I think I know whats killing the bees

Originally posted by wiseone11

a new study just out points to pesticide use as the most likely culprit. The researchers discovered that over 800 samples of wax and bee pollen contained 121 different types of pesticides within the samples. Bee experts worry that hive exposure to multiple pesticides--coupled with things like viruses, weather and poor nutrition--is the likely cause

Read more: www.sfgate.com...


complete article here

My vote is for that -- and the building in of pesticides into GM foods.

Cell Phone frequencies are NOT the ones Bees use when "dancing" -- that's within the hive to instruct other bees where to go. Bees navigation however, might be effected. Bees use earth's Magnetic field -- but that's with visual mapping, polarized solar light from the sun with an internal clock to know when plants have the most nectar, and seeing UV light -- which most flowers reflect in patterns to guide bees in.

There might be problems that "crop up" with all these various radio waves we are using - like Cancer, but I figure it's about very specific frequencies that would reduce absorption of specific nutrients by our cells -- only an issue for animals that live longer than 50 years -- like people.

Originally posted by metalholic
reply to post by LucidDreamer85

 

actually if there were no bees extinction would be innevitable!

Indeed sir.

Everyone is alway's talking about the government's doing a "slow kill" on us. Well I can't imagine a more slow and agonizing death for human beings to go through.

I don't believe this has happend on purpose. I think it was purely by accident. However, that still does not change the fact that it has happend. Regardless of who, why or what is the reason, the results are still the same.

This is not good.

~ Zeus

Sorry I've just caught up on the thread and have been looking for the images I took of the mould. Unfortunately I can't find them (although most prob deleted for being out of focus)..

The beauty of nature...
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Although this one actually had a bald patch behind the head..
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Originally posted by Muckster
I can understand how you came to this theory... it’s a good one... However, i do not think believe that it is caused by these networks...

As Horza explained, the bee population in Oz is fine and they have the same networks as the rest of the word.

Plus I’ve seen Bee keepers move there Bees out into the middle of the desert to protect them and they have still died...

Personally i think it is a combination of things...

Pesticides
Varroa mites
Nosema
Climate Change (before i get flamed i didn’t say man made climate change so all you people with flamethrowers can now back down)
Reduction of biodiversity due to intense farming techniques


Having said that i cannot completely rule out your theory... it could definitely be one of the contributing factors!!

I agree. I think it might be a combination of things killing them off. I wonder if has anyone considered the fact that Monsanto would love to see pollinators die off? This would finalize the seed monopoly which they are close to achieving now. Its also worth noting, along this line of thinking, that Monsanto is also the prime manufacturer of pesticides and herbicides in the world. Think about it, with no bee's to germinate plants, they will have a completely open market to force their genetically engineered seeds onto us. Remember, genetically engineered plants don't need pollinating.

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Both bats and honey bees began to disappear in 06/07. I don’t know what changes took place that fall – spring. Some bat colonies have had a 100% kill rate.
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This year, bees were transported from FL to CA and 30% of them died even using the best transportation methods. Why? No one can answer that question. The CA almond industry is worth $2 billion. There are fewer colonies now and almond growers are willing to pay $200/honey bee colony. That’s nearly double – there are fewer bees available to do the job. Bees released in the almond orchards only get those proteins, vitamins, minerals, and lipids – not the good variety they would get foraging.
Info from Jerry Hayes, Assistant Chief, Bureau of Plant and Apiary Inspection, Division of Plant Industry, Florida Department of Agriculture, Gainesville, Florida
and www.earthfiles.com...
www.fas.org...
The monetary value of honey bees as commercial pollinators in the United States is estimated at about $15-$20 billion annually.
Jerry Hayes, Assistant Chief, Bureau of Plant and Apiary Inspection, Division of Plant Industry, Florida Department of Agriculture, Gainesville, Florida
USDA projects that 40% of fruits and vegetables will be imported to the U. S. by 2012.

To UKWO1Phot
I think it is normal for honey bees to be bald.


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Here's a link I just found (originally from unexplained-mysteries.com)
This article is right on the nose with what most of us are thinking on ATS regardingthe dissapearance of honey bees.

(NaturalNews) A combination of toxic chemicals and pathogens are probably to blame for colony collapse disorder in honeybees, according to a study conducted by researchers at Washington State University.

Here is the link: www.naturalnews.com...

Just saw this, supporting some of what others have said etc. For the thread consideration/discussions.

Bees in more trouble than ever after bad winter: news.yahoo.com...

I have always suspected the mobile towers ,my life as been house bond while suffering with illness , i am a sensitive c spirit to .The towers went up in my area then it started. i buzz all day long which starts to diminish as the working day ends, night time is the only time i feel well enough to walk about and ican concentrate a bit ,then the next morning arrives6 to 7 am and it starts over.

I got a mobile one time but as soon as i spent the money air time ,i took the battery out and never used again, i wont let my family have one a mobile phone or visitors have them switched on indoors.

Those poor BEES and poor animals because of humanity.
ALL posting hear probably has one a phone wifi .dont you know you are helping to destroy everything with living cells slowly. The science will always be disputed as quackery by companys with money to lose who pay to lobby at gov levels .
THIS WONT STOP untill two 3rds of the fish animals and humans are ill dead. watch for animals attacking humans ,.

You and thptb will not change we are as bad and deserving of wrath, hurry the harvest to save earth, i am not contributing to the destruction no more, i still use landlines and Ethernet cable, i got a wifi box from cable company but insisted on a older modem its a start.

its up to you all out there .
The police with the new towers are getting cancer from radios this is hushed up but the police union in the uk is fighting with science. we are doomed clever ways to depopulate are every which way ,just as god allows the demon type ptb which are oligarchs, iF they dont mind killing 3000 or millions in iraq vietnam. people need to wake up you know people kill people why can you not get it round your heads about gangster type politicians and crooked familys they have been doing this since beging of the axe. READ the priesthood of the isles torrent, This tec is going to allow the biggest evr way to control populations get to 40 and they dont want you about unless you can pay for it.wake up wake up



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We will expire in about 20-100 years after the bees. Not because we cannot live off what is left but because much of what they pollinate are all the cancer protection species of fruits, vegetables, plants and flowers. Cancer not poor diet will kill us all.

You can tell how connected people really are to the earth by their concern or lack of it over the bees.

Maybe you and I live here and those others who don't seem to give a damn, are just visiting this planet. Using it.

Maybe they have another home to go to when they finish wasting this one?


Just joking... but doesn't it seem that way?

Who can go on after brutalizing, stripping and killing their own mom?
None of us.

In a previous post I stated that Chem-trails spray Barium. The chemical is then ingested by bee's, animals, bugs, and humans.

The chemical over time begins to effect all the beings, but the most severe affected are the bee's.

As time goes on the chemical gets into the food and water of the bee's. The bee's then produce larva that are contaminated with barium chemicals from birth, then are fed barium filtered honey.

So as more time goes on, the bee's are eating and drinking contaminated resources, which then is input into their offspring over time.

The effect on the bee is, well i don't need to explain do I....

Maybe it is another chemical, but if you think about it, the chemical is coming from those planes.

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"Responding to frequencies" isn't a meaningful statement used in that way.

Radio is not sound, sound is not radio. You can't say "oh, look, a bee responds to sound in the 300 Hz range, look, a statement about a radio tower with the term MHz, the Hz appears both places, therefore they are the same"

I know it was at one time a popular CT but really, it was inaccurate a couple of years ago and still is.

Originally posted by Muckster

Personally i think it is a combination of things...

Pesticides
Varroa mites
Nosema
Climate Change (before i get flamed i didn’t say man made climate change so all you people with flamethrowers can now back down)
Reduction of biodiversity due to intense farming techniques

In the past it's generally been a combination of things like this that have decimated beehives. We used to have problems with hives dying off for no good reason back when I was a kid and we kept bees on the farm. You steamed out the hive and bleached it really well before recolonizing it, or the same thing'd happen again. Beeses get diseases.

Originally posted by SheaWolf
I believe genetically modified food crops have much to do with the bee problem. Plants with built in insecticides are not a good plan no matter how you look at it.

BT crops do not affect bees. That's more of a caterpillar thing. Bees don't have the same sort of digestive tract.

Originally posted by FORMe2p00p0n
In short.... I'm saying frequencies are attracting these bees to high frequency radio/dish towers (whatever there called 1g 2g 3g 4g gooble gabble for all i care).... there hanging out there and dieing... I think high radio frequencies are doing it.

Yet, high radio frequencies have been around since the WWII era, and bees haven't been affected by them in any obvious way. On the other hand, we got varroa in '88 and it got to the point that Dad just quit keeping bees.

Originally posted by Wintergreen
They are putting forward the theory that radiation given off by mobile phones and other hi-tech gadgets is a possible answer to one of the more bizarre mysteries ever to happen in the natural world - the abrupt disappearance of the bees that pollinate crops.

Kuhn's experiment was one of the worst setups I've ever seen. It's been disproved many times over, as well.

Originally posted by star in a jar
Whales depend on sonar frequencies to communicate and it disturbs them when ships transmit sonar frequencies as well, allegedly causing them to beach themselves.

If this is true, then wireless transmitters should be banned until it is made safe.

Thankfully, some of us understand that the term "frequency" is an attribute and not really a proper noun. If you don't say "frequency of what", you haven't really said anything. All the term frequency is, is a description of how often something happens per unit time. You can't say "frequencies are doing x" and have it mean anything at all.

In this case, you seem to be confusing sound and radio as well - they have no relation to each other in any way. Whale song = sound, wireless = radio. They're as alike as parakeets and cheese.

Originally posted by deadredIt is certainly possible that microwave radiation is also a culprit, but the depletion of the ozone layer could also be part of the picture. It would seem that the increase in ultraviolet would affect any animal, insect, or plant that lives outside. Chemtrails is likely part of this picture, as is ELF radiation, and who knows...maybe even HAARP. Thanks for reading my first post here. It seems like an interesting group. Rick

I'm not sure that the UV levels have been increasing - the ozone layer is no longer in much danger. ELF doesn't have squat to do with it either, because bees aren't really big enough to interact with it. Also, if HAARP, an HF station that doesn't direct anything at ground level and only has 3.6MW anyway, can kill bees, then any local HF station would be doing the same thing.

I apologize for not updating you all and leaving you hanging.. About a week after my initial post I had an accident and broke both my hands (right hand is really bad, left not as bad). I am finally able to use a keyboard (one key at a time) and mouse (very slowly). Not to mention my busy schedule seems to take 10 times longer to complete with almost no use of my hands.

Doc said that I will have more use in about 3 to 4 weeks... so till then, sorry for the inconvenience.

Originally posted by FORMe2p00p0n
I apologize for not updating you all and leaving you hanging.. About a week after my initial post I had an accident and broke both my hands (right hand is really bad, left not as bad).

Holy crap. I hate breaking bones in my hands, it hurts like blazes and takes forever to heal because I can't sit there and not do something with it broken or not. Breaking both of them reminds me of a time long ago when I was in the Army and someone got both hands crunched.

The platoon sgt was telling us why we didn't see the guy that morning, and concluded with "I guess he'll find out who his friends really are the first time he has to take a leak"

Hopefully you're married. Even then, it's got to be inconvenient. I think the last time I broke my hand it was the right one, and I had an external fixator for a while. Every time I shifted I would smack the fixator into the dashboard. It got old really fast.

Best wishes, and lots of pain meds.

I figured it was cell phones or just radio in general.

I totally agree with the Internet idea though. That explains why bees were still common in the '90s, when many people still did not have Internet and the people that did had very slow connections mostly in the phone lines.

Great thread.