Aliens HAVE visited earth - Finally... tangible evidence

I find it more than distasteful to exhibit humans with genetic aberrations as "aliens". However, one way to really prove something was extraterrestrial is if the DNA is so unusual it could not possibly have evolved on Earth. So, while I think this reeks of scam, the scientific approach described may be valid, i.e. IF the DNA contains NO genes common to ANY life form on Earth well it's probably not from Earth. On the other hand, if you believe in panspermia, where bacteria are happily hitching rides on meteorites to "seed" other planets, the DNA divergence may not be as great as if life evolved independently. Regardless, the study of a REAL ET's DNA would be most interesting and conclusive.

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G'day TrueTruth

That is true.....

More members need to do a little more homework.

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Maybe...maybe not

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G'day m0r1arty

You know.....

It's taken me a while, but I can see it now.....I really can.....

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Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by Nicolas Flamel
I find it more than distasteful to exhibit humans with genetic aberrations as "aliens". However, one way to really prove something was extraterrestrial is if the DNA is so unusual it could not possibly have evolved on Earth. So, while I think this reeks of scam, the scientific approach described may be valid, i.e. IF the DNA contains NO genes common to ANY life form on Earth well it's probably not from Earth. On the other hand, if you believe in panspermia, where bacteria are happily hitching rides on meteorites to "seed" other planets, the DNA divergence may not be as great as if life evolved independently. Regardless, the study of a REAL ET's DNA would be most interesting and conclusive.

A very good point. Without real "alien" DNA on hand we might never know it if we saw it. If DNA is the foundation from which all life springs our neighbors DNA might be so close to Earthly DNA that it would be impossible to tell the difference. Additionally a race advanced enough to travel the stars is probably very adept at DNA manipulation and could mask their trail in ways our current tech could never hope to uncover.

Originally posted by Iamrealistic
this is not an alien...it is a human with a disease...tests a decade ago proved that the child had both Y and X chromosomes...X from mom and Y from dad (both human) case closed

Now I am convinced it is true. Another weak, half ass dismissal.from a troll has the opppsite effect.

David wilcock is right.

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Someone made a valid comment that the starchild's DNA was more like human DNA than anything EVER seen before and you call him a troll? I ask you, who is the real troll?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, is society so dumbed down that proof is not required?

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Well you and Paddy from the area around the Vancouver museum should have fun then.

Check out Gene at the Bar just off Granville next to the youth hostelling for further proof of your correctness.

-m0r

Originally posted by Jocko Flocko
Before you start shouting "Aliens HAVE visited earth - Finally... tangible evidence" do have a link to a scientific paper that has been written about this subject? Can you provide a link to the copies of a verified DNA analysis that was done on the specimen? The entire declaration "Aliens HAVE visited earth - Finally... tangible evidence" is simply riding on the copy and pasting of something that has been written by one person with absolutely ZERO scientific evidence to support it. This is not to say such evidence does not exist, but the current information you have provided means nothing and proves nothing, IMHO.

What other evidence do you propose then if this doesn't prove anything?

I hope you do not speak of the evidence where people whom obtain it go mysteriously missing and end up suicided the next day or in some freak accident.

Personly I think people who come up with conspiracys, weird beleifs and notions, and outright fantasy have become so blinkered by the mundane details of their daily lives that they desperately seek something out of the ordinary to beleive in, to inspire them, to feed their imaginations.
They dont see the forest because the trees are in the way.
This is very sad and so very apparent on this website and others like it.
My message to them is that mystery, awe and inspiration need not be sought 'out there', nor in fantasy.
Outside your window in the real world, is all the mystery, awe and inspiration you could wish for, if only you go out see for yourself.

Truth and fact is often stranger, more awesome and mysterious, than fiction or fantasy. The real world is waiting for you and offers more than enough mystery for a lifetime. Go out and live your lives!

esciencenews.com...

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G'day QuantumDeath

What is your view on the medical info I've been posting & discussing in this thread?

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Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by InfaRedMan

Originally posted by Telos
I don't understand why alien and ufo threads are becoming like that recently? From a conspiracy and ufo board, ATS is starting to look more like Skeptic Magazine.

I disagree. Denying Ignorance does not equate to believing any old crap you read on the internet because you wish it were true.

Critical thinking is only unpopular with those who are incapable of it.

IRM

Well I didn't ask for your opinion and i could care less if you agree or disagree. My concern was in general due to the fact that this board has been inundated with a lot of negative posting in the last months. Being an old member (before this nick had another one since 2002) I've seen, read and dealt with a lot of subjects and members but never before with this kind of attitude. So I'm sorry to stop your enthusiasm in shaping the "real truth" but you misunderstood my reply.

Originally posted by QuantumDeath


What other evidence do you propose then if this doesn't prove anything?

I hope you do not speak of the evidence where people whom obtain it go mysteriously missing and end up suicided the next day or in some freak accident.

Well, producing the actual genetic research on the skull, alongside BLAST results from the NCBI database would be a good start. It would certainly allow those of us who do this on a regular basis to poke through the code base for base and find inconsistencies and homologous sequences as a means of determining human versus non-human identity.

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When you hear hoofbeats...think horses...not zebras.

It's possible Lloyd Pye doesn't believe in horses...

Originally posted by SquirrelNutz

Please don't be one of those people that points to the last part, and goes, "See, he's asking for money - another conspiracy exposed"

Dumb.

haaha yeah man i wasn't trying to be buzz kill, it's not listed in my profile but this is one of my favorite subjects, i'm totally psyched with any improvement on the declassification of old old old ancient times and 'aliens' and how to two relate, this skull might or might not be genuin cross between two species, human and nonearthly, but it wouldn't change my opinion either way about the historical records of summer, babylon, egypt, etc etc all indicating that humans were created by a race not of this planet, it is very dull that he would add that tid bit in the end though, if i were him legit or not i would really downplay the fact that although the research is fundamentally important to our species and enlightenment, he's broke as *****************************!

what i mean is, we have lots of civilizations dedicated to the beleif that we were created by 'the annunaki' and races beyond earth, and now we find a non human skull? it makes sense that the trial period of race mixing would yeild negative results, and rare deformities etc etc

Originally posted by indigothefish
what i mean is, we have lots of civilizations dedicated to the beleif that we were created by 'the annunaki' and races beyond earth, and now we find a non human skull? it makes sense that the trial period of race mixing would yeild negative results, and rare deformities etc etc

If there was any evidence that we were created by 'other races,' it'd be a fair point to make. As there's no evidence that supports the idea of outside intervention...it's reasonable to attribute the skull to a rare human abnormality.

Brachycephaly?

Crainiosynotosis?

The skull has been shown to have a human mother and father...Pye's unwilling to accept that evidence. In his view, scientists are ignorant unless they support his ideas. His hypothesis is the tail wagging the dog

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
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G'day QuantumDeath

What is your view on the medical info I've been posting & discussing in this thread?

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

I'm afraid "Hutchinson Gilford Progeria Syndrome" isn't something that most people would want to be looking for. Saying it is that, or could be, couldn't get one Erased.

It's just mind blowing that almost everything that has been thrown up on the table as evidence, for those whom seek evidence, are knocked back down by most of the same people who requested evidence. What's it going to take for people to realize, "Hey, there is absolutely no logical explanation to be placed upon this object, incident, picture, or video."

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EXAMPLE

If a massive plasma beam was shot at the white house today, from an unknown origin in space, it would be classified as a mystery for the next 60 years. Say if you had a video of it, some would cry CGI. Say if you had a picture of this happening, some would cry Photoshop. Witnesses would be called crazy lunatics because they speak the truth of something coming from the sky and obliterating an entire building. Last, but not least, the skeptics would cry "Natural Gas Leak", "Cosmic Phenomenon", or "Russian Weapons Satellite". They would rather say its all wrapped in a Myth and its all in your head.

Guess who is left laughing while observing us?

Originally posted by QuantumDeath


I'm afraid "Hutchinson Gilford Progeria Syndrome" isn't something that most people would want to be looking for. Saying it is that, or could be, couldn't get one Erased.

It's just mind blowing that almost everything that has been thrown up on the table as evidence, for those whom seek evidence, are knocked back down by most of the same people who requested evidence. What's it going to take for people to realize, "Hey, there is absolutely no logical explanation to be placed upon this object, incident, picture, or video."

I've yet to see any evidence presented. We have a few photographs, all of which support the skull being entirely human. We also have "promises" of presenting genetic data in the future, with no access being given to the data itself for peer review.

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Proves the old adage "A fool and his money is soon parted.". If he did indeed have a break through a taste of proof beyond grandiose claims of revelations to come would have been supplied with his obvious attempt to get more money.

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Sorry but just because there are people in existance that as a knee jerk response immediately denounce any so called extraordinary claim does NOT mean that those that accept as a knee jerk response so called "extraordinary" claim are right. It's simple logic.

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