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South Korean navy ship sinks, North link played down

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posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:37 PM
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reply to post by alchemist2012
I know, it's just that it seems the government doesn't want to wait for an excuse to do something- it wants to make one, or at least not 'letting a crisis go to waste'

For all we know there could have been an accident on board, perhaps its weapons storages exploded.

Will be very interesting to see any further developments from this.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:38 PM
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For anyone that wants to watch South Korean News here is a addon for Firefox that allows you to watch SK news as well as any other country


Linky

-Kdial1



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:38 PM
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I'm a little bit confused.....

This 'flock of birds' thing is just ridiculous. Clearly, South Korea are trying to downplay the situation. Why would they want to do this? If they downplay this fairly major incident, then what is to stop North Korea doing it again and again....? It seems like an odd way to run your national security.

Does anyone have any insight into this approach?

Thanks,

John



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:39 PM
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Currently on the tube:
MSNBC-Health care talk
CNBC-Money Talk
HLN-Cantor talking
CNN-Cash for gold scam
Fox-Appointments for Supreme Court other postions.

If this was going to be used for a false flag it would be all they, the MSM, talked about, all day. This is not false flag, it's not even a story.

[edit on 26-3-2010 by antonia]

[edit on 26-3-2010 by antonia]



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by rufusdrak
So North Korea actually has nukes and today has threatened and VOWED to nuke the U.S. but we don't care about that...Iraq/Afghanistan have NOTHING but AK 47's and Iran has a NUCLEAR POWER PLANT yet we're destroying them?

What a joke. The U.S. has got to be the most cowardly nation in the history of the human race I kid you not.


I would say that the US has shown restraint because it's not our capital that would be turn into a "sea of fire."

In my opinion, starting a war and letting the South Koreans take the hit would be cowardly. Whatever, everybody is entitled to their own opinion. I'm just not into starting fights and letting my friends take the blows for me.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by konan
here is Seoul of South Korea.
For the first, sorry for my poor English.

I want to let you know the present situation.
It is AM 2:26 now.
Till now 58 of 104 crews were saved.
46 crews are missing.

TV news say that total 9 of the saved are wounded and taken to the hospitals.


Thank you very much for your contribution. Is there any update on the cause being reported in the Korean media?



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:40 PM
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thanks for the link for the SK news!!


second line just to say thanks again..



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by Magnum007
This could be a simple engine fire with explosion being exploited into an excuse to start attacking NK... Usual propaganda... Anyone remember Iraq?? Oh wait, it's still going on...

Magnum


Is the engine in the stern of this ship? I found some general information on the ship but couldn't find where the engine is located. I think your theory depends on if it's in the right location. If so, you could be on to something.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:42 PM
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CNBC is on it now with a Seoul reporter. He's saying there is no statement from the government right now. No statement from the government until tomorrow. He's saying it's unlikely NK caused the ship to sink as this area in question is patrolled by SK ships.

[edit on 26-3-2010 by antonia]



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:46 PM
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The problem is that North Korea has a shock and awe type of advantage, along with having little to lose. South Korea's capital is within range of the Norths extended artillery. Seoul (the capital of South Korea), has +10,000,000 people and that is under fairly cramped conditions. It's a great city to visit; however, it would be a horrible city to be in when the artillery is raining down.

This is the main reason why North Korea can get away with the things that they do. That along with a little backing from China.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by antonia
reply to post by WhatTheory
 

Currently on the tube:
MSNBC-Health care talk
CNBC-Money Talk
HLN-Cantor talking
CNN-Cash for gold scam
Fox-Appointments for Supreme Court other postions.

If this was going to be used for a false flag it would be all they the MSM talked about, all day. This is not false flag, it's not even a story.

[edit on 26-3-2010 by antonia]

And that proves what?

Check again after commercial or wait until the next story. What do you want? 24hr news coverage?
Point is that they are mentioning it. First you said the TV was not covering it and now you are saying it is not enough coverage. Stop moving the goal posts will ya.


Secondly, I guess you missed that I was being facetious in my original post. I don't think it really is a false flag. I was mocking those who always claim everything is a false flag event especially during the previous years.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by konan
here is Seoul of South Korea.
For the first, sorry for my poor English.

I want to let you know the present situation.
It is AM 2:26 now.
Till now 58 of 104 crews were saved.
46 crews are missing.

TV news say that total 9 of the saved are wounded and taken to the hospitals.


There's nothing wrong with your English. Thank you. It is always nice to have first hand information. I hope that the rest of the crew are recovered safely.


It is entirely posible to get a radar lock on a flock of birds. If the flock is flying low on the water it's echo can very easily resemble a ship. Remember an SK ship has been hit. Nerves, adrenalin and fatigue can have great effects on judgement. If I knew that one of my ships was hit without warning and I saw an echo resembling another ship with no IFF, I'd fire a few rounds at it too. My primary objective would be to get my butt home safely, to hell with the other guy. I'm going to error on the side of caution.

[edit on 26-3-2010 by JIMC5499]



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:48 PM
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He's saying it's unlikely NK caused the ship to sink as this area in question is patrolled by SK ships.

If the cause was a torpedo or mine, like was being said earlier, and North Korea is involved, the fact that South Korean ships patrol the waters doesn't mean much.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:50 PM
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Then you should have told me I missed your sarcasm instead of arguing. Sorry, I missed your sarcasm.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by octotom

If the cause was a torpedo or mine, like was being said earlier, and North Korea is involved, the fact that South Korean ships patrol the waters doesn't mean much.


I'm leaning more towards an accident on board. NK doesn't normally hide what they do. If they sank i'm pretty sure they'd just gloat about it considering their nuke threats.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by MotherofBlessings

Originally posted by Magnum007
This could be a simple engine fire with explosion being exploited into an excuse to start attacking NK... Usual propaganda... Anyone remember Iraq?? Oh wait, it's still going on...

Magnum


Is the engine in the stern of this ship? I found some general information on the ship but couldn't find where the engine is located. I think your theory depends on if it's in the right location. If so, you could be on to something.


I was actually just throwing that idea out of my head... It could be any type of accident that can be twisted and used to their advantage... We arent' there to confirm anything, none of us are able to see what's really going on... We are unfortunately stuck with relying what is being told to us by you know who...

Magnum



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:53 PM
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World war 3 been building up for a while now.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:54 PM
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If we are to believe the US needs are best met by, As Bush said extinguishing the "Axis of evil", then whether through the use of a false flag or underhand political tactics, N Korea is next.

For those who dont know, Iran, Iraq, N.Korea = The axis of evil.

Link
en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:55 PM
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Remember the Maine! Could just be an accident. Have to see before I decide. Maybe they can get some data and see if there was a launch of a torpedo.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by octotom
reply to post by antonia
 



He's saying it's unlikely NK caused the ship to sink as this area in question is patrolled by SK ships.

If the cause was a torpedo or mine, like was being said earlier, and North Korea is involved, the fact that South Korean ships patrol the waters doesn't mean much.


It certainly could have been an accident on the ship rather than something fired at the ship. I'd say the following are all still possibilities:
- Engine or other ship malfunction/explosion
- NK Torpedo
- NK Mine
- China or other country weapon test went wrong (unlikely but possible)
- This ship was laying mines and one went off
- Flock of birds kamikaze attack
- Sharks wearing freaking lazers



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