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The Miami City Commission is set to consider a proposal next month that would prohibit unauthorized people and groups from feeding the homeless downtown, an ordinance proponents say will cut down on litter and ensure the safety of the food the homeless do eat.

To feed the Homeless , you would have to take 2 classes , on making sure the
food is safe , and how to clean up any mess.

This could be a BIG obstacle for people who made just say why bother , and if you
are caught feeding the Homeless without the courses , it's a warning for first
time "offenders" and a 300 dollar fine after that.

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[edit on 1-3-2010 by Sean48]

Well, they better open up a few more soup kitchens in the area if they want to pass that. Ultimately its not a bad idea so long as they have a contingency plan in place.

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why cant they jsut put the homeless in work camps?
I read all those threads about how we have these camps. those would be perfect places for the homeless. They would get a roof over their head and could go out and clean the streets during the day or work in a mine. I mean at least they would be doing something.

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Please don't rake offense to this, because I don't want to offend you at a personal level, but that idea is about the most idiotic thing I've ever heard suggested on this website. Work camps? I can see that being a slippery slope toward creating a slave underclass.

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ok...would YOU like to work in a mine or sweep the streets because the economy blows and you cannot find a job....your parents cannot find jobs, (because your statement, to me, makes you sound pretty dang young to me....) and hardly any of your friends can find jobs, (and the ones that have them are not getting raises and losing benefits and have FAMILIES to feed...) and so there you find yourself, (can I use the term jagoff without being in term violation?) HOMELESS.....would YOU think it were ok to go work in a mine when you spent THOUSANDS and even more than that on a "fancy" education.....and then cannot find a job because there are plenty of say....um...factory workers or even FIREMEN who didn't get paid over $100 thousand bucks a year and THEY get the 6 DOLLAR an HOUR job......(am I making my point here in all my fuming anger?)...

this kind of BS I read is what makes me think we are completely and TOTALLY SCREWED in this country (and probably WORLD!!!) ARGH!


WORK IN A MINE, indeed....JAGOFF.......

Originally posted by tigpoppa
reply to post by Sean48

 

why cant they jsut put the homeless in work camps?
I read all those threads about how we have these camps. those would be perfect places for the homeless. They would get a roof over their head and could go out and clean the streets during the day or work in a mine. I mean at least they would be doing something.

Maybe the homeless just cant concentrate on getting a job...perhaps they need...oh, I dont know, a concentration camp

heh...I assume btw that your post was just some light sarcasm.

The state should gather up and train all of the current homeless now in food storage, preparation, distribution, service and clean up. Then when the rest of the population loses their jobs they will be prepared to feed everyone.

It will be a monumental task feeding tens of millions of people so this plan makes perfect sense and should be funded and implemented immediately before the complete collapse of the economy.

What a horrible law, and what horrible lack of humanity to pass it.

These legislators actually take to themselves the right to tell you and I and everyone else in that area to spend our change the way they tell us to?

On the shops, but not the homeless...ok. No offense to small-business owners because they ARE the infrastructure, but really. These legislators are making that whole place look like greedy, heartless, well, you know.

The soup-kitchen comment was dead-on, IMHO.

I, and nearly everyone I have ever known, has been homeless, at some point, for some reason, at some time in their lives.

If it had continued to the point one of us had ended up on the street, we never would have made it back. So our attitude is "there but for the grace of God go I," and most will help anyone that asks.

So this is a blatant attempt to "rid" the urban areas of homeless folks. What are these helpless, starving, dirty, abandoned, introverted people going to do about it, after all...

I'm glad the majority of people don't support this, because more and more homeless people don't fit stereotypes, and could actually include us at some point. One just never knows.
But the mercy we show will be shown to us by the One who keeps track of such things, so let us continue to show charity and kindness on an individual basis. No one can truly regulate that, although they are trying.

Originally posted by Sean48

To feed the Homeless , you would have to take 2 classes , on making sure the
food is safe , and how to clean up any mess.

I have seen what the homeless eat sometimes out of bins and believe me, it sure doesn't look safe. I have also seen them humiliated at the hands of their fellow humans and treated like entertainment.

A little dignity goes a long way, but to have to take a course to give someone that is down on their luck is just plain stupid. What's next, a menu set out so you can only give away "healthy" foods?

Bah, the world has gone crazy.........

Many cities around the country have ordinances such as this implemented. It's a way of criminalizing charity as the government forces charity out of you
l through taxation(socialism).

social darwinism FTW. actually the homeless are more "real" than the I-Pod kiddies. I say, dont feed the young homeless and let the older ones prey on them. thats darwinism at its best and worst.!

At first this sounded ridiculous but as someone who has been one step from homelessness himself and has been friends with a few homeless I think it's not that bad of an idea. The food service industry requires licenses and certifications for proper food handling procedures and soup kitchens have, so far, gone unregulated.

I don't know how many of you have eaten in "soup kitchens" but they do often serve cooked meat, dairy and other things that would be regulated and inspected in a restaurant.

holy cow,

if we agree to put homeless in work camps then why not just kill them? if they are having there freedom taken away and forced to do things they don't want to do, then just blow them away right?

thats what work camps will get you. now days there is a lot more homeless than 10 years ago, but remember half of them choose to live that way. to force anything on them then freedom is gone. period.

something else to remember is that if SHTF those are the people that will survive.

Ah, the good ole days when the economy was better.

Back in 2006 the city of Los Angeles would arrest the homeless for being homeless and fine them up to $50 for panhandling.

Now there isn't enough jails in the entire state to hold California's homeless, nor enough in any budget to feed them.... Better go after those who are trying to help... Don't want to waste any opportunity to collect revenues.



See you all in the socialist feeding lines in the FEMA camps soon.

Send your tax deductible donations to the government, the only charity we can trust!

It all comes down to liability. If a homeless person gets sick they could possibly sue the provider of the food.

I know this sounds unbelievable but every homeless person is not of good character.

Having been a short term missionary for 20 years I have people ask me why we go to foreign countries with our medicine and medical care. They get ugly with me because They say I should be helping the people in my own country.

Well, show me a town park we can set up in with no running water and nothing but dirt to put our equipment on. Also I would have to be a registered pharmacist and a trained dental assistant to to prescribe antibiotics and clean dental instruments and fill syringes.

Also many medications can be used months after the use by date but could not be used in my country.

There will always be some unscrupulous low class attorney that will prey on the homeless and talk them into a lawsuit.

It is simply a case of greed on some points and fear of a lawsuit on the other hand.

I don't need to give you a link to look up...I am the link. I've been in the thick of such negotiations for years.

I have also seen tons of perfectly good medication shipped to and used in other countries.

All the third world authorities at airports and land boarders want is a cut of what you have. You would not believe how Levi jeans will get you across boarders.

Our so called, civilized and upright countries could help thousands of homeless if there were to be an agreement that no one could bring lawsuit. But that is not really constitutional is it?

Shame on us.









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Originally posted by tigpoppa
reply to post by Sean48

 

why cant they jsut put the homeless in work camps?
I read all those threads about how we have these camps. those would be perfect places for the homeless. They would get a roof over their head and could go out and clean the streets during the day or work in a mine. I mean at least they would be doing something.

ANd what about homeless people who ALREADY HAVE A JOB?

I have know many who have managed to do this. For instance, I used to work at a security company in the UK. Where a company simply wanted to maintain a legal presence to prevent squattors or where there were a team of guards, it became possible for the occasional guard to work his shift and then sleep in the back office in between and stay alive holding down a job until he could find a new place to live.

reply to post by Sean48


Sometime when I get a burger, I'll get two and give one away to a bum;
Usually with a few bucks so they can get a jug.

"There but for the Grace of God, go I"

If I see a hungry man and I want to feed him; the system can kiss my ____!!!

Originally posted by Walkswithfish
The state should gather up and train all of the current homeless now in food storage, preparation, distribution, service and clean up.

So if a corporate chief executive of , say, IBM or Bethlehem Steel is caught cheating by his wife and kicked out of his home as a prelude to being sued for divorce, you would take him away to a concentration camp to teach him how to make donuts and let the large corporation that he ran, collapse leaderless and put a few tens of thousands onto welfare?

You are absolutely nuts.

Originally posted by aristocrat2

Originally posted by Walkswithfish
The state should gather up and train all of the current homeless now in food storage, preparation, distribution, service and clean up.

So if a corporate chief executive of , say, IBM or Bethlehem Steel is caught cheating by his wife and kicked out of his home as a prelude to being sued for divorce, you would take him away to a concentration camp to teach him how to make donuts and let the large corporation that he ran, collapse leaderless and put a few tens of thousands onto welfare?

You are absolutely nuts.

You don't know much about the way corporations are run do you? CEOs can be replaced in a heart beat. A corp. won't collapse because of the lack of a CEO. There is a board of directors don't you know. CEOs die all the time and the business goes on as usual.

Who's nuts?

Topic........give the homeless money if you can afford to.

[edit on 1-3-2010 by whaaa]

Originally posted by whaaa
reply to post by Sean48

 

Sometime when I get a burger, I'll get two and give one away to a bum;

You are so narrow minded it is beyond belief.

HOMELESS does not equal BUM.

I personally actually deliberately ran a month of homelessness a few years ago.

I had my own company and it was a slow part of the year when I usually shutdown for a a few weeks anyway. My existing apartment's lease was expiring and I found this absolutely amazing deal on a penthouse for a ludicrous $250 per month... but there was a 29 day gap, so I stashed my belongings in my friends basement and lived quietly in my car for 29 days. Saved me a fortune, but I certainly never begged on the street and almost no-one knew.