what you were saying. I was simply pointing out that one slight adjustment would make that sooooo much easier.

and no i have never been to prison and to laugh at someone for that pretty sad

I am not laughing at you for not having been to a prison. I am laughing at your conjecture about something you have no information about.

i have met murderers and lots of people in my christian walk who have and have been saved and not for the reason you have writen but because of a true belief that jesus has saved them even after what the have done.

There is an exception to every rule. Tell me, where are all these murderers that you have met now?

reply to post by digby888


well one of them is now writing and sining christian music, an other is working in a center for people with alcahol problems and the list could go on and on
there are loads of exeptians to the rule you should read a book called miracles from mayhem and more miracles from mayhem by may nicolson from glasgow and the work that she does there and the people she helps there and some of the people that have been saved in prison i have been very privolaged to meet her and and some of the people in the books.
it would be an eye opener for you

Originally posted by digby888
reply to post by digby888

 

well one of them is now writing and sining christian music, an other is working in a center for people with alcahol problems and the list could go on and on

But it does not. Now, please go look at some recidivism stats. Cross reference that with religion in prison. Knowing two guys does not really do much for me. I know three old women that smoked a pack a day until they died peacefully in their 90s. Does that means smoking is okey dokey?

I said there was an exception to every rule. I was expecting a long long list of murderers accounted for. Two? TWO? Whatever.

there are loads of exeptians to the rule you should read a book called miracles from mayhem and more miracles from mayhem by may nicolson from glasgow and the work that she does there and the people she helps there and some of the people that have been saved in prison i have been very privolaged to meet her and and some of the people in the books.
it would be an eye opener for you

My eyes are open. I know people are genuinely saved in prison just like everywhere else. What you do not know is that more people find religion in prison than in any other institution in the world outside CHURCH. Unfortunately, the statistics do not lie. The vast majority of these wonderfully reformed newly religious people leave Jesus in prison when they get out.

reply to post by K J Gunderson

i know that is probaly the case but in my opinion it is there loss i know it is only my opinion but i think i am aloud to have one and as for this thread i do not think athiests are evil and never would try to shove my views down there throat unless they wanted to here it and i would not try to tar them all with the same brush as for what the man said on the other wb site he lost all his respect with me when he started use ing childish name calling in his writings i think people should treat each other with respect and not slag of others beliefs and just agree to disagree

Evil and insane? Pffft! I've been called worse by my mother. Religious fanatics should leave the insults to commedians.

reply to post by Retrovertigo


Your post however is rather one sided. What you said about fundamentalist Christians also applies to Fundamentalist Islam and Judaism.

Most religions think they are right and that everyone else is wrong, but then why wouldn't they? Someone could hardly believe in their faith if they did not take that view on other faiths.

Religion is about as logical as two sides in a war going into battle believing that God is on their side! For me that just does not compute!

[edit on 29/3/2010 by PuterMan]

Not a conspiracy.
This guy's just a jerk.

Originally posted by VictorVonDoom
Evil and insane? Pffft! I've been called worse by my mother.

Me too!
Are you my long lost brother...?

reply to post by intrinsic

Come on, this guy just has to have his brain completely stoped before he spreads his so called "docttrines".

But you are the one spreading his so called "docttrines" here on ATS.

Have you heard what Rep. Monique Davis (D-Chicago) had to say about atheists???

www.abovetopsecret.com...

it beggars belief that someone like this is still working for the government

Originally posted by Yissachar1

Where has secularization of society lead to then??? More crime?? More unwed teenage pregnancies.. Sexual deviancy... Anything goes as long as it feels good attitude? The degradation of society.. A loss of a moral compass.. Materialism.. The breakdown of the family unit... All those are closely linked to secularization...

The secular says we are mere animals so society starts acting as such and when the bad stuff happens they have the cheek to blame God and ask where He was in that....

WOW... Um, no. You're absolutely wrong. Moral codes do not come from God and without religion the only way our morals can go is UP. Look at what a world ruled by religion is like, go ahead and read the history of most of the world, how the religious rule persecuted, killed, tortured and tyrannized everyone who didn't believe their doctrines or follow their God. Genocide is what happens when religion is in control, racism, slavery. Religion was responsible for human sacrifice, animal sacrifice, genocide, tyranny, etc etc

Morals do not come from some invisible sky-man, they are hardwired into our brains through evolution. You can research the evolution of altruism, there are astounding examples of animals that will put their own lives in danger for the good of the group or to save another individual. Moral fiber comes not from any God and if it did come from God we'd be in deep trouble because the Bible thinks its okay to stone people to death, or to wipe out entire civilizations if they worship the wrong deity.

The family unit is part of our evolution but the world has become so interconnected that the same tribal bonds, the communities, are falling apart, this has nothing to do with losing our religion. Teen pregnancy is not caused by being secular, or do you believe that back when everyone was religious there was no such thing as sex before marriage? and what solutions for teen pregnancy have the religious offered, Abstinence Only which has proven to be a complete and utter failure in stopping the problem. Teens are gonna have sex whether they like them to or not at least the secular solution involves safe sex.

We already are animals, we already behave like them in case you haven't noticed. Atheism does not support or result in the sudden loss of all moral fiber so that we run off willy-nilly tearing off our clothes to throw feces with the rest of the apes. We're still human beings, we still have complex language and societal moral codes built on thousands of years of trial and error and bolstered by a natural inclination towards being a communal species with inherent morals built into our brains. This is why when the brain malfunctions you sometimes get psychopaths with no compassion who put no value on human life, its all dictated by the brain NOT an invisible sky daddy.

And last I checked, no one is blaming a non-existent God for things that are the result of human error, flaws in human nature.

As for the OP, that guy is the insane one. Anyone thinking that it is more sane to believe that a magical invisible man in the sky created everything out of thin air than to believe that it all came about via natural processes is either being willfully ignorant or has been indoctrinated into the "matrix" too deeply to be unplugged.



[edit on 29-3-2010 by Titen-Sxull]

What can I say? This thread proves my avatar completely right.

Religion produces nasty pieces of work that just wont accept anything but their way. Open-minded? Bull.

Loving the zionist Israeli dude on here as well! Hi mate - you sure are a nice feller aren't you? Keep up the fun genocide me old mucker!

There is one truth about religion - it's irrelevant. It has no meaning anymore, the mysteries of the world are being unravelled by science. The sham is being uncovered.

Parallex.

I don't think this qualifies as a religious conspiracy. The OP is clearly a troll who knows these kinds of threads spark controversy on this site.

Bad troll is bad.

reply to post by intrinsic


Hang on, are you not in on our atheist plans? Has no one informed you? Ok i better get you up to speed, although i'm not sure how you were not informed about all of this when you signed the contract and handed your blood red kitten fur robe!

Basically we atheists have decided to take over the world. Once this has been accomplished we will cast aside morality and do whatever we like! Beastiality will be common place, children will be given heroin and orgies will be mandatory every Monday (because we all know that Mondays need improving). We will of course have to burn all religious buildings and icons, holy books will be outlawed and the word God will only be permissable during sex or when used in anger.

So there you have it, the atheists secret plan.

Originally posted by Yissachar1
reply to post by countercounterculture

 

Less crime? Less STi's? What planet do you live on dude? Because I want to move there...

I have done my research.. Not by doctored government statistics, but by opening my eyes and seeing whats going on for myself... In my area for instance every other person is on drugs.. Class A drugs at that... Then there is the associated crime that comes with that... Just 30 years ago you could leave your door open around here and be safe at night.. You cant anymore... Those gove stats are damn lies

and you blame athiests for your lack of security?
lack of morality isnt the problem its that the punishments arent harsh enough to keep people from being bad.

[edit on 29-3-2010 by ashanu90]

Originally posted by Yissachar1
reply to post by countercounterculture

 

Less crime? Less STi's? What planet do you live on dude? Because I want to move there...

I have done my research.. Not by doctored government statistics, but by opening my eyes and seeing whats going on for myself... In my area for instance every other person is on drugs.. Class A drugs at that... Then there is the associated crime that comes with that... Just 30 years ago you could leave your door open around here and be safe at night.. You cant anymore... Those gove stats are damn lies

and you blame athiests for your lack of security?
lack of morality isnt the problem its that the punishments arent harsh enough to keep people from being bad.

why do you defend religion so fervently?