South Korean navy ship sinks, North link played down

www.cnn.com...

CNN has a closer look at the hull. Exactly 5 seconds into the video, look at the left side of the ship. Is that a normal part of the hull, or an unusual, abrupt end and a dent? Can be seen again at 50 seconds.

Apparently the water is extremely cold, with snow flurries occurring last night. There may be survivors, but if they were in the water all night, things look grim.

If the ship sank because a North Korean Mine hit it, then that's still an act of war / aggression?

I know the SK Ship was probably a little close to the Border but to plant mines, blow up a ship and kill people really is not on!

The movie "By Dawns Early Light" had the situation where the US President could attack back with an equal amount of casualties and they would call it a day so to speak.

Just can't see Little Kimmy agreeing to that, he seems to want fireworks before he dies and it looks like he might get some!

This is interesting....from the AP
"PYEONGTAEK, South Korea — Relatives of marines missing after a South Korean military ship sank near the disputed sea border with North Korea are protesting over a lack of information about what caused the disaster. About 150 family members at Pyeongtaek naval base south of Seoul pushed their way past security guards Saturday to confront military officials. Screaming "Liars!" some climbed onto the rescued captain's car as he was driving away."

Source............................................. ............................................................. if the families do not have all the info i doubt we know the entire story IMO "cover up"





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[edit on 27-3-2010 by paradiselost333]

Originally posted by SmittyPuffs
Nothing's going to happen. It never does.

The North Koreans are just a bunch of skinny attention whores jumping around with fire crackers and flags trying to get some attention.

Thread summed up nicely!

Thread Update.

It seems to me that they are in a holding pattern to determine their next move.

If any at all.
S Korean warship sinks, rescue efforts continue while 46 missing

WARSHIP SINKING

The patrol ship, named Cheonan, sank near the country's northernmost island of Baekryeong after an unidentified explosion in the back of the ship made a hole in the bottom of it, local media reported citing military officials. Another South Korean naval ship fired at an unspecified object northward in a following action.

President Lee Myung-bak held a second consecutive emergency meeting with security officials early Saturday, following a late- night emergency meeting convened immediately after the news hit home.

"The President instructed the Armed Forces authorities to do all they can to rescue as many survivors as possible. At the same time, he said the authorities concerned should find out what exactly transpired in the incident in a speedy and thorough manner, considering all possibilities," presidential office Cheong Wa Dae spokeswoman Kim Eun-hye told reporters earlier in the day.

As the coast guard is put on the highest alert, all public officers in the country are also put on standby during the weekend at an instruction of Prime Minister Chung Un-chan for possible emergency situations in the wake of the incident.

No fatalities have been reported yet. Thirteen crew members have been hospitalized for injuries but they are not in a critical condition, according to South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff (JSC)

Full Coverage Special Report from South Korean TV News in English

[edit on 27-3-2010 by SLAYER69]

It seems ther is compelling proof that the USA used Biological Weapons in north korea in the Last war.

I have presented the available information, testimonies, scientific studies and research in a thread here:

Has the USA Used WMD in North Korea? - Reports & Testimonies

A very compelling read of the research leaves me in little doubt this event happened.

No wonder Kim and his dad are so paranoid, and maybe indicates why the US and S.Korea are so afraid of provocation as they might expect the same in return.

Needs to be read and understood to put the current situation in focus.

Kind Regards,

Elf

EDIT to add following thread also of interest into Kims mindset etc:

Kim Jong-il bans 2012 disaster movie - will jinx N. Korea’s ’Lucky Year’


[edit on 27-3-2010 by MischeviousElf]

Hello.

I think a war is needed, if one has tried every option, why must he wait for the enemy to kill them off at some point. War is a last option afterall and this seems to be unraveling, a war until a peace treaty gets signed is what I now believe in for the Koreans.

Regards.

I'm just surprised by how much restraint S.Korea has shown, repeatedly in these waters N.Korea has killed numerous of their sailors, fired artillery shells and ICBM launches across into the Pacific, yet S.Korea hasn't YET stepped onto N.Korean soil and finished the stale-mate.

my prayers out to the south korea military family of who lost there loved ones and etc and hope they find out what cause it and to the people of south korea and there coumminty in this world they hear about that sad day in south korea
hope other navy people can pay there respcet to there family and the run that country


[edit on 06/05/2006 by bartgirl]

[edit on 06/05/2006 by bartgirl]

S Korean Navy ship sinks possibly caused by mine explosion

SEOUL, March 27 (Xinhua) -- Friday's Navy ship sinking might be caused by mine explosion, South Korean media YTN quoted Cheong Wa Dae sources as saying on Saturday.

General of the South Korean Navy Lee Ki-shik said later Friday that the 1,200-ton warship Cheonan went down after the unexplained explosion ripped a hole in the ship's bottom.

news.xinhuanet.com...

From what I could determine from what little I saw of any damage on the CNN video,it looks pretty limited.

Wouldn't a mine/torpedo cause more external damage,with scorch marks?
Or are some torpedoes designed to punch a small hole then explode inside the vessel?

I am no expert,but just did not seem to notice much in the way of external damage.

Could it even have been caused by hitting an underwater object like a big rock?
Or do we have definitive info that there was an explosion of some kind?

Originally posted by ressiv

Originally posted by john124
reply to post by overextended1

 

Yeah, didn't you realize that every sophisticated ship fires on flocks of birds quite frequently.

In a paranoid state, I can imagine a ship firing on a cloud, but with its smaller guns, not cruise missiles or nuclear warheads.

hopefully the flock of birds were not placed in an animal protecting program....if so the sinking of the ZK vessel was justice....

serious...the vessel went probery under by there own stupidety....violatating borders...ore accident aboard the ship itself...
ofcourse the ZK/US gov's will take the best advances of the issue....

[edit on 27-3-2010 by ressiv]

[edit on 27-3-2010 by ressiv]

You just gave me a good laugh. Imagine the Animal Rights Groups position on this. Next thing you know, it will be plastered all over the major news webites, etc. haha!

Anyway, I'm just happy that it's being downplayed as of this point, and hopefully just an accident(I personally don't think it was)

My guess is that this will turn into old news, pretty quick. Maybe not.....

'Low possibility of internal explosion'

Experts speculate on largely three possible causes for the explosion of the 1,200-ton patrol ship Cheonan on Friday -- an explosion within the ship due to internal defects or malfunctioning, accidental collision with a reef or other objects, or an attack from an outside force.

The possibility of an internal cause such as an explosion of parts near the rear bottom of the vessel where the explosion ripped a hole appears to be very low, according to an expert.

www.koreaherald.co.kr...

Originally posted by djvexd
This isn't an act of war as a state of war has existed for 50+ years between the North and South. This is just another in a long line of tragic skirmishes between the 2 navies.

Yes, and this war was mostly a proxy battle in the long struggle between communism and democracy. While I won't say that battle is completely over, I think this is likely to be a backyard argument between two brothers with an old grudge. If Kim Il Jong is dying, it's likely to be a final parting shot at the more prosperous south. A bitch fight, so to speak.

Who is there really to support the North; not the Soviet Union. China? Possibly but why would they threaten the economic prosperity that is leading them to be one of the richest nations on the planet, with lots of friendly American dollars pouring into their economy (check the labels on most of your clothes among other items LOL)

I think it could get out of control...but I don't think it is in anybody's real interest and without international support for the North, should die of its own lack of political momentum.

Let's all just hope for cooler judgments prevailing...

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[edit on 27-3-2010 by LwSiX]

reply to post by Daniyal

I think a war is needed

Daniyal, please proceed to the nearest recruiting station for training for urban combat in Iraq, so those veterans in Iraq can proceed to Korea in service for the South Korean defense forces.



[edit on 27-3-2010 by star in a jar]

If it was only an accident, there would be no cover up of information like the people in SK seems to say there is...

Also 48 hours since the event and the South Korean government didn't say it wasn't North Korea... they said they were investigating...

Yep seems to me the North Koreans had something to do with it.

[edit on 27-3-2010 by Vitchilo]

What's the bet the South Korean vessel sailed too close to the North Korean to do some listening or whatever, and the North Korean shoreline was mined especially to prevent such an incursion?

This would explain the South Korean reluctance to tell people exactly what happened.

Breaking News

Survivor suggests outside attack on ship.

A survivor from the sunken naval patrol ship Cheonan on Saturday raised the possibility of the 1,200-ton vessel sinking due to an attack from an outside force.

"There is no possibility whatsoever that the ship sank due to an internal explosion or a collision with a reef. I guarantee that," a navy lieutenant was quoted as saying by participants in a briefing session organized by the Navy's Second Fleet Command in Pyeongtaek, Gyeonggi Province -- the home port of the ill-fated ship.

news.asiaone.com...