I think I know whats killing the bees

OK I love the fact that we can bicker about it's GM, no it's pesticides, no it's high RF signals. The fact is, it's happening.... almost everywhere. I think RF is the biggest culprit, you think GMO. They both came about around the same time. The fact is Tech seems an underlaying problem.
Think you can help take out these factors, well good luck, you'll probably end up in jail. It's illegal to stop or manipulate RF, and I'm sure Mansanto doesn't want a crimp in there new self pollinating crop that there designing

Just because you may see a couple bees by your house doesn't mean they are not dieing around you in mass. The following is a list of articles relating to CCD in other countries (just a coule of many I'm finding)

Wiki mentions Belgium, France, Netherlands, Greece, Italy, Portugal, and Spain Switzerland, Germany, Northern Ireland, Canada, Australia, United Kingdom & United States.

This article mentions, South America, Asia Europe Croatia, Taiwan

Honeybee Shortage Worries Farmers In Japan

In any case I think Russia is the only place that doesn't have any negative reports (or at least translated into english).

Whether its pesticide (which have been around since 1800's), GMO foods (market introduce in the 1990's), or high frequency type radio waves (market introduced since 1980's). Cases of CCD type occurrences have been recorded since the 1970's.

It's definitely human interference related. most likely all of them

Let me ask you this can you visually see the difference between a final stage AIDS patient and a final stage Cancer patient. Two separate diseases one final result.

Anyways it took me the last 4 hours to compose this in between working, and i'm backing up so gotta catch up see ya soon

That's interesting, Op. A good find. Bill Maher's been suggesting this for a while on real time.

Something else this reminds me of is the Johnny Appleseed line from Joe Strummer and the Mescaleros, which goes... well, I'll just show you

If submarine sonar signals can confuse whales enough to drive them ashore, then why can't these frequencies kill the bees? It is plausible.

I have never clicked the "digg" thingie before, but I'm thinking about it on this one. Maybe someone would see it that could cause an investigation.

What do you guys think? Is this "diggable"?

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i would like to see it thoroughly investigated but thats mo

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After I posted, I went back and clicked on Digg. It requires you to sign up and join. Is anybody on here already a member that would consider digging this? It might shed some light on this issue, and if not, then what has it harmed?

I read the headline and thought I would read this then insert my opinion that it is cell towers doing this!!!!

I used to work as an electrician and we had a contract with Stratacom who builds these towers.

At one site the antennae array was really low to the ground, the sign on the fence surrounding the site said "WARNING RADIATION 45 min exposure limit. We looked at it and said "pfft my ass..." after 2 hours I looked at my co-worker and asked him if he felt funny? He did as did I!
We left the site for a few hours for lunch and felt better after about 45 min!

From then on we only worked at that one site for 45 min and left the area!

Don't remember seeing many bees there as was starting the first frosts of the year but if bees are attracted to these places that like you say then that is exactly whats killing them!

A serbian prophet named Mitar Tarabich accurately predicted WWI and WWII as well as the formation of the united nations, the use of oil and the invention of the television. He may have been talking about this bee diesease when he said:

"The whole world will be plagued by a strange disease and nobody will be able to find a cure; everybody will say, "I know, I know, because I am learned and smart," but nobody will know anything. People will think and think, but they will not be able to find the right cure, which will be with God's help, all around them and in themselves.

link

I think he is talking about a diesease in bees or some other animal because he said the whole world would be affected instead of everybody or everyone implying a human diesease. Anyway, probably completely wrong but all of the explanations everyone seemed to believe were right reminded me of this for some reason.

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Originally posted by munkey66
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probably because Australia has one of the worst connections around, you lose reception as soon as you leave the city.

Utter crap!!!
I live in the middle of nowhere and my reception is as good as anyone elses.
Our networks are the same "if not acctually better", then most other countries.

Found some of the links I was talking about:

entomology.ucdavis.edu...

Interesting site and has an hour long lecture too.

Noted University of California, Davis honey bee specialist Eric Mussen fingered a line-up of prime suspects at his “BSI: The Case of the Disappearing Bees” public lecture, sponsored by the UC Davis Department of Entomology.
Mussen identified malnutrition, parasitic mites, infectious microbes and insecticide contamination as among the possible culprits. It’s a complex issue, he said, but one thing is certain: “It seems unlikely that we will find a specific, new and different reason for why bees are dying.”

Colony collapse disorder (CCD), a phenomenon where bees mysteriously abandon their hives, is not a new occurrence, said Mussen, the Extension Apiculturist at UC Davis since 1976.

“Similar phenomena have been observed since 1869,” he said. “It persisted in 1963, 1964 and 1965 and was called Spring Dwindling, Fall Collapse and Autumn Collapse. Then in 1975, it was called Disappearing Disease.”

“But the disease wasn’t what was disappearing,” Mussen quipped. “The bees were.”

Massive bee die-off also occurred during the winter of 2004-05, but only those who read bee journals knew about it, Mussen told the crowd in the campus Activities Recreation Center. The latest die-off caught the attention of the national media last fall when a Pennsylvania beekeeper asked researchers at Pennsylvania State University to look at samples of his dying bees in Pennsylvania and Florida. “The local media picked up the story and the rest is history, including yours truly on the Lehrer Hour.”

Malnutrition may have helped wipe out 750K bee hives

www.tucsoncitizen.com...

Area researchers believe bee malnutrition contributes to a mysterious phenomenon that wiped out 30 percent of domestic honeybee hives.

"Something like poor nutrition will set up many things," said Gloria Degrandi-Hoffman, director of the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Carl Hayden Bee Research Center in Tucson. "Just like humans, if bees are not eating well they are likely to come down with illnesses and be less resistant to diseases and stresses."

Colony Collapse Disorder, or CCD, saw vast numbers of adult worker bees abandon their hives and die, leaving crops unpollinated.

Out of 2.5 million hives in the United States, about 750,000 were lost by last winter, said Jeff Pettis, research leader at USDA's Agricultural Research Service Bee Research Laboratory in Beltsville, Md.

"I think nutrition is one of the basic components of CCD," Degrandi-Hoffman said.

Bees are now tasked with pollinating specialized crops bereft of weeds and other plants offering a more diversified diet of pollens, she said. A third of all food consumed in the U.S. is connected to bee pollination, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Beekeepers are challenged with maintaining the health of hives working monoculture or single crop fields. "If we went out and ate one thing, all day long, we could not do that for long," she said.

Just a few links here.

I had to come back and post them just so people did not think I was crazy for talking about bee malnourishment.

Pred...

interesting. I live in NZ and I remember a few years ago (3-4yrs) noticing dead bees everywhere. I never researched it or looked to see it it was happening elsewhere. I had completely forgotten about it until i read your thread. I used to count all the dead bees on the way home.

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Geez that sounds disturbing. I live in a large city and unfortunately do not get to see much nature. Here when people see a bee they run like little girls and try to hide behind something.

Bees are wonderful and have a big part of our world in their little hands.

Pred...

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Around where i live in central Pennsylvania ive seen that a lot of people used to have traps where bugs like bees got attracted to(i dont know by what) and killed them.

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I think the main culprit here in NZ was likely the varroa mite. It was first found around 2000 in the North Island, and was found in the South Island in 2006. It has decimated bee population's here, so maybe this was the reason for the bees you saw.

Last I heard our bees were recovering, but I'm not entirely sure. I wonder if these mites are also having a similiar effect around the rest of the world. Although the phone network and other electromagnetic radiation sources may very well be having an effect too.

I live near a fairly major phone tower, so I could go and check it out some time. Would be good to see those photos photos though...
OP, sure you can't post at least a few?

Radio frequencies have no effect on Bee's.

The real culprit in this elaborate scheme is the chemical known as Barium.

Barium, is in the chem-trails/contrails that airplanes spray.

I noticed a chem-trail and its effects one day when i came home from grocery shopping, on a warm spring day, with no moisture in the atmosphere.

I have pictures also.

Anyways the Barium is getting into the water and onto flowers. The honey then gathered is made with barium which is fed to the young pupil bees. Hence creating Bees with genetic defects.

I think that theory above seems more plausible.

The radio frequencies have been tested already.

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Thanks for that info about the Varroa Mites! I had not heard of that before, that probably was what i was seeing, i havent seen many dead bees in awhile.

The articles I've reviewed this morning indicate much of the dying out has occurred in the last four years, and is due to a virus which is carried by mites. (Of course they always make statements with such authority as though they know, and often they don't or are only guessing)

I'm wondering about the frequencies, and perhaps someone else would know. If it were radio waves, why would they have to be in such close proximity to the source to be killed? This is in response to so many bee corpses around and near the towers.

If it's radio frequencies, then they could just drop dead anywhere, right? We live in a matrix of frequencies.

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Monsanto are killing the Bees. They put genes from toxic weeds in their plants so the bugs die when they eat their crops. The downside is that it kills the bees as well.

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No Einstein never said this-it is a myth, and if you can find the document that he wrote it in then the world awaits that proof!

And to further continue the topic-bees could be in danger because of ELF waves/radio waves.

But,,, I have interviewed many bee keepers on the subject and found that one of the most obvious and reasonable explanations is that:
Farmers use seeds that are pre-pollinated and these seeds are covered in a layer of chemicals so the seeds do not require pollination by any insect. Well the bees don't know this-they pick up the chemical pollen and head back to the hive to do their work and infect all the other bees. They then become disoriented (because they have been poisoned and fly off and die).
A few beekeepers agreed with this theory and had a lot of evidence to back it up.

I asked one woman if this happens at an organic farm and she said yes, because bees don't just stay inside of the fence-line they also go outside of the organic farm into other farm fields and pick-up the poisoned pollen also. Which makes perfect sense. They also said they that this just became an issue in the 90's after most farmers converted to genetically altered seeds (so we can eat more chemicals) I mean so our food is bigger faster.

Don't get me wrong I also believe that radio waves can distort some animals/insects behavior, just as the magnetic field lines can distort a birds flight rhythm. But all of these factors are killing them at a very fast rate, and when they are gone all the non-believers can say-I heard it on ATS first!

Call your local bee keeper (your state has a head bee keeper in their phone records). You get the same answer from the majority of them. I spoke with a couple of beekeepers who have studied the matter thoroughly checking for mites and other diseases, which all have cures but nothing is curing the enormous loss of honey bees. They all agree that we will not have honey bees soon especially after African bees invade more and more colonies.

But many many different insects pollinate; However no insect pollinates better than a Honey Bee. We will see a cost increase on Honey, Almonds, and other Honey Bee required foods.

The standard beekeeper now makes most of their earnings from shipping their Honey Bees to California for Almond farmers, and they only last a short time. One keeper told me they will send out 30,000 bees month after month because they simply disappear, no trace of them, no carcasses, no colony disease, nothing. Just one big mystery.

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tnx 4 posting u are on 2 something they are covering this up

Yeah I'm thinking about chemtrails.
I mean yeah frequencies could be the case but i guess that frequencies are quite normal. I just saw someone posted here that they had some grey stuff on their wings. Chemtrails?