South Korean navy ship sinks, North link played down

C'mon fellow tinfoilers, this is a conspiracy site. Did everyone miss:

"The ship fired a warning shot at an unidentified object,

Where is the UFO angle?

I mean "later suspected to be a flock of birds?" Now really.

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Yeah, didn't you realize that every sophisticated ship fires on flocks of birds quite frequently.

/endsarcasm

Like I said in my previous post. Even if it was the North, the best thing that can happen, is they simply dismiss it. Because there is ZERO, and I mean ZERO advantage for the South to fire back. So yeah, if that's truly the case, that's great, considering....

I'm not quite sure how accurate these numbers are.

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Originally posted by Agit8dChop
reply to post by disfugured

 

Nah I dont think its like that, there's been many different instances that could have easily been used as justification.

Such as ?

To invade another nation or at least declare an all out war you need more than hallow threats of WofMD. Remember, that card has been played and over used.

No need to create one when NK are quite content at doing it regularly

They sink SK warships regularly ?

Sure at the border there's tension and once in a while shots are fired from both sides. Nothing has been done regularly enough for there to be a legit excuse to make NK into a parking lot as some want to see happen. One thing for sure though, is the US does create false flags regularly so how can you excuse another Gulf of Tonkin incident as a possibility ?

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I must be number two lol , great movie
additional line for posterity.

Ok, someone needs to take one for the team and kill this guy. He's insane and a total douche. If this goes by and nothing happens to him I'm going to be very disappointed. He is vile and I can only hope we have someone not too far away from him on this planet at this very moment with a sniper and some orders. I know people will say "someone will just pop up in his place", that's fine, he needs to go.

I was stationed there.

KIMMY You'd better Consider this...


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No need to create one when NK are quite content at doing it regularly

They sink SK warships regularly ?

Sure at the border there's tension and once in a while shots are fired from both sides. Nothing has been done regularly enough for there to be a legit excuse to make NK into a parking lot as some want to see happen. One thing for sure though, is the US does create false flags regularly so how can you excuse another Gulf of Tonkin incident as a possibility ?



No, not regularly, but still at war with each other, nonetheless. You can use the Gulf of Tonkin incident as a possibility. Either way, I don't think anything will come of this, because of how the media has covered it thus far. (flock of birds), (internal explosion on the vessel), etc. In other words, I'm certainly hoping that it was an internal problem.

Dec. 18, 1998 - South Korean navy sinks submersible North Korean spy vessel on east coast. A scuba diver from the North is found dead.

June 1999 - At least 17 and as many as 80 North Korean sailors killed in naval firefight over Northern Limit Line (NLL), a west coast, Yellow Sea border contested by the North. One of the North's vessels was sunk, others damaged.
Clash followed nine days of incursions by the North into South Korean waters.

June 29, 2002 - A clash between South and North Korean naval vessels in Yellow Sea sinks one South Korean frigate and kills six South Korean sailors and an estimated 13 North Koreans.

July 17, 2003 - South Korea says its troops returned machinegun fire a minute after the North shot at an observation post in the Demilitarised Zone (DMZ) buffer between the states.

May 26, 2006 - Two North Korean soldiers enter DMZ and cross into South Korea. They return after South fires warning shots.

July 11, 2008 - South Korean tourist, a 53-year-old housewife, shot dead by North Korean soldier at the Mount Kumgang resort in the North, which is run by companies in the South.

Nov. 10, 2009 - Two Koreas have brief naval fight just south of the NLL that causes damage to vessels on both sides.

Jan. 27, 2010 - Two Koreas exchange artillery fire near the NLL sea border.

March 26, 2010 - South Korean navy ship sinks near disputed Yellow Sea maritime border off the west coast

www.msnbc.msn.com...

Originally posted by Yissachar1
S n F....

Just seen this on Sky News..... Apparently it was a North Korean torpedo...

Perhaps Kimmy is starting to make good on his threats?

I pray not....

North Korea don't scare me. Give them south Korea it is there land anyways

Originally posted by VintageEnvy
Ok, someone needs to take one for the team and kill this guy. He's insane and a total douche. If this goes by and nothing happens to him I'm going to be very disappointed. He is vile and I can only hope we have someone not too far away from him on this planet at this very moment with a sniper and some orders. I know people will say "someone will just pop up in his place", that's fine, he needs to go.

I completely agree with you on Kim. He's out of his mind. But I'd be willing to bet that nothing will happen, as I'm sure that he has a freaking red button that's attached to his hip, that reads, "Nuke SK", and that is why I believe it's being covered up.

But who am I to judge of the consequences of N. Korea, if they actually were responsible. I think at this point, it's going to be completely dismissed.

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Yeah, didn't you realize that every sophisticated ship fires on flocks of birds quite frequently.

In a paranoid state, I can imagine a ship firing on a cloud, but with its smaller guns, not cruise missiles or nuclear warheads.

"Oh my god they've been hit! OMG they're sinking! OMG those birds!"

*machine gun fire* RAT TAT TAT TAT

Yeah, the whole bird thing seems fishy. I mean really, A ships hull which is UNDERWATER takes damage and the ship sinks, so another ship fire at "birds?"

I'm pretty sure the birds weren't out on some underwater sabotage mission.

Nothing's going to happen. It never does.

The North Koreans are just a bunch of skinny attention whores jumping around with fire crackers and flags trying to get some attention.

Originally posted by SmittyPuffs
Nothing's going to happen. It never does.

The North Koreans are just a bunch of skinny attention whores jumping around with fire crackers and flags trying to get some attention.

Which itself is annoying but not problematic to a point. But, the fact that they could have actually destroyed this ship is past the line of getting attention. This was stupid on his part and I hope he ends up regretting it. Hopefully the family members of the men who died will be seen and noise will be made so this will not just die down and go away. He can't get away with this.

Originally posted by VintageEnvy

Originally posted by SmittyPuffs
Nothing's going to happen. It never does.

The North Koreans are just a bunch of skinny attention whores jumping around with fire crackers and flags trying to get some attention.

Which itself is annoying but not problematic to a point. But, the fact that they could have actually destroyed this ship is past the line of getting attention. This was stupid on his part and I hope he ends up regretting it. Hopefully the family members of the men who died will be seen and noise will be made so this will not just die down and go away. He can't get away with this.

Stupid? Yes. Surprised? Absolutely not. Nothing will happen. If it does, it will be behind closed doors. With N. Korea already threatening nukes, retaliation, the US trying to put am incredible amount of pressure on them to disarm, alomg witht S. Korean putting a lot of pressure on them to disarm, is probably and most likely, for a lack of better terms, pisssing him off.

I'm thinking that they'll (Super-powers, and elite) will try to muzzle this to prevent a catastrophe in taking place, due to a ship that was sunk, with a country that they're technicaly still at war with.

Something more devastating is going to have to happen, IMO, for things to escalate; which in turn if you have read the latest news, they didn't fire at a ship, but a bunch of birds.

So, if I was the Captain of said ship (great technology, great weaponry and radar, sonar, etc), you would think that they had somewhat of an advantage of knowing, first off, what hit them, but most importantly, not knowing or having the ability to decipher bird vs. ship?

It's just too bizaare for me to sit back and see the media downplaying this. If i'm wrong, great.



Why in the world would they be firing at targeting birds?

Originally posted by john124
reply to post by overextended1

 

Yeah, didn't you realize that every sophisticated ship fires on flocks of birds quite frequently.

In a paranoid state, I can imagine a ship firing on a cloud, but with its smaller guns, not cruise missiles or nuclear warheads.

hopefully the flock of birds were not placed in an animal protecting program....if so the sinking of the ZK vessel was justice....

serious...the vessel went probery under by there own stupidety....violatating borders...ore accident aboard the ship itself...
ofcourse the ZK/US gov's will take the best advances of the issue....

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Likely if it was a NK Torpedo or Mine we may not know till a NK warship tries to leave one of NK ports a couple months from now.

North Korea has a history of using mines.
www.history.navy.mil...
what they don't have is a Minesweep capable of clearing US mines.

If i was in charge i would claim it looked like a accident even after i knew NK did it.

Then i would use a stealth bomber to plant a number of special mines just inside a north Korean port.

The US has computer fused mines that can pick up the sound signature of any ship programed into the fuse and only go off under these ships.
They can program the sound signature of all the north Korean war ships in one harbor and as they try to leave the mines will pick them off one at a time.
Then North Korean would lose face if they blamed the south because they could not protect ships INSIDE there own harbors.

Then there is the captor mine system.
www.fas.org...
and the Mk67 Submarine-Launched Mobile Mine
The Mk67 Submarine-Launched Mobile Mine (SLMM) Designed around a 1960s-era Mk37

A few captor mines would have NK looking for a number of nonexistent SK subs in the waters as it picked off the north Korean ships one by one.

There are some things that really don't add up here.

This was a state of the art ship that should have been able to detect immediate threats.

Flocks of birds do not fly in the dark 1.8 km from shore that I know of. Perhaps an old outdated mine? Perhaps a deliberate attack from anyone interested to create a conflict, reason to deal with N Korea? Sabotage? Ship malfunction? Maybe on ship ordinance exploded by error? We may never really know.

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Thanks Slayer! I love a good cadance.

"Second line marches to the beat! I think my post might take some heat!" ; )

In pictures: Hunt for South Korea sinking survivors

Here's a slideshow that tells the story so far. Notice that image 6 shows the ship upside down in the fairly shallow water where it sank.

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S Korean Navy ship sinks possibly caused by mine explosion: YTN

Friday's Navy ship sinking might be caused by mine explosion, South Korean media YTN quoted presidential sources as saying on Saturday.

General of the South Korean Navy Lee Ki-shik said later Friday that the 1,200-ton warship Cheonan went down after the unexplained explosion ripped a hole in the ship's bottom.

Officials have narrowed down the possibilities of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK)'s involvement in the incident, local media earlier reported.

Chinese source favouring the mine possibility.