Grisly mystery after scores of starlings fall out of the sky and lie dying... in a SINGLE front gard

Hi All

Take a look at the book "the case for the UFO" by M K Jessup i think. Has some great theories for these kinda happenings.

Originally posted by daddymax
I have heard stories of this happening at places like White Sands, and 3 mile island...and other testing areas.

While I was in the ARMY, we had a particular surveillance RADAR/SINGAR that would drop birds out of the air. It is possible someone has one of these, or similar type of variable freq. type RADAR.

Of course I wouldn't rule out some kind of God's Touch being tested. It was at 1 location, and the birds in this locale were affected, but none outside of the yard.

It would be interesting to not only see a bird body that was affected, but also to check the viscosity of the birds blood, eyes, and joints.

Interesting. Wonder if it's the same thing that's causing the sudden acceleration problem.

When I saw the headline, my first thought was chemtrails.

Originally posted by Goathief

Why edit a previous post to insert an extra line of text and a photo? Bad form.

Is it?

Sorry sir mr etiquette sir... SNigger SNigger

If you want to use the photo as a basis of a claim, what about this one - why are there only 35 birds there when the owner claimed there were 100? Maybe they recovered and flew away or maybe she exaggerated her claim when asked, would that not fit as she's already been caught in a lie or untruth?

Ohhh so people who have just witnessed something they can't explain and is out of thier experience are supposed to be able to accurately estimate total numbers to within what a +- of 5 birds perhaps??

Don’t be so pompous, this is a house wife who's highlight of the day is more than likely watching Jeremy Kyle on daytime tv...

I bet if a shed load of birds fell at your feet it would feel like a hundred too...

Peace out,

Korg.


[edit on 10-3-2010 by Korg Trinity]

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dam skippy dude!

not only that, i thought a picture told a thousand words!

Like others, I think it may have either been that they flew into something that they did not see and just dropped where they were or (more likely) that they flew through a high energy beam that destroyed their lungs(blood from their beaks) and just stopped their hearts. The military could have mobile units they use.

Having said all that, the fact that they are all in a very tight area and they look as if they are in a line may mean thay they flew into something and broke their necks. The post mortem RSPB report in quotes below says that most had broken wings and shattered beaks seems to confirm that they may have flown at high speed into something stationary.

Th neighbour was the one who said that she saw them fall all at once, not the owner of the property.

Some of the comments below the article are interesting too, although I suspect that some of the people who commented there, also commented here.

Late October, 1998. Tacoma, Washington. About 300 starlings dropped out of the sky on this date. Neither poison nor disease was the cause. The birds all suffered crunched chests and blood clots in hearts and lungs. Since starlings fly in tight formations, some speculated they had smashed into the side of a large truck (?), or perhaps a wind gust had thrown them to earth violently. Cause was never concluded - but it has happened before

"Post mortems on the starlings carried out today proved inconclusive. They were all found to have physical injuries - with most suffering either broken wings or a shattered beak - but no underlying health problems or toxins which could explain their sudden deaths."

The same thing happened here in the States a few years back, hundreds of dead or dying birds found on one property. It turned out to be the owner, who had spread deadly bird feed laced with poison. They were prosecuted and found guilty of animal cruelty.

Is there any military sites near where the Starlings have dropped? During my time in the service, we found high power transmitters could do this. It's basically like putting them in a microwave. It's not very nice.

They smahed into a cloaked alien craft!!!

WOW!

No one blamed it on HAARP yet...

and still didn't.

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hahaha yup, thankfully we are in the uk and dont have a haarp!

although, the guy who replied before you is pointing that way with his "death ray " theory. LMAO

Originally posted by Korg Trinity
Sorry sir mr etiquette sir... SNigger SNigger

Apology accepted.

Ohhh so people who have just witnessed something they can't explain and is out of thier experience

Nobody witnessed anything actually happening, only the birds on the ground, broken and dead/dying. We have a 3rd hand story about a neighbour seeing it, yet they did not report anything themselves or come forward - my guess is that the homeowner and/or the neighbour have not been truthful.

are supposed to be able to accurately estimate total numbers to within what a +- of 5 birds perhaps??

Plus or minus five brings the total to 40 or 30 - you'd have to triple that to get the number of claimed bodies (100+).

Don’t be so pompous, this is a house wife who's highlight of the day is more than likely watching Jeremy Kyle on daytime tv...

Not only are you rude (and probably more accurately describing yourself as pompous), you fail at reading comprehension - the woman was returning from work and discovered them outside her house. If you're going to attack her, at least do it for valid reasons such as the inconsistency in her story.

Tell you what, I'll head on out there tomorrow with a camera and see what the crack is with this conservatory, you're welcome to claim an invisible UFO was the killer to your heart's content.



Oh and for the umpteenth time, there is no military base in the surrounding area - nor are any military exercises carried out.

[edit on 10-3-2010 by Goathief]

Originally posted by qmantoo
or (more likely) that they flew through a high energy beam that destroyed their lungs(blood from their beaks) and just stopped their hearts. The military could have mobile units they use.

Its not a well known fact, but the military do have several mobile Starling exteriminators left over from the Russian operations to defeat communism and a particular ruthless dictator, but the person in charge was dislexic and we just finshed up with these localised bird maiming devices instead.

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Thing is we don't need our own HAARP to be affected by someone else's HAARP -It has the ability to manipulate regions of the atmosphere "over the horizon" from the insallation itself,as I understand it.

I hope the RSPCA release their test results,although I have a feeling that they will shed little if any light on the event,unless some kind of poison was the culprit.

I just looked for any hazardous sites in (west)Somerset,and found that there are none-according to the UK Gov that is:

The Health and Safety Executive hold a public register with details of sites in the district storing hazardous substances. According to the information available there are no sites in West Somerset.

www.westsomersetonline.gov.uk...

Although this could be hogwash,maybe there is a secret installation in the area which deals with vius's/bio research-remember a few years back,the foot and mouth outbreak in the UK which was traced to a bio lab...The stuff actually leaked into the water table,and spread up and down the country.

Official reports blamed the previous outbreak on the Pirbright laboratory site, 10 miles away. The Pirbright facility, near Guildford, is shared by two occupants - the government's Institute for Animal Health (IAH) and Merial Animal Health.

news.bbc.co.uk...

So I googled away and sure enough check this baby out!!!

Grant will help research flu bug Researchers at the University of Bath have won a grant to help produce a drug that could stop flu and several other diseases from replicating in humans.
The £261,000 grant will provide new software and powerful computers to produce a designer drug blueprint.
The drug would work by being chemically very similar to part of the protective coating around cells in the throat that the flu virus first attacks. The flu bug would be "tricked" into attacking the drug instead of cells. The three-year project will be largely carried out by examining the behaviour of atoms of the influenza virus which attack cells, and atoms of the throat cells that are attacked.

news.bbc.co.uk...

Now they are talking about "computer model" research,but what if they are up to other types of research,BIRD flu type research for example...

Or are my ATS glands working overtime on that?

This is really interesting, I have never heard of anything like it. I agree that it must have happened at a rather low height, and I don´t really think they all flew into something.

As someone mentioned only the first ones would have flown into it, even if you consider something invisible like glass in midair (however it may have made it up there hehe).

I also don´t think it is poison, I think it is rather impossible to time it so precisely. They would have to eat the poison at the exact same moment, and despite small differences in body weight, age, etc the poison would then have to kick in at the same time.

If the "death beam´s" source would be a stationary thing like a radar or some kind of transmitter this should happen more often in that area, but this seems to be a rather unique event.

If you take all this into consideration there isn´t much left. Actually there is hardly anything left.

I vote for military testing new toys, I know it sounds unlikely but its the best I can come up with

[edit on 10-3-2010 by Nightaudit]

please...... no...HAARP !

i mean it (lol)!!

what you say on bird flu and testing makes sence.... imo it has to be something external that the flock had injested (via airbourne toxins or food)

a toxin, to me, makes most sence, but i am no expert... just the blood coming from their beaks and the fact they all seem to have came down at the same time/place ....

tbh, i know this is bad, but i think they have been poisoned, most likely deliberatly ... as it seems to have been very selective!

maybe as the days go past we will hear of more birds coming down in the same circumstance, if thats the case then it coudl maybe give us a better idea to theorize over!

Originally posted by boaby_phet

maybe as the days go past we will hear of more birds coming down in the same circumstance, if thats the case then it coudl maybe give us a better idea to theorize over!

The only problem with this is that it'd have to be a pretty fast working poison due to the fact the birds all expired at pretty much exactly the same time. Maybe a call to the RSPCA would enlighten us further...

Originally posted by Goathief

Originally posted by Korg Trinity
Sorry sir mr etiquette sir... SNigger SNigger

Apology accepted.

Hmmmm.... Me thinks you are missing something

Plus or minus five brings the total to 40 or 30 - you'd have to triple that to get the number of claimed bodies

Again you missed my point.... I was highlighting your assumption that people are able to look at something unknown to them and accurately estimate figures..

Not only are you rude (and probably more accurately describing yourself as pompous), you fail at reading comprehension - the woman was returning from work and discovered them outside her house. If you're going to attack her, at least do it for valid reasons such as the inconsistency in her story.

Pompous Definition --> puffed up with vanity; "a grandiloquent and boastful manner"; "overblown oratory"; "a pompous speech"; "pseudo-scientific ...
# characterized by pomp and ceremony and stately display....

Anyone out there think this describes me?? lol

I love the way people get so offended when someone stands up for themselves... you know what.. if you can't take it don't give it MmmKayy...

Also the actual wording of the article was...

Householder Julie Knight, 53, returned to her home in the quiet village of Coxley at 4.15pm to find the macabre scene, which has mystified experts.

Where does it state she was returning from work??

Tell you what, I'll head on out there tomorrow with a camera and see what the crack is with this conservatory, you're welcome to claim an invisible UFO was the killer to your heart's content.

A conservatory in the front garden?? although not entirely imposable do you think that is likely??

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Oh and for the umpteenth time, there is no military base in the surrounding area - nor are any military exercises carried out.

Since you are so hung up about accurate numbers how many is umpteen? 13 or 14 or maybe 18 or 19?? huh??

Seriously though, I can tell you exactly what will happen if you go there... you drive you park you start taking pics, you notice that there is um windows in the house and that like there is a door that people can enter or exit the property... you go ho hum get in your car and drive home.

peace out,

Korg.

Mmmmm Kaaayyy... ;~)

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What ever caused it, its a damn shame. It does seems odd that so many should fall to land in such a small area. As some have previously said they must have been flying low.
It would seem to me they hit something in the air that was stationary. So say the first bird hit it and as the flock caught up it hit the same point, there for all falling from the same place. Or its a poisoning of some sort...

Will be good to see what they coem up with.

Yeah,I am leaning away from HAARP,don't worry

The poison idea though,Why would someone want to target starlings..I maen you will never get them all right?

Although maybe the poison was targeted at something else,and the birds ate it. But like was mentioned,they would have all had to eat the same dose at the same time which does seem very unlikely indeed.

OK here goes another idea...This one could be a winner I think.Check out this company.their location,and what they manufacture:

Thales Underwater Systems (TUS), formerly known as Thomson Marconi Sonar, is an international defence manufacturer specialising in sonar systems for submarines, surface warships, and aircraft as well as communications masts and systems for submarines.
TUS is a subsidiary of Thales Naval, part of the Thales Group, and has sites in the United Kingdom, France, and Australia. TUS is made up of three subsidiary companies: TUS Ltd. in the UK, TUS SAS in France and TUS Pty. in Australia, but it operates as a single company with headquarters in southern France. TUS had annual sales of €400 million in 2006 and employed around 2,100 people.

TUS Ltd. has two main sites, Cheadle Heath in Stockport, Greater Manchester and Templecombe in Somerset. The company had a turnover of around £85 million with a total of 853 staff in 2006.

en.wikipedia.org...

We have all heard of the links between submarine radar systems and mass beachings of whales/dolphins...Could Thales have been testing such a system ABOVE ground for some reason?

Could that have somehow killed the birds?
If so,we will never find out-as massive defence contractors have a habit of covering up such events IMO.

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talking about conservatories... I'm be keen to understand how far a bird of around 100g in weight and flying at between 8 to 18 m per second could bounce off glass..

Originally posted by Korg Trinity
Pompous Definition --> puffed up with vanity; "a grandiloquent and boastful manner"; "overblown oratory"; "a pompous speech"; "pseudo-scientific ...
# characterized by pomp and ceremony and stately display....

Anyone out there think this describes me?? lol

Well as you asked, yes.

I also took a secret poll, 8/9 agree.

See here for evidence:

I love the way people get so offended when someone stands up for themselves... you know what.. if you can't take it don't give it MmmKayy...

I'm not offended in the slightest. Defend your invisible UFO claim, provide evidence for it please.

Also the actual wording of the article was...

Householder Julie Knight, 53, returned to her home in the quiet village of Coxley at 4.15pm to find the macabre scene, which has mystified experts.

Where does it state she was returning from work??

That article clearly states she is a nurse, and is it not the only report of this on the internet or in local newspapers.

Why have you not retracted your false derogatory statement about her? You were quite happy to edit yourself in a vain attempt to save face (see pompous).

Seriously though, I can tell you exactly what will happen if you go there...

... we can actually see if there is a big pane(s) of newly erected glass there that the birds might have flown into.

Now that's all settled once and for all, would you like to provide supporting evidence for your invisible UFO instead of derailing the thread further?

Originally posted by thoughtsfull
reply to post by Korg Trinity

 

talking about conservatories... I'm be keen to understand how far a bird of around 100g in weight and flying at between 8 to 18 m per second could bounce off glass..

Exactly... Actually have had a few birds bounce off my the windows at work, one left a killer grease mark on the window.. a perfect grease shadow of the wings... the bird fell about maybe 4 or 5 feet from the window...

It certainly didn't bounce more than 6 feet away.

as you can see from the pictures the birds all died in line going from the pavement to the garden.

The RSPCA are saying they may have been flown to ground by a bird of prey... hmmmmm I think they are grasping at straws..

RSPCA spokesman Helen Cohen said the cause of the incident was 'still a mystery'. She said: 'We were informed that a lady had reported many dead or dying starlings on her property. This is obviously an extremely unusual occurrence.

'Tests were carried out on some of the birds and they were found to have physical injuries but we could find no evidence of any health issues which could explain what had happened.

'We know they did not strike power cables because they would have fallen directly beneath and there are none nearby. 'The only possible explanation we can think of is that something has caused the flock to suddenly change their direction of flight and caused them to hit the ground.

'It could have been that a bird of prey could have scared them into doing this, but it is still a mystery really.

All the best,

Korg.

The article also states that the woman's neighbor DID witness the birds falling from the sky-Maybe they should have interviewed her as well,considering she actually saw the event.
Oh well.