Atheism is Scientifically Impossible

Yeah added it to my favourites very informative, makes total sense. My person opinion is that there is something after death, because life makes no sense without purpose. That being said, I still stick to what I originally said, that I honestly have no idea what life after death is. None of us know.

reply to post by Maddogkull

Yeah added it to my favourites very informative, makes total sense. My person opinion is that there is something after death, because life makes no sense without purpose. That being said, I still stick to what I originally said, that I honestly have no idea what life after death is. None of us know.

Agreed. yet there are things you can know without seeing it.

I call it, The Great mystery. Of which we someday all will solve.

Originally posted by Smack
reply to post by uk alienhunter

 

You didn't read it, did you?

Yes i had already gone thru it before!!! But had a refresher too!!

Anyways my point is just what godel is all about... If u follow the fundamental point then u will see tha when u choose to draw the circle around god then what lies outside the circle. The logic has to apply to everything and anything..

reply to post by Maddogkull

To all atheists you wrong. To all Christians you’re wrong. I got news for both of you. Your both wrong

This comment made me laugh. If christian's are wrong, therefore their god doesn't exist, and how can anyone be wrong by not having those christian beliefs, if those beliefs are wrong. LOL. Unless you can prove another religion's god to exist, otherwise still LOL!

We can be an athiest of any religion simply by not believing in that religion's god.

[edit on 14-3-2010 by john124]

Originally posted by bwinwright
Atheism is scientifically impossible

There is no other option.

YOU AND I ARE DIVINE BEINGS. This is now scientific fact.

Scientific Fact?

Like Global Warming?
Like the old scientific fact that the earth was flat?

"Facts" change, as our understanding changes.

In response to your post I will have to disagree, it is scientifically possible to be an athiest. In fact, scientifically, I could be a follower of Hanuman the great monkey god.

I am a Christian who used to be an atheist, so up to a point I can see both angles. I agree with some of the posters that neither viewpoint is absolutely provable. In my case, the decision to become an atheist, and the decision to switch back, was a moral choice, both times. If my memory serves me right, logical arm-twisting doesn't work.

From a Christian angle, is it perhaps a mistake to aim at "proof"? The whole point about faith is that it is trust in the absence of absolute certainty. If it were possible to prove absolutely that God was there and that atheism was wrong, would that not make faith redundant?

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Yeah I always use to be the class clown back in the day

kk I used the wrong words for that hehe. I meant they both are wrong, if they truly believe what they do, when there isn’t evidence for both sides. Like some atheists think they are so right, when in reality they honestly know nothing of the universe. There are so many mysteries it is just mind boggling to think you know about an afterlife, of course of one that would most likely be immaterial. Same goes for Christians. How can you be so sure on your faith, from a book that’s been changed over and over again for the past 2000 years? It was also made by man, so why put your faith in a book made by man 2000 years ago. The truth is, we do not know nothing of an afterlife.

reply to post by Maddogkull


Life has no purpose? There is only one purpose, procreate. Nothing more, nothing less.

I just cannot imagine what the OP's intent was in making this thread. Did you really think that this was the way to sway anybody to belief? Or were you thinking that you could just handle YHWH's business for Him? Have you posted one thing that would sway or convince ANYONE that you have something so good and wonderful that they might want to check it out and find the truth? Why don't those that insist on using YHWH's name and identity think of the consequences of what they do BEFORE they do it?

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I would reckon that only a few scientists really think that the complexity of DNA requires a creator. They might find the DNA complex and incredible and muse about the chemical processes that brought it into existence but I don't think many of them believe it was magically conjured by some spooky skyman. Even the ones that believe in a God probably don't think that God used magic to bring about life.

Also, Evolution is about biodiversity, it is a theory to explain why there are so many different species and why many of those species are quite similar. It makes sense for us to be related to apes by Evolution, they look and behave a lot like us and are genetically similar however it does not make sense for apes to be like us if life was created all at once by God. Evolution is not the same as the origin of the first life on Earth, which is abiogenesis.

Atheism is not a scientific theory and there are plenty of Evolutionary scientists who believe in God and plenty of Christians who believe in Evolution the two ideas are not opposing.

Do a little research on Evolution, it is a scientific fact supported by mountains of evidence while Intelligent Design has no science to back it up at all.

I've never heard any decent biologist say that DNA had to be created by a thinking god.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Atheism isn't the denial of ANY intelligence. It's the denial of a deity. As others have said, it's also the absence of a BELIEF. How can you prove a belief to be impossible?

Weird.

Exactly. Crazy talk. I love how religious people try to tell us athiests what we believe.

reply to post by jennybee35


Bait. That's all it could be. There are quite a few Atheists on ATS, and the OP just made a very feeble attempt to "debunk" atheism with a post full of unfactual facts.

What's worse, is that he hasn't replied to even defend his claims, and the thread is already three pages long.

And what's even worse yet??? The fact that people are blindly flagging and starring completely bogus threads.

reply to post by Mekanic


Yeah, well, I think it's pretty dang sad. I'm beginning to believe that this kind of thing is a conspiracy in itself! Maybe I'm spending too much time on ATS, but it seems the only people to ever start "religious" threads are mean and tiny-minded, or pretending to be "religious" to damage what little credibility there is left in claiming the name "Christian". I have a hard time believing that they think they are doing a good deed.

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I'm really getting to the point that I only visit ATS once every couple of days, where I used to spend an hour daily reading here. I tend to look at the top flagged and discussed topics first, but more and more it seems we get stuff like this. Topics getting flagged just for the sake of hitting the flag button, topics that are utter crap. I liked this forum for so long because of the research that went into each topic, each argument. Now it's a dumping ground for trolls who want nothing more than to get a thrill out of wasting other peoples' time.

reply to post by Mekanic


"Dumping ground" seems to be pretty accurate. The OP hasn't even bothered to rebut one thing that he stated, so there can only be one reason for this thread. I check ATS daily to see what's new, too, because it usually has the latest news on every subject from science to religion. I wasn't even going to bother with the "religious Conspiracies" forum and managed to get sucked in anyway. I guess I'm just shocked at how much misinformation and hatred is floating around here. Boggles the mind, really.

[edit on 3/14/10 by jennybee35]

Gday,

Originally posted by boaby_phet
your post is impossible and noncense, im not even going to read more than i already have - 1 paragraph and title.

ATHEISIM is, and i quote from wiki "The absence of belief that any deities exist." ,

So really how can a belief be scientificly impossible?!?!?

seriously, this is a really stupid topic that makes no logical sence!

Mate -
you got it completely wrong as well.

Yes -
atheism is an ABSENCE of belief - as your quote said.

But you then went on to call it a belief.
It is NOT a belief.
That's the whole point !


K.


[edit on 14-3-2010 by Kapyong]

[edit on 14-3-2010 by Kapyong]

Most Atheist believe there is no God. It can not be proven either way. Therefore it is a belief by definition.

I think most professed Atheists are in fact Agnostics, but the word has come to represent both through improper usage.

You simply can not say categorically that there is no God unless you have all knowledge of all that exists. Everyone here with all knowledge, speak up What are the winning Power Ball numbers for the next year?

reply to post by Kapyong


Absence of a belief is Agnosticism not Atheism. An Agnostic accepts the fact they do not know, and have no belief. An absence of belief in God does not mean the same thing as an absence of belief.

Originally posted by Phlegmi
reply to post by Maddogkull

 

Life has no purpose? There is only one purpose, procreate. Nothing more, nothing less.

By your logic, there is no purpose to your post, so why did you make it? So what you're saying is people who are infertile are worthless?