UN is Coming for your Guns

Once again. Try to take my guns and you'll have to catch the ammo first. I am a free man! I will not give them up. PERIOD!!! Some things ARE worth dying for. Just keep in mind that a lot of us have better training than the people who will come to our doors have.

Ive seena few posts I want to reply to, so I do it in just one:

First - What other countries fail to realize is the Citizens of the United States hold dual citizenship. We are citizens of the respective States / Commonwealths we live in, and we are also citizens of the United States of America as a country.

If our Federal Government were to fall (and for what its worth we get to overthrow our government every 2-4 years), we still have the State Governments, then County Governments, Municipial Governments. I think, contrary to what the U.N. wants, we will do just fine.

Second - It does not matter what agreements are signed. Our constitution, for us, is Supreme Law of our land, and not some treaty the U.N. or other countries want. In my personal opinion, I think the one thing other countries always underestimate about the U.S. -
Yes, we fight all the time with each other. Democrats hate republicans, who hate the Constitutioanlists, who hate libertarians etcetcetc.. In the end though, we kindly put aside our differences to defend what we have, whether it is an external threat or internal one.

Third - their are triggers in place in our constitution that allow for the people to change our form of Government when it fails to represent the will of the people, whether by vote or other. Since the 1860's we have chosen the vote.

Fourth and final - To all those who want to know what our obsession is with guns I leave with this -

An armed population are called citizens....................................
................An unarmed population are called subjects.


...And again, as a Police Officer I would never comply with a law that requires me to confiscate a firearm. I am not worried about the people who have legally purchased a weapon. I am worried about criminals who could care less what laws are in place. And to those who want to argue the difference between a law abiding citizen and a criminal, and how its easy to go from one to another - Its not a valid argument when arguing to take the guns away. ONce they are taken, the criminals will still have them, because they are just that.

The argument can be made with knives, rifles etc... If Britain, Canda, and Austrailia gun control laws work so well, then why are your Police Officers armed? If there are no guns, why do they need them?

[edit on 15-3-2010 by Xcathdra]

What is also so absurd about this idea is that the United States has veto power in the Security Council. Which means simply, we cannot be bullied or threatened by the UN in any way shape or form. The UN cannot impose any sanctions on the United States. Our charter membership and permanent place in the UN Security Council means that we will never have to be threatened by the UN.

The UN is not coming for your guns. This is fear mongering to the dumbest level imaginable. Anyone who believes this garbage has seriously lost a lot of credibility in my book.

The simple facts are:

We have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms. This is protected under the 2nd Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Gun sales are booming in the United States.

www.cbsnews.com...

Obama has given up on reinstating the assault weapons ban.

en.wikipedia.org...

However on April 16, 2009, President Obama stated that he will not push for the reinstatement of the Assault Weapons Ban in the United States even though he still believes that it "made sense." Obama has proposed instead to ratify an inter-American treaty known as CIFTA (Inter-American Convention Against the Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials.) to curb international small arms trafficking. The treaty makes the unauthorized manufacture and exporting of firearms illegal and calls for nations in this hemisphere to establish a process for information-sharing among different countries' law enforcement divisions to stop the smuggling of arms, to adopt strict licensing requirements, and to make firearms easier to trace.[19]

So Obama isn't going to take your guns away.

Many states now have concealed carry laws. legalizing concealed firearms.

Threads like this only are made to promote FEAR. The OPs of these threads only do so to scare you. But that is their intent. To scare you. Which does what? Makes you want to go out and stock up on firearms.

The UN will not ever be able to force you to give up your guns. It's just not going to happen. Obama is not going to take away your guns. It's just not going to happen. So please, calm down, unload the shotgun. No one is coming for your guns.

I agree with most of the other patriots here. as for myself, i bought some (legal) assault rifles not too long ago just because i know when push comes to shove, i will proudly defend the constitution and those around me. Its ironic, they could classify me as a terrorist for believing so strongly in the constitution.

Trust me when i say i know how to use em. I got out of the military and the only thing that could fill the empty void was an AR-15. I have that thing tricked out beyond belief.

Just want to add, those of you so hell bent on stating that if push comes to shove blah blah blah guns blazing yadda yadda yadda.

GROW UP!

If you are that insecure and can't bother to reason or read, you might be too immature to hold a firearm. Some of the posts I have read lead me to seriously question some posters ability to not shoot themselves in the foot.


[edit on 3/15/2010 by whatukno]

Originally posted by whatukno
What is also so absurd about this idea is that the United States has veto power in the Security Council. Which means simply, we cannot be bullied or threatened by the UN in any way shape or form. The UN cannot impose any sanctions on the United States. Our charter membership and permanent place in the UN Security Council means that we will never have to be threatened by the UN.

The UN is not coming for your guns. This is fear mongering to the dumbest level imaginable. Anyone who believes this garbage has seriously lost a lot of credibility in my book.

The simple facts are:

We have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms. This is protected under the 2nd Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Gun sales are booming in the United States.

www.cbsnews.com...

Obama has given up on reinstating the assault weapons ban.

en.wikipedia.org...

However on April 16, 2009, President Obama stated that he will not push for the reinstatement of the Assault Weapons Ban in the United States even though he still believes that it "made sense." Obama has proposed instead to ratify an inter-American treaty known as CIFTA (Inter-American Convention Against the Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials.) to curb international small arms trafficking. The treaty makes the unauthorized manufacture and exporting of firearms illegal and calls for nations in this hemisphere to establish a process for information-sharing among different countries' law enforcement divisions to stop the smuggling of arms, to adopt strict licensing requirements, and to make firearms easier to trace.[19]

So Obama isn't going to take your guns away.

Many states now have concealed carry laws. legalizing concealed firearms.

Threads like this only are made to promote FEAR. The OPs of these threads only do so to scare you. But that is their intent. To scare you. Which does what? Makes you want to go out and stock up on firearms.

The UN will not ever be able to force you to give up your guns. It's just not going to happen. Obama is not going to take away your guns. It's just not going to happen. So please, calm down, unload the shotgun. No one is coming for your guns.

The one clarion voice that breaks through all the debate to end the argument.. nicely done.

Oh, come on guys, no one would do anything. Nobody would raise a barrel, nobody did when guns were confiscated without receipt right after Hurricane Katrina. Nobody raised a barrel when states outlawed scary looking guns, tracer rounds, etc.

Even if the enemy list were short and clear, none of the hundreds of thousands of us pro-constitution folk would consider going after them.

I started a recent thread asking if anyone would strike back, and nobody would. The possible loss of their families and 'stuff' prevented them from acting.

Would you strike back if your freedoms were taken?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

All the 'I would pay them in lead' posts are an outlet of the second stage of death; denial, anger, negotiation, acceptance. The death of Liberty.

reply to post by Dbriefed

All the 'I would pay them in lead' posts are an outlet of the second stage of death; denial, anger, negotiation, acceptance. The death of Liberty.

Seeing as how no one is coming for your guns, you probably don't have to worry about the people having to pay them in lead posters.

Please this website has got to stop promoting FEAR.

I think this is hilarous. The idea that anyone in America would accept U.N. rule over an American constitutional ammendment is insane!

But....

The majority of gun owners aren't smart enough to see that this is someone yanking their chain. That this could never possibly happen. They are easily fooled.

Result? Pure entertainment!

True in Finland allready - there is no way you can get a new licence to buy weapon... That business is out, and now they are making ways to collect away weapons allready sold.

International treaty - coincidense - yeah right.

reply to post by Dbriefed


so what your saying is that because there are a bunch of angry Americans stating how they feel, that it means

"denial, anger, negotiation, acceptance. The death of Liberty. "

how do you figure? what would you think if nothing was said? And i know for a fact its not all talk. I have had this conversation before with many of my military buddies asking if they might do the same as me. All of them felt just as strongly as i do, and I can assure you that "IF" anything were to happen, many Americans, including myself, would without a doubt take a stand.

reply to post by scubagravy


If this happens ANY time soon, but I do not think that it will.
TPTB do not want a riot. They want chaos, but they want controlled chaos.

IMHO, stuff like this is staged so that TPTB can get a feel for where their propaganda stands. This is a rouge in my opinion.

I definitely think that the only thing standing in between the world and the NWO is the 2nd amendment, but so much of the information that is put out is fear mongering.

This will not happen to my generation IMHO, but the generation that are babies now.

Dear Americans,

please don't give your guns away! the people of the rest of the world depend on you!

best regards,

Citizen of a small country

reply to post by Sean48


2nd Amendment
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

They can have my gun(s) after they pry them from my cold dead hands!

This amendment was designed to protect the "American" (not Australia) people from just the type of politicians and law makers who are trying to take this right (gun ownership) away!

Some in Washington fear the people having guns, and they should, that is what it was created for. This law is what keeps us free - free from a corrupt government looking to dismantle the United States and strip us of our rights and freedoms. It seems more and more like it is our own politicians who hate our liberty and freedoms - not Osama or al_Qaeda.

Why is that?!

If no one has any intention of ever taking weapons away from the American people, then why continually draft legislation to make it increasingly difficult to own them? Why do anti-gun groups get positive media airtime while pro-gun groups get ridiculed and demonized? It is not the posters on ATS who are fearmongering, it is our Government. Both Feinstein and Holder have said they intend to go after them when the time is right. Cass Sunstein has stated that he will not be surprised when the 2nd Amendment is no more in the next 3 years. Who is instilling the fear here?

[edit on 15-3-2010 by mrbarber]

reply to post by arizonascott

They can have my gun(s) after they pry them from my cold dead hands!

Get over yourself. No one is going to take your guns away.

Take a minute to actually figure out reality. No one want's to take your guns away. Give the patriot crap a rest, seriously. You just look like a fool.

No one wants your guns, no one is gong to take your guns, unload the freaking shotgun, give it a damn rest before you shoot yourself by accident.

reply to post by mrbarber


Ok point out the legislation they have CURRENTLY in congress that is supposed to take your guns away.

BE INFORMED! Don't be a patsy to fear and stupidity.

As long as the US constitution continues to contain the following bit of text that so called treaty is basically toilet paper:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

I don't quote this lightly or in some rabble-rousing fashion, but as the supreme law of the land that it is. Unless the Bill of Rights is amended then this treaty holds NO weight and to agree to it without making the appropriate changes should be viewed by sovereign citizens as an outright act of treason.

Originally posted by jkm1864

You are canadian and I bet You don't know # about us southerners...

The south would rise again if this happened and I assure You their would be plenty of men to feed the meat grinder.

You must be used to those panzies up around new york because they just rolled over and took it up the poop chute.

The south is treated like its full of total dumb #s and the people in the north and the west always seem to remind us of it when ever they get the chance....

I assure You people are getting pissed and this will be the LAST STRAW to many a person down here...

They won't take our guns they will just keep taxing more and more until it becomes a hastle to have a gun because its to expensive.

Ok, obviously they don't have spell check in the South. And you haven't taken the time to read much, if anything of my previous posts in this thread.
Last map I saw, New Orleans was in the south. As I had explained earlier, what I saw on you tube, etc...were amateur videos of Americans taking guns from old ladies, families basically other Americans.

Know what I didn't see? Not one of you southerners stood up for your neighbor, not one fired a shot. So here on the inter web you and the rest of the Internet tough guys can tell me all about "the stand", but the reality is when or if it happens your guns will be taken and like the aftermath of Katrina, nobody is going to do a damn thing.

..Ex

Sending the UN to try to take guns from Americans?

That would accomplish nothing more than the UN being shortly disarmed by a finally awakened American people.