The Gay Agenda -- You Can't Be Serious?

reply to post by Sigismundus

You wrote: “I am talking about Christ. Sounds as if you have never heard of him. You know the Savior. The one that preached love and peace? No?” and other such dribble which shows you are NOT conversant with this material at all in terms of original languages and the sitz im leben of your so-called founder.

Lol. Well then lets just see.

Actually, I was referring to the HISTORICAL ‘JEEEZZUZZZ’ you know, R. Yehoshua bar Yosef the Galilean Nazir who called the gentiles DOGS (remember Matt 15:20-35)?

Matthew 15:20-35 reads as follows.

15:20--These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

Why did you start with an ending paragraph of a set of paragraphs that was explaining the parable of the blind leading the blind?

15:21--Then Jesus went thence, and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon.
15:22--And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same cosasts, and cried unto him, sayaing, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
15:23--But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
15:24--But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost of sheep of the house of Israel.
15:25--Then came she and worshiped him, saying, Lord, help me.
15:26--But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
15:27--And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their master' table.
15:28--Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

Okay I think you were mainly focusing on Matthew 15:26

You see the gentiles did not believe in the Jewish God at that time, but God had a plan for them. Notice Matthew 15:24. He was sent here for gentiles also. As for calling us dogs he did not. He used a parable of why feed the dog if the children are starving. Which is to say If you do not believe in God what do you want me to do. And with that parable he proved that there were gentiles that did believe, thus proving he was not just sent for Israel but the whole world. So if you are upset that Christ referred to the one's that didn't believe as dogs I would say if the shoe fits... yeah that would upset you I guess.

I certainly don’t see anything in his original preaching about ‘peace’: ‘Do you imagine that the Bar Enasha (son of man) was sent to bring Peace upon the Land [of Yisro’el] ?

Lol. You have read nothing where Christ speaks of peace?! By that statement alone you have showed no effort to read the Bible and try to understand it. You will just disagree without the research. lol. Now that is pure genius. Lol. Sarcasm is fun.
He was sent to save the world. And he lived peacefully while he did it.

The Bar Enasha (‘son of man’) was NOT sent to BRING PEACE upon Eretz Yisro’el, but RATHER to BRING a SWORD UPON IT. To cause DIVISION and NOT HARMONY ! He came to set brother against brother and father against son and mother against daughter and son in law against father in law ! so much so, that a man’s ENEMIES be the people within his very own house !” Doesn’t sound TOO peaceful to me. Neither does ridiculous arming his deluded followers with Swords on the Hill --or did you imagine for one moment that the slave of the high priest’s ear was sliced clean through with a butter knife left over from the ‘last supper’? We’re talking armed Daviddic Seditionists during an Insurrection at the 100th Anniversary of the Roman Occupation here: Read this little gem in Luke 22: 35ff

Okay you are really not going to like what I say next.
Wait for it.....

‘When I sent you people out in pairs, without purse or sandals or walking sticks, did any of you lack for anything then?’ And they answewred, no Rabbi. And he said to them, ‘But now, he who has a purse of cash, let him take it with him, and likewise he who has a begging sack: and let he who has an outer garment, GO OUT IMMEIDATELY and SELL IT and BUY A SWORD with the cash.’

Wait for it..........Okay here it is.

Luke 22:35--And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said Nothing.
Luke 22:36--Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy ONE.
Luke 22:36--For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, AND HE WAS RECKONED AMONG THE TRANSGRESSORS: for the things concerning me have an end.

Now this is the good part. pay attention. Luke 22:38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are TWO swords. And he said unto them, It is ENOUGH.

Now here is my question to you. You really believe that Christ tried to kick off a revolution with just two swords?! lol. The prophecies spoke of it. He had to have one or two to fulfill it. lol. The prophecy was, AND HE WAS RECKONED AMONG THE TRANSGRESSORS. Dude read the bible like I said in the other post.

To answer any other questions you have I will say, IT IS NOT MEET TO TAKE THE CHILDREN'S BREAD, AND TO CAST IT TO DOGS. Told ya you wouldn't like it.

reply to post by In nothing we trust


What the

The mixing of races is forbidden? By whom? And why? What makes people with a few different genetic marker so wildly different?

My best friend is biracial, and I will thank you kindly to stop calling her an abomination, you expletiving expletive with your head up your expletive.

[edit on 27-2-2010 by Solasis]

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

I won't allow my children to marry outside thier race either.

I do beleive that everyone is equal and will not keep any in thier perceived place. All are treated equally.

My daughter was dating a Jewish man. HE was concerned.

She told him: "If I showed up at my mom's house with a 300 pound Jewish/Black/Asian/Mexican one eyed lesbian - my mom would say - Are You Happy!"

Someone's concept of equal is a bit skewed

reply to post by bakedbean


I'm sorry, but I find your thoughts on this matter very scary.

You do know there is a difference between pedophiles and homosexuals, yes?

They are two different creatures. I have had occasion to interview many pedophiles (in my profession), and they like children only. Once secondary sexual characteristics appear they are done.

The sex of the child does not matter. I've had many of them tell me it appeared as though they preferred boys, but only because boys were "easier" to get in their homes, etc. (I'll let you jump on my bed and fix your bike and order pizza -- type stuff) and the little girls have had it drilled in their heads by their parents to never enter a stranger's apartment.

But I do truely resent your making the statement that an entire population of people are "psychologically off", I can tell you, you are vastly mistaken. The pedophiles are sick, I'll give you that.

But the others? It's only freedom. Please don't be so fast to make judgements against an entire group of people you don't know.
Don't you see how wrong it is to do this?

[edit on 2/27/2010 by ladyinwaiting]

reply to post by Annee


I love the "one-eyed" detail It suggests some unsettling sexual practices though...

reply to post by schrodingers dog

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Oh my ... hold on, let me look out the window and see if the professor time slipped us back to 1790. Nope cars are out there, gay couples are loving each other, and an interracial man is still president. It looks like you have time slipped doc.

Awesome…

Man you can see A LOT from your window…

Although I’m not sure where cars fit into the equation lol and weren’t gays loving each other back in 1790!? and possible even further back than that.


PS - I’m not following you around lol



- JC


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[edit on 27-2-2010 by Joecroft]

Originally posted by Solasis
reply to post by Annee

 

I love the "one-eyed" detail

It suggests some unsettling sexual practices though...

LOL - yep daughter is very funny.

She works in Hollywood production - mostly music videos. She once almost had JLo escorted out because she thought she was a local that snuck on set.

Originally posted by schrodingers dog

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

I'm not wanting to see pictures of brown grandchildren hanging on my walls.
Call me Archie Bunker?

I think tragic would be a more apt nomenclature.
Now sir, will you kindly get off my internet!

Well thank you for you and your supporters for attacking me for my beliefs.

Let me ask you how does my belief harm you?

I have you listed as a friend schrodinger, so apparently we do agree on some stuff.


[edit on 27-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]

reply to post by In nothing we trust


It doesn't hurt any of us -- unless we're non-white (or whatever race you are) and in love with one of your children. Or unless we're your children, having our heads filled with your arbitrary nonsense.

But I guess none of us are those people, so we shouldn't care at all, huh?

Originally posted by Solasis
reply to post by In nothing we trust

 

It doesn't hurt any of us -- unless we're non-white (or whatever race you are) and in love with one of your children. Or unless we're your children, having our heads filled with your arbitrary nonsense.

But I guess none of us are those people, so we shouldn't care at all, huh?

I could say the same about you attempting to corrupt my children with your arbitrary nonsense now couldn't I?

Even though we appear to disagree, I still let my children mingle with you people though.


[edit on 27-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by Solasis
reply to post by In nothing we trust

 

It doesn't hurt any of us -- unless we're non-white (or whatever race you are) and in love with one of your children. Or unless we're your children, having our heads filled with your arbitrary nonsense.

But I guess none of us are those people, so we shouldn't care at all, huh?

I could say the same about you attempting to corrupt my children with your arbitrary nonsense now couldn't I?

Even though we appear to disagree, I still let my children mingle with you people though.

[edit on 27-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]

It amazes me that you list people as " You People" like we are any different from you.

Please, I am human, what are you?

I respect your choice to keep your children from "marrying" another race, although you might be surprised to find out that there's nothing your going to be able to do to keep your children from making their own choices in life.

They aren't going to forego happiness for your sake, trust me.

~Keeper

Originally posted by tothetenthpower

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by Solasis
reply to post by In nothing we trust

 

It doesn't hurt any of us -- unless we're non-white (or whatever race you are) and in love with one of your children. Or unless we're your children, having our heads filled with your arbitrary nonsense.

But I guess none of us are those people, so we shouldn't care at all, huh?

I could say the same about you attempting to corrupt my children with your arbitrary nonsense now couldn't I?

Even though we appear to disagree, I still let my children mingle with you people though.

[edit on 27-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]

It amazes me that you list people as " You People" like we are any different from you.

Please, I am human, what are you?

I respect your choice to keep your children from "marrying" another race, although you might be surprised to find out that there's nothing your going to be able to do to keep your children from making their own choices in life.

They aren't going to forego happiness for your sake, trust me.

~Keeper

You don't mind if I try to influence my children to follow what I believe is right do you?

I think they'll be happier staying within thier own race when it comes time to produce grandchildren.

With a father like me wouldn't you agree?

Now if you wouldn't mind answering the inter-racial gay question I posted.

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

So a question to all; what of inter-racial gay sex?

Do you approve or disapprove?

[edit on 27-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by tothetenthpower

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by Solasis
reply to post by In nothing we trust

 

It doesn't hurt any of us -- unless we're non-white (or whatever race you are) and in love with one of your children. Or unless we're your children, having our heads filled with your arbitrary nonsense.

But I guess none of us are those people, so we shouldn't care at all, huh?

I could say the same about you attempting to corrupt my children with your arbitrary nonsense now couldn't I?

Even though we appear to disagree, I still let my children mingle with you people though.

[edit on 27-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]

It amazes me that you list people as " You People" like we are any different from you.

Please, I am human, what are you?

I respect your choice to keep your children from "marrying" another race, although you might be surprised to find out that there's nothing your going to be able to do to keep your children from making their own choices in life.

They aren't going to forego happiness for your sake, trust me.

~Keeper

You don't mind if I try to influence my children to follow what I believe is right do you?

I think they'll be happier staying within thier own race when it comes time to produce grandchildren.

With a father like me wouldn't you agree?

Now if you wouldn't mind answering the inter-racial gay question I posted.

[edit on 27-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]

No, you can influence your children as much as you want, so long as you don't make them into racists. I'm not saying that you are, these are just your personnal beliefs after all.

I just hope you respect and accept their choices, if that's what makes them happy.

For me, I am white, and have 3 children that are of different races, so to answer you question, no I don't think they would be unappy in any situation they put themselves in.

My only concern is that they end up in a situation which is full of love and understanding, that provides room for personnal growth.

So long as they are happy, I will be.

Edit to add: My husband is Korean...two of our children are from Korea, another was born naturally with artificial insemination, and the other is adopted from Africa.

~Keeper

[edit on 2/27/2010 by tothetenthpower]

[edit on 2/27/2010 by tothetenthpower]

You did not include all of various ways in which humans express themselves sexually.
I am pro straight/ gay/bisexual/transsexual/transgendered/ and even Eunuch. Sexuality and Love's expression are unique to the individual/s...and are never alike. Many fool themselves that there is only heterosexuality or perversion. These obtuse thinkers are dangerous, because they are the one's pushing an agenda. It is these individuals who would easily take up the sword and lead a new inquisition against anyone not like them!

Which is a joke, because you never really know anyone 100%. So unless you're sitting there in their bedchambers watching and dictating every caress, kiss, touch, and what goes where...then you don't know what is going on behind closed doors!

And to tell you the truth...I don't want to know. Whatever works for you, and gets you off is your business, so long as it does not violate certain laws and standards of human civility. Case in point; child molestation! There are others as well.

If two men living next door to me are in love and committed to each other, are happy, and decent citizens...then I have no issue with them. It would apply to two women as well.

I have two gay male 1st cousins, one gay male 2nd cousin, a Lesbian sister in-law, and a lesbian cousin in-law. There's probably others who are closeted. I suspect as much...I am convinced gayness runs in families. There was an old elderly Uncle who died two years ago, and he was gay too.

I have worked with many gay individuals, of which I liked some of them, and others not so much. There were also hetero co-workers whom I thought were useless wastes of flesh...so it all rules itself out in the end.

I am sick of the tired-ass people who only worry about who is doing what to whom and with what...Geesh, get a life and grow up.

We have so many huge issues facing humanity in the next 5 to 10 years, I wish people would focus on the issues that are going impact us all. Like TEOTWAWKI...

Nuff' said...

Originally posted by Confused and Dazed!

I have two gay male 1st cousins, one gay male 2nd cousin, a Lesbian sister in-law, and a lesbian cousin in-law. There's probably others who are closeted. I suspect as much...I am convinced gayness runs in families. There was an old elderly Uncle who died two years ago, and he was gay too.

As far as I know we have no gay family members that I know of.

Coincidence or conspiracy?

Jesus Christ as a hetro-sexual, white, middle-aged male who pays taxes and believes in free speech, individual freedom, limited government, and gun ownership I am really on my own here.

I guess I'm the new abnormal minority.



[edit on 27-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by Confused and Dazed!

I have two gay male 1st cousins, one gay male 2nd cousin, a Lesbian sister in-law, and a lesbian cousin in-law. There's probably others who are closeted. I suspect as much...I am convinced gayness runs in families. There was an old elderly Uncle who died two years ago, and he was gay too.

As far as I know we have no gay family members that I know of.

Coincidence or conspiracy?

Jesus Christ as a hetro-sexual, white, middle-aged male who pays taxes and believes in free speech, individual freedom, limited government, and gun ownership I am really on my own here.

I guess I'm the new abnormal minority.

[edit on 27-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]

Other than the Hetero part we are in the same boat friend. People aren't as different as you make them out to be .

~Keeper

Originally posted by In nothing we trust


I guess I'm the new abnormal minority.

Well that's a plus.

Shows society is moving in the right direction.

reply to post by Annee


Ah, Anniee, you misunderstand me. What I am saying is a fact of psychology.. psychology 101 stuff.

Allow me to explain. There are various stages of development that every child goes through on their way to adulthood. These stages are not consciously on a child's mind.

The stage relevant to my argument is the stage involving the development of an understanding of gender constancy and gender roles, which is between the ages of 3-5 [this is an approximation, it is disputed among psychologists, but all agree that it occurs at a very young age].

There is a growing amount of scientific research that suggests gender identity develops at a very early age. Several studies show that infants can discriminate between male and female faces and associate faces and voices according to gender by the time they reach one year old. However, gender-labeling tasks, such as toy identification, do not occur until about age two. Gender identity and awareness of sex differences generally emerge in the first three to four years of a child's life. However, children begin to demonstrate a preference for their own sex starting at about age two.

During this stage, the child does not have a conscious understanding of what gender/sex is. They also have not fully developed what is called "gender constancy," which is the understanding that gender is fixed and not something that they can change. The psychologist Lawrence Kohlberg theorized that children develop this concept of gender constancy in stages between the ages of 2-7. This is a very important time in a normal child's development when they begin to subconsciously pay attention to adults of their same sex to imitate and construct their own ideals about what gender means, as in what it means to be a boy or a girl.

What I am getting at is that a child who is in middle childhood [ages 8-12] is and should be perfectly fine to understand homosexuality, because they've already developed a strong concept of gender identity by that time. But very young children will subconsciously pick up on gender cues as they see them, and seeing a bunch of men rubbing up on each other and prancing about in a gay pride parade, crossdressing on tv/movies, etc.. will no doubt influence their perceptions on gender identity.

Seriously, this is psychology fact. Why do you think they want to have children in public schooling at younger and younger ages? Why do you think the Chinese Cultural Revolution was focused on children? Because the elite know that the young child's mind is highly susceptible to influence! This is a fact, and I can't believe that you are arguing it. In case you misunderstand me, I am not saying that the Cultural Revolution or making younger children go to school is part of a plan to turn kids gay. I am just using them as an example to show that the elite are well aware of the susceptibility of a child's mind to influence.

The purpose of this post is to assert that it is scientifically established that very young children subconsciously observe and assimilate gender identity cues from adults of their same sex. As to whether or not there is a "gay agenda," it is best to refer back to AshleyD's post [yes]. I believe that it is perpetrated by higher-ups who are trying to reduce the rate of population growth on the planet, who around the same time [1970s] wrote many publications calling for reducing the population in subtle ways via the Population Council which was founded by John D. Rockefeller the 3rd [this ties into mercury in vaccines in relation to autism as well].

Originally posted by italkyoulisten
The purpose of this post is to assert that it is scientifically established that very young children subconsciously observe and assimilate gender identity cues from adults of their same sex. As to whether or not there is a "gay agenda," it is best to refer back to AshleyD's post [yes]. I believe that it is perpetrated by higher-ups who are trying to reduce the rate of population growth on the planet, who around the same time [1970s] wrote many publications calling for reducing the population in subtle ways via the Population Council which was founded by John D. Rockefeller the 3rd [this ties into mercury in vaccines in relation to autism as well].

Interesting theory.

So you think they are promoting gay sex as an alternative to hetro-sexual sex for the means of population control?

I suppose they would have to keep the people happy somehow. A sexually repressed population would be a threat and they would likly adapt better to same sex procreation before they would accept outright sterilization.

I admit the idea does have merit.

[edit on 27-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]

Originally posted by italkyoulisten
reply to post by Annee

 

Ah, Annee, you misunderstand me. What I am saying is a fact of psychology.. psychology 101 stuff.

Allow me to explain. There are various stages of development that every child goes through on their way to adulthood. These stages are not consciously on a child's mind.

I'm a mother of two grown daughters and a grandmother to a 16 year old grandson - 10 year old granddaughter - and a 2 year old grandson I have raised since birth because his dad died of Leukemia.

I was a single mother raising them myself. My grandson's dad chose drugs over him - - so I was instrumental in raising him too.

. . . . and you're gonna 'splain child development to me?

YOU are CHOOSING what you want to read into psychology.

Your fears are adult fears. They are your own fears you are using to twist by using child development.