Moon Matrix by David Icke

Originally posted by templar knight
Not a David Icke fan, when it comes to the moon. there is something suspicious.

It has a synchronous orbit - 40% of the moon is never seen. For an object that has been created independently of the Earth, that seems more than just very, very, very good luck.

I have not seen any science to explain this - nor have I seen science ty ot explain this.

There are a number of theories that deal with the moon actually being created from Earth due to a collision of some kind. If that were true, that might help explain why it orbits us so perfectly.

There is also the fact that it is slowly moving away from Earth so that means it has not always been so perfect and will not always be so perfect. It just happens to be just right, right now.

www.wisegorilla.com...

well, someting weird obout the moon right now, i see the moon in the morning and all day through and all night.... i wake up in the middle of the night sometimes 3 am and the moon is in the west, however more to the middle of the sky
in the morning about 8 am it's in the east, but not on the horizon

EDIT: right now the moon is waxing gibbous. in the morning about 8am it was in the eastern side of the sky half way from the horizon and middle of the sky, and at 6pm same day it is still in the eastern side.... a little closer to the middle of the sky.... it indeed appears to not have moved that much
am i missing something? to see the moon in the sky for more than 72 hours straight both day and night??! doesn't it go round the earth?

isn't that weird, i never remember seeing the moon in the daylight for 3 straight days all day round?
i'm in eastern europe
i spend most time outdoors, today i've been outside all day so i noticed the moon

[edit on 25-3-2010 by raynemarina]

Originally posted by raynemarina
www.wisegorilla.com...
isn't that weird, i never remember seeing the moon in the daylight for 3 straight days all day round?
i'm in eastern europe

[edit on 25-3-2010 by raynemarina]

It all depends on the phase of the moon. When the moon is full, it is on the opposite side of the earth from the sun, and therefore rises around sunset (well, at least in the equatorial region). So when it is full, it is in the sky most of the night. On the other hand, when the moon is new, it is on the same side of the earth as the sun and therefore is in the sky most of the day. Does that clear up any of the mystery to you?

Whatever it may be, I think most of us agree that there is some sort of veil around us at this time. Whether it emanating from the Moon, who knows (I personally always thought the Moon was artificial. Too perfect in relation to a solar eclipse)

Kinda helps fit in the Chemtrail conundrum too! Maybe they're trying to snuff out this "unveiling" that I believe, we're current witnessing.

reply to post by bluestreak53


well, not really,
the moon seen in the sky doesn't appear to move that much
the moon is in it's phase waxing gibbous, it's in the sky day and night, it doesn't set like the sun does, doesn't dissapear, after 12 hours i can still see it, after 24 hours i can still see it.... 24 hours later still there, countinuously....
there's gonna be a full moon soon, i know that for sure.... but that doesn't explain why the moon doesn't appear to go round the earth and set like the sun does
i remember the moon used to rise east and set west, in the midnight i could see it through my window, that faces west
now it's in the sky 72 hours straight!!!

the sky is clear now, so it's pretty obvious to me

The book entitled Who Built the Moon? is a very good source material for counter checking some of Icke's claims.

The fact that the moon is the only planetary satellite that does not rotate should speak volumes to people. The fact that it is 40 times smaller than the earth and also 40 times closer to the sun is another coincidence that can not be ignored. It orbits us in such a perfect trajectory that solar/lunar equinoxes happen regularly here, this too is such a tell/tale coincidence. There are literally scores of strange statistics that scream artificiality about this body in our sky that features so prominently.

Icke is not the first to claim that the moon is an artificial platform. And I'm not going to blindly discard his research being that I know that something very strange is going on with it.

I'll read his new book and see what my inner voice says.

Jim Marrs talked about something similar to this Icke idea when I saw him speak at Brave New Books. It was an interesting concept and it did sort of make me look at the moon a little differently.

Is David Icke a Freemason ???

in a photo David Icke dressed in full Masonic Robes

ufo-planetx.blogspot.com...

reply to post by Jane_Rogers


That doesn't look like David Icke to me.

The fellow in the image is too short and his face is different than David Icke's.

If he was Icke, maybe he'd have the same face as Icke - but he doesn't because he isn't David Icke.

reply to post by Jane_Rogers


I do not believe so IMO.

Also see his response to these claims on his own site.
How The 'David Icke Is A Freemason' Photograph Was Faked

Back to his book, I am looking forward to see what it has to say.

I personally do not believe one f**king word, and yes I sweared, what we have been told about our moon, plants and sun by TPTB. So any new ideas/views are welcome.

It does not take a mathmatical expert to know that the odds of the moon being in our orbit and the distance it is and also the distrance it is from the sun, lets not forget the size of it as well, that somnething is really out there IMHO.

Also lets not forget that our moon does to even spin, but yet every other body orbiting a planet in our solar system does (i might be wrong there by 1 or 2 bodies please correct me if I am).

Also were is the best place to hide something?

It is there from the day we are born and more than likely will be the day when we move on.

Also IMHO you just have to look at the vail of secrecy regarding the man and unmanned missions to it? why?

We have more information, that WE being the general public, about the other planets and moons in our solar system that we do about our own moon.

Thank you.

Originally posted by TheDon

It does not take a mathmatical expert to know that the odds of the moon being in our orbit and the distance it is and also the distrance it is from the sun, lets not forget the size of it as well, that somnething is really out there IMHO.

The Moon was once much closer to the Earth and didn't look as it does today. We are simply fortunate enough to be alive during a time when it precisely covers the sun during eclipse. The Moon is also moving away from the Earth so it's not always going to look as it does today. There is nothing that is 'Out There'.

It will take you five minutes to verify these facts on the web.

Also lets not forget that our moon does to even spin

The Moon is tidally locked. No mystery!

IRM

reply to post by TheDon

Also lets not forget that our moon does to even spin....

Where do people come up with this misconception???

Dude, the Moon rotates on its axis. A little bit of searching will verify this fact.

IRM, there, told you that it is "tidally locked" (as are quite a few other natural satellites, orbiting other planets in our Solar System).

All that means is, as it rotates about its axis, it also takes about the same time to complete one orbit around the Earth (it is NOT an exact match, BTW...we see a bit more than 50% of the Moon, from vantage point of earth).

Look....everyone can figure out, for themselves, just by observing the Moon going through its phases.

Why do you think it HAS phases? Why can't people understand this basic, and simple concept?

(Personally, I blame the schools...not enough emphasis on actual teacing of sciences, any more...)

reply to post by InfaRedMan


Hello InferRedMan


Yes you are correct the moon is moving away from us, I believe a few centimeters a year.

Now were I dont agree with your statement is that the moon was once much closer to us. How do you know this? I know it was closer to us last year as I have access to data to verify that for myself, but anything over 100 years is just a theory is it not? given to use by a few people with letter after there name?

Also you say fortunate that we are living in a time that we see a full eclipse, got to call you on that, what are the odds? distance, size etc etc ? there some cool odds for sure.

Tidally locked is just another theory which personally I do not believe to be true.

Also that does not explain why only our moon does not spin, but every other body in our solar system does.

Bottom line as I mentioned I do not believe anything we have been told about were we live.

Something do not add up for my common sence, that is it really.

I also totally repect your point of view as well.

Hopefully one day we might all see the truth.

Thank you

reply to post by TheDon


Oh, just b ecause you don't "believe" what thousands of scientists and well-educated people understand and comprehend, then it "can't be right"?

Ya know, not every Solar eclipse is "total"...

Here:

Eclipses happen only during the new moon phase, when the moon moves to the side of Earth facing the sun. However, because the moon orbits Earth at a slight angle, the three bodies will only periodically line up on the same plane to create an eclipse.

Interestingly, total eclipses are only possible on Earth because of a fortuitous coincidence: The moon's diameter and distance from Earth make its relative size just big enough to cover the sun. If the moon were any smaller or farther away, we would only see partial eclipses. In fact, in a billion years or so, the moon will have drifted so far from Earth that solar eclipses will no longer occur.

Another type of solar eclipse, the annular eclipse, occurs when the moon's elliptical orbit carries it far enough from Earth that it becomes too small to totally block the sun. In this case, the eclipse appears as a blackened circle rimmed by sunlight.

science.nationalgeographic.com...

reply to post by TheDon

Tidally locked is just another theory which personally I do not believe to be true.

It isn't a "theory"! It is oberved, and observable!

Further reading for you (gosh, I wish they taught this in the shools!):

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by TheDon

 

Oh, just b ecause you don't "believe" what thousands of scientists and well-educated people understand and comprehend, then it "can't be right"?

I try yo make my believes my own and not thoughs of others.

I do understand but i don't agree with there theories, and lets not forget they are just that.


These same scientists you "believe" in are they same ones (well not the same but you know what I mean) that said 100's of years ago the earth was flat, also that the earth was the center of the univerise.

It took people to think outside of the box to prove otherwise.

Am I to be hanged and called a with for not agreeing with there points of view now ?

Thank you.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by TheDon

It isn't a "theory"! It is oberved, and observable!

Further reading for you (gosh, I wish they taught this in the shools!):

en.wikipedia.org...

I dont agree but I respect your believes and views.


Thank you

reply to post by TheDon

I try yo make my believes my own and not thoughs of others.

Well, that's all well and good, IF you truly feel that your "beliefs" are superior to those of far, far more learned and educated people.

Oh, and the comparison to earlier "beliefs" of the 'flat earth'?

That is a commonly repeated misconception. Most educated people, even in ancient times, knew the Earth was round. It was only the ignorant, illiterate uneducated MASSES of people who "believed" the 'flat earth' nonsense....because, to them it was "obvious" in their ignorance of science and reality.

These sorts of misconceptions were promoted by various religious leaders, as well....for purely manipulative reasons.

Uninformed/ill informed people are FAR, FAR easier to control and manipulate, hence the "churches" desired to keep people as stupid as possible.

Worked for many centuries....(still does, even today, but that's another topic altogether)...

reply to post by weedwhacker


Hello

I don't believe I said my beliefs are superior to those so far, I did say they were my own though :-)

Lets agree to disagree and move on as we are getting a tad bit of off topic here.

Have a good day Sir.

reply to post by TheDon


Topic?

Well, you see...that's the problem, because this ---

David Icke marks his 20th year of uncovering astounding secrets....

....His most staggering revelation is that the Earth and the collective human mind is manipulated from the Moon, which, he says, is not a ‘heavenly body’, but an artificial construct – a gigantic ‘spacecraft’ (probably a hollowed-out 'planetoid') – which is home to the extraterrestrial group that has been manipulating humanity for aeons.

He describes what he calls the ‘Moon Matrix’, a fake reality broadcast from the Moon which is decoded by the human body/mind in much the same way as portrayed in the Matrix movie trilogy. The Moon Matrix has ‘hacked’ into the human ‘body-computer’ system, he says, and it is feeding us a manipulated sense of self and the world 24/7.

--- is the topic, from page one. It is a load of rubbish.


Forgive me, but it is ignorant to believe that woo-woo garbage, as it has NO BASIS, whatsoever, in fact. It has no scientific foundation.

Again, the idea here at ATS is to deny ignorance...and 'believing' something that goes against every common scientific fact, up to AND INCLUDING repeating the fallacy that the Moon "does not rotate" (when it can be demonstrably observed to the contrary).

A 'belief', in the face of direct, repeatable and factual evidence, is not a 'belief' at all.

Not even close. It is an intentional rush into inanity --- for what purposes, and to what ends, I cannot fathom.

:shk: :shk:

If I had a :face/palm: image, it would be appropriate time to post it, right here....



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