Hugo Chavez demands Queen returns Falkland Islands to Argentina

Hugo Chavez called a 'coward' as insults fly at Latin American summit

So, not a united front at the summit then.

Chavez is a comedy politician! No-one, even swathes of his own electorate take him seriously. The man is a circus.

As for the Falklands, who gives a toss? Why are the Argies so bothered, even if there is oil around it's coast?

If the population want to remain British, let them. Argentina need to remember what happnened the last time they tried to flex their muscles.

Originally posted by BabyMD
Just a thought for those who suggested that the UK has friends who are very powerful with big guns- so do Argentina! And the big difference is that Argentina's mates aren't fighting 2 simultaneous wars on the other side of the world (3 if you add pakistan). I certainly don't want any fighting to come of this dispute- but if it did, i have to say I know which side my money would be on.

If it came to a question of Afghanistan and Iraq or the Falklands, the USA would find every Iraqi and Afghan base abandoned in under and hour.

Also- just because the majority of people on the island want to remain British is not good enough.

WOW! Are you one cheeky chunk of Sh*t!

Originally posted by mr-lizard
reply to post by Yissachar1

 

A race of warriors.

So true. One of our hobbies is fighting... But we're not daft either, we are tactical, improvisational and resourceful.

Not to mention dirty little buggers if the need be!

Originally posted by BabyMD
well my bets are on and I'll be laughing all the way to the bank! And FYI, the UK aren't going to nuke latin america over the Falklands- don't be so naive. Look, I seriously don't want to get into an argument about this. I just think it's extremely presumptous to think that the outcome of this is firmly fixed in the UK's favour.
The entire political landscape of south america has changed in the last 30 years. And an arrogant Britsh presumption of victory could get a lot of people killed. Don't forget that the UK are actually in contravention of UN rules by refusing to simply enter into talks about this issue.

www.un.org...

We refuse to talk about it because we have listerned to there arguemnet & case a thousand times over and they do not have a leg to stand on, its childesh and petty thats the way adults deal with childesh demmands, we ignor them or if they get out the pram & start throwing toys we smack them... it really is as simple as that my freind,

I really think your living in a dream world if you do not think the british millitary can not deal with them again even with a pissant alliance for back up. we are a lot stronger millitary wise today than back then, they on the other hand are not, no doubt will be sending some new toys to the party this time round "should we need to", its the perfect situation to battle test some newly perchessed US hardware!

Dont forget it was a tiny "Naval Task Force" with a handfull of infantry regiments & handfull of airforce units that deffeated the entire argentine army last time round, and pretty much on there own soil or back yard if you like, i mean the SAS dealt with there airforce alone LOL


There will be alot of people killed your right, but mainly argentine people just like before, but thats their own fault not ours we didnt start it remember we simply finished it... we would happily like to advert all this if they would just stand down and accept the faulklands are our territory.
the british army has been fighting in afghan for nearly 10yrs remember, thay are very battle harded and fighting in a modern warfair situation like this should it come down to it would suit it just fine "its wot we train for" it would be like lambs to the slaughter.

the worst thing the argy's could do is bring freinds to the party because our freinds can bang in the ring

Originally posted by soundgeeza
2 simple points ...

1) Until the Argentinians give their land back to the indigenous people we will NOT hand the Islands over ...

THE FALKLANDERS ARE THE FIRST NATION INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF THE FALKLANDS!

IDIOT!

Good thing that there was an Earthquake in Haiti then , and the US just happends to have 10.000 Marines close by....

Some gets all the luck ..

Originally posted by mr-lizard

Originally posted by Yissachar1
reply to post by mr-lizard

 

Gurdian reader huh???

Mannn... I thought you read the sun lol....

Oh well...

Guess i'm cheeky then!

The truth is held in the daily mail... Did you not know that

aaarg the Sun is blasphemy in my neck of the woods , a hideous rag of a paper.... not even fit for wiping my arse with.

As for the Mail... pfft.

Let me guess, you're a scouser... or there abouts?

Originally posted by aristocrat2

Originally posted by soundgeeza
2 simple points ...

1) Until the Argentinians give their land back to the indigenous people we will NOT hand the Islands over ...

THE FALKLANDERS ARE THE FIRST NATION INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF THE FALKLANDS!

IDIOT!

I won't rise to the Idiot remark ... Please just read my statement again and make sure that you understand what I was saying. We are in actual fact in complete agreement ...

Ohh and no offense taken!

I think you just mis-understood!

it fascinates me how one can twist a few words and make the battle for resources look like it`s about national pride and fellowship towards your falklander 'countrymen'.

please don`t get fooled, this woud be a war for a 5 cent drop on the price of a brent blend`s barrel.

and it appears to me that there are quite a few brits who would oblige their patriotic duties on behalf of her majesty`s graceful wishes. They`d swim down there, all the way praising her, to shoot some argies off.

heed, the only comradery present here is of the queen and BP (actually, ‘desire petroleum’ – funny company name, makes the argument a lot better; also, I said queen because it invokes images of nationalism, but I meant the government)

Originally posted by BabyMD
well my bets are on and I'll be laughing all the way to the bank! And FYI, the UK aren't going to nuke latin america over the Falklands- don't be so naive. Look, I seriously don't want to get into an argument about this. I just think it's extremely presumptous to think that the outcome of this is firmly fixed in the UK's favour.

WOW! Are you utterly ignorant of events.

In 1982, the Americans at first refused to assist the British. Thtacher informed them that if they did not achieve victory by land and sea she would take down Argentina, leveling every stone upon another if they had to.
As this was in the midst of the Cold War, the Americans pointed out that this would probably cause WW3 and end the world. Thatcher's reply was simple, well that's your choice then, are you going to help us or not? Reagan backed down and compreghensive intel about the Argentines began gushing out of the Pentagon.

If anything, the past 30 years now means that it is way more likely that the UK would carry out a full launch now as there is no risk whatsoever of a US and Russian exchange of missiles as a result of wiping out Argentina.

[edit on 23-2-2010 by aristocrat2]

it would be a nice gesture giving them back the faulklands...but in all fairness. they are currently under british control and there is precious oil there that we need...anyone with sense wouldnt just give that away.

and i wudnt worry about a fight its not like the UK would be alone either...and i know who i fancy my chances with an its not the argentines.

Originally posted by gusan
No wonder this world looks like it does.
All of you proud nationalists imperialists ARE the problem, the British Empire is based on the ignorans of their population.it is not your army or your corporations it is YOU! YOU are the fuel, you are the most important ingredience to all wars, and you must be kept in ignorance for them to exist.
Do you really think this is something to be proud of? That this is about YOUR wellbeing or your familly? Who is goint to man the ships, carry the guns and kill or die for this? The British Petroleum CEO?? The queens staff? You act and speak like inmature children discussing who has the strongest father...you will kill and die for this peoples cause. Like it had anything to do with you at all...

The British Empire is long gone... we gave it all back, didn't you hear?

This has nothing to do with Empire, and everything to do with protecting the wishes of people who wish to remain British, and the territory they live on. If those Islanders turned around tomorrow and said 'We wish to become Argentinian nationals' that's exactly what would happen... and I'm sure it would be with the blessings of everyone, including all the Brits who have posted in this thread.

When we invaded Iraq I was toitally against it... we had no business doing that

When we went into Afghanistan I was totally against it... we also had no business being there

Military should be for defense and ONLY for defense... the defense of one's country, territories and citizens.

If Argentina attacks or invades our territory, and by default our citizens, I shall expect - IN FACT DEMAND - that our government use ALL of it's military prevent this from takling place.

If Argentina where to be successful in invading the islands I will expect and demand that my government kick their arses out of there using ALL of it's military ...

I will support this totally because we will have every business being there.

The desire to protect ones's own has nothing to do with foolish pride. It is as natural as breathing or eating. It is the only legitimate reason for having a military in the first place - indeed, the only legitimate time to use your military.

Very few people in the UK backed war with iraq or war in Afghanistan. I think you will find that when it comes to defending British territiry things will be very different... as they should be.

Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by BabyMD

 

Actually, they are not. There is no indiginous population so it doesn't come under the "decolonisation" rules.

The Falklanders ARE the indigenous people, fool. It was English feet that first stepped our upon Falklands golden shores before any other humans.

Originally posted by walsbg22

Originally posted by aorAki

Originally posted by mr-lizard
reply to post by Yissachar1

 

A race of warriors.

So true. One of our hobbies is fighting... But we're not daft either, we are tactical, improvisational and resourceful.

Don't forget bigotted, racist, thieving, and inbred

I wish for the removal of the Union Jack from my country's flag. It will happen. You bustards took what you could from us - including our youth - and then turned your back on us; so yes, I will step on an Englishman's toes three times.

Thinking(please dont be american) Sry brit friends if he is. Im american but uk is buddies. Ur slightly racist.

Yeah, but we mean it in a loving way, really!

I wait for Argentina to hand much of its land back to the native population, which land was occupied and stolen during Spanish colonialisation. The Third World pit, that is South America, tends to ignore its occupation of native land.

Originally posted by aorAki


Aotearoa, Stu; The Land of the Long White Cloud.

If you are Maori, the indigenous people of New Zealand, why won't you support the indigenous people of the Falklands, the Falklanders?


[edit on 23-2-2010 by aristocrat2]

Originally posted by aristocrat2

Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by BabyMD

 

Actually, they are not. There is no indiginous population so it doesn't come under the "decolonisation" rules.

The Falklanders ARE the indigenous people, fool. It was English feet that first stepped our upon Falklands golden shores before any other humans.

Dude ... PLEASE read it properly ... this is the second time you've not read it properly ... that's essentially what the guy was saying ... !!!

Chavez aside.

This whole mess is all about a mega-corporation called Desire Petroleum drilling for oil in an area that Argentina claims is theirs.

...Isn't it time to stop letting corporations use our nations as fronts for their thieving and pillaging? ...God forbid using our militaries to help them do it?









[edit on 23-2-2010 by soficrow]

Originally posted by muse7

You chest thumping brits are funny.

"Yeah bring the whole continent of South America, we'll beat their armies to a pulp without help from the U.S.!"

I would love the reaction from all of the brits on this site if Britain loses the Falklands to Argentina if a war does indeed break out.

[edit on 2/22/2010 by muse7]

I'm a 'Brit' but not through choice and I would happily give the Falklands back to their rightful owners. Any war would be no war of mine.

Chavez is right, no time for Empires any more!