South Korean navy ship sinks, North link played down

Hey everybody theres a 2 for 1 on naval battles today UAE and saudi just exchanged guess the water is where the action is or maybe...................

this kinda of reminds me of this en.wikipedia.org... the Gulf of Tonkin Incident

remember people there still a cold war there (stand off for the last 57 years )

now Great Leader'' Kimmy think's he ready I say WW3 ? or will we be in for another a Police Action ? Time will tell who playing the pawns >?

China . Russia ? as Russia did in North Korea and China/Russia did in Vietnam and in its sister country's ?


it is sad to know that the Country's People is so Brainwashed at birth and do not have a clue about the outside world a True dystopian Orwellian Country at the truest Form I would not be surprised if they all wear uniforms (gray) and shaved head's ( 1984 ) the N Koreans are Limited
Speak any Slang and foreign DoubleSpeak Thought Crimes is there
and that is the few things oh the biggest is School Children are taught their great leader is like a God We Should of Finished the job i the 50s

the Parents (Russia China) of N Korea Need to Discipline their Child

ok enough of me rambling

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Yes...satelites see all!

Even underwater, at night and through the clouds, back on page 5 of this thread, the weather was looked up over there at the time, overcast...same page Elf was naming off the norths submarines. From link on this page ( www.globalsecurity.org... ) the count I got was 35 subs that were included in the 60 percent of the North Korean naval force that is deployed close to the front line area.

Going along with the sarcasm...nothing to see here...we'll tell you what to see when we want you to see it.

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Edit Removed request for sources,

You are right but this happened nearly half a day away, that is the report, but the actual event happened nearly a week ago.

The United Arab Emirates navy is thought to have opened fire on a small patrol vessel from Saudi Arabia after a dispute over water boundaries.

According to one report, two Saudi sailors were injured in the alleged bombardment.

The Saudi vessel was forced to surrender, and its sailors were delivered into custody in Abu Dhabi for several days, before being released and handed over to the Saudi embassy earlier this week.

The incident has shocked diplomats who hope the countries, both key American allies, will help implement the West's strategy to constrain Iran's nuclear and military ambitions.

The clash happened in disputed waters between the coasts of Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi and the peninsula on which the gas-rich state of Qatar sits.

The seabed is rich with oil deposits, while the Dolphin pipeline project to carry natural gas direct from Qatar to Abu Dhabi has provoked irritation in the Saudi authorities. Nevertheless, direct conflict between the two countries' armed forces is highly unusual.

Telegraph

Why was this not reported widely?

Again with the Korean incident, on the BBC news at six in the UK at 6.16 a one minute very brief summary, playing down all issues was made.

I am very suprised the above incident got no TV coverage.

Someone is keeping the lid on these reports, or playing them down.

"It looks as though attempts were made to keep this quiet, which is predictable given the important relationship between the two countries and the strategic relationship with Iran," a Gulf-based diplomat told the British publication. "But it does remind us of the simmering rows that there are in this part of the Gulf."

EDIT to add report as above UPI My above thoughts confirmed

The two most dangerous waterways in the world, have had armed conflict over the last 12 hours and hardly anything on the TV covering these important events in detail.

Kind Regards,

Elf

[edit on 26-3-2010 by MischeviousElf]

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its in the recent post section here and i think it uk news or bbc the source the poster used

Perhaps they were only playing:
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Gosh, am I fast or what?

I'm confused. First they jumped to the conclusion that it might have been N. Korea....then they were firing at an unidentified craft...and now they say it was a flock of birds....
I smell B.S. somewhere...did I step in something?

Well I will tell you one thing if they "TPTB" are looking for a war this is it. Think about it if the plan is war to bring the economy back they are going to use this and if they dont well that should shut alot of people up about it including me.


This is going to go one way or the other and only time will tell but I would prepare for the worst in your mind and hope for the best.

Originally posted by Styki

Originally posted by rufusdrak
So North Korea actually has nukes and today has threatened and VOWED to nuke the U.S. but we don't care about that...Iraq/Afghanistan have NOTHING but AK 47's and Iran has a NUCLEAR POWER PLANT yet we're destroying them?

What a joke. The U.S. has got to be the most cowardly nation in the history of the human race I kid you not.

I would say that the US has shown restraint because it's not our capital that would be turn into a "sea of fire."

In my opinion, starting a war and letting the South Koreans take the hit would be cowardly. Whatever, everybody is entitled to their own opinion. I'm just not into starting fights and letting my friends take the blows for me.

And how many US troops are in South Korea? To say that the US has no horse in this race only shows that more research needs to be done on your part.

Do we know North Korea was involved for sure?

All we know is that a South Korean ship has sunk possibly due to an explosion.

Originally posted by andy1033

Originally posted by belial259
This is certainly a distressing story. I think there have been conflicts between NK and SK ships in the past but I don't know if any have been sunk before.

Exactly this is just entrapment.

Why do you guys always just jump with the wests view?

Since when was S. Korea the west? They seem to be the ones who are reporting this. As for an all out war between the north and south, it has been brewing for the last 50 years.

It's truely terrible if it was an attack that leads to war. Still I don't think anyone is jumping on the "wests" conclusions.

Originally posted by Kram09
Do we know North Korea was involved for sure?

All we know is that a South Korean ship has sunk possibly due to an explosion.

I just read everything that came up in a search. Some sources are running with the story as if it is a fact that N. Korea was the cause but others are not. One quoted S. Korea as saying it could have struck a rock or explosives on the ship that is sinking exploded. Sounds like nobody knows yet and some sources are jumping the gun with speculation. It appears to be nothing but guesses right now.

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en.wikipedia.org...

US 8th Army

Current structure
Eighth Army (Yongsan Garrison, South Korea)[1]

2nd Infantry Division, (South Korea)
1st Brigade Combat Team & 2nd Infantry Division Combat Aviation Brigade stationed in Korea; rest of Division in Fort Lewis (Washington)
65th Medical Brigade
19th Expeditionary Sustainment Command, (Taegu, South Korea)
501st Sustainment Brigade, (Camp Carroll, South Korea)
35th Air Defense Artillery Brigade (Osan Air Base)
501st Military Intelligence Brigade (Yongsan Garrison)
1st Signal Brigade

as of May 1 2009 - 28,000-28,500 US troops in South Korea

I found out what happened. It was domestic violence. He was cheating on her and chaos ensued. Nothing to see here. Move on.

Originally posted by Kram09
Do we know North Korea was involved for sure?

All we know is that a South Korean ship has sunk possibly due to an explosion.

"Do we know North Korea was involved for sure?"

"know" or WISH?

Originally posted by CanadianDream420
^ Yes because you can see Submarines via satellite..

*sigh*

Pssst! If the conditions are right you can see a submarine from a satellite. Some satellites have thermal and surface radar capability. If you have a thermal hit but, no radar hit it is a good indicator of a submerged submarine. This works best in cold shallow water, like the Yellow Sea.

Timeline: North Korea – key events since the end of the Korean war


27 July 1953

The war ends when North and South Korea sign a truce – but there is no formal peace treaty, meaning the two countries remain technically at war. The Korean war cost two million lives.

15 August 1974

There is an assassination attempt on the then-South Korean president, Park Chung-hee, by a North Korean agent in Seoul. Park survives, but the first lady is killed.

9 October 1983

North Korean agents target the venue of a visit by the South's president, Chun Doo Hwan, to Burma, killing more than 20 people including four South Korean cabinet ministers. The president escapes.

29 November 1987

North Korea blows up a South Korean civilian airliner, killing 115 people. The US decides to include the North on its list of countries that support terrorism.

15 June 1999

More than 80 North Korean sailors die in the first Yellow Sea clash since the end of the war.

January 2002

The then US president, George Bush, makes his "axis of evil" speech, which links North Korea with Iran and Iraq.

July 2006

North Korea test-fires medium and long-range missiles.

9 October 2006

An international outcry follows North Korea's first nuclear test, and the UN sets up a series of sanctions.

March-May 2008

North Korea test-fires short-range missiles.

July 2008

A soldier shoots a South Korean tourist dead in the Mount Kumgang special tourism area of North Korea

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Lots of happenings over the years. Wonder what it will take for this pot to boil over?

G.

www.guardian.co.uk...

www.channelnewsasia.com...

Taiwanese President Ma Ying-jeou activated the country's national security mechanism on Friday after a South Korean naval ship sank in the Yellow Sea, the island's Central News Agency reported.

Ma, who was on a tour of South Pacific islands, consulted with top officials and ordered the country's minister of national defence to monitor developments and "adopt necessary response measures," the official agency said.

OK, its now reported as a mishap on-board the ship. A weapons system malfunction of some kind. The wild speculation was wrong.

This shows how important it is to wait until the real story surfaces from the source.

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Originally posted by BrianInRI
This may have nothing to do with it, but the police and some sort of gov't personnel(MP,s maybe?) showed up at my downstairs neighbors(who is in the Navy and stationed on a submarine) at 3a.m. this morning. There was a lot of arguing and then they all left in a hurry with him following the police and gov't vehicle( a grey van with gov't plates). Anybody else know of Navy personnel possibly being called to duty in the middle of the night last night?

That is entirely feasable, and likely.

On the satellite comes the news a American Built Warship, Flagged with its ally has maybe been hit by a torpedo, then is sinking.

I should imagine with the incidents in the Gulf etc, as well a large part of the US submarine force in base was called out to sea pretty quickly.

He is probably on his way there now, but then again so will the British, Russian, Israeli, Chinese and Japenese nations, all were doing exactly the same at the same time last night.

The waters around there, and by default the Gulf might be pretty crowded soon, and any "accident" or "flock of birds" between them, or indefense of allies is very worrying.

Kind Regards,

Elf