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Hugo Chavez demands Queen returns Falkland Islands to Argentina

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posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by thecrow001
reply to post by Vitchilo
 


When you say the UK should shut the hell up ... Its not the UK shouting.
Its not about a empire its about them wanting to stay British.


At the cost of the freedom of individuals. As it always has been. Colonialism lives!

Not for long, though. it's got consumption!



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by seamus
At the cost of the freedom of individuals.


Just so that I understand where you are coming from, who's freedoms are you referring to with regards to THIS Falklands situation?



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by seamus

Originally posted by thecrow001
reply to post by Vitchilo
 


When you say the UK should shut the hell up ... Its not the UK shouting.
Its not about a empire its about them wanting to stay British.


At the cost of the freedom of individuals. As it always has been. Colonialism lives!

Not for long, though. it's got consumption!


The individuals you are talking about. Would that be the British ones, who wish to remain British and NOT be overrun by the Argentinians?

OK, I'll grant them that freedom.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 09:31 AM
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reply to post by Wotan
 


Hopefully a RN Vanguard submarine packed with it's 16 trident missiles to shut them up..forever



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by seamus

Originally posted by thecrow001
reply to post by Vitchilo
 


When you say the UK should shut the hell up ... Its not the UK shouting.
Its not about a empire its about them wanting to stay British.


At the cost of the freedom of individuals. As it always has been. Colonialism lives!

Not for long, though. it's got consumption!


never in my life have i seen someone shoot themselfs in the foot so bad


maybe Chavez


1: At the cost of the freedom of individuals.....

You mean the 3.000 british inhabitants that have lived there for hundreds of years, that wish to remain british? or the spanish settlers who stole modern day argentina from the native indians around the same period? there was nobody no natives on that island when we colonized it, it was not forcefully taken unlike argentina was,

2: As it always has been. Colonialism lives!....

Read above

3: Not for long, though. it's got consumption!

*SINGS/CHANTS*
Come and have a go if you think your hard enuff
Come and have a go if you think your hard enuff
Come and have a go if you think your hard enuff



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by thecrow001
reply to post by BRITWARRIOR
 


*SINGS/CHANTS*
Come and have a go if you think your hard enuff
Come and have a go if you think your hard enuff
Come and have a go if you think your hard enuff


I haven't actually heard that in years (don't do football)

Shouldn't it be 'ard enuff though? lol



[edit on 23-2-2010 by nik1halo]



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 09:52 AM
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Lets not get anti-american here because some ignorant retard made some pretty lame comments about the UK. Im a brit and I think the americans are great. Once you get past the friendly rivalry, stereotypes and dark british humour the yanks are one of the best friends we have in this world. America would not be what it is today without the UK but the UK would not be what it is without America.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 09:58 AM
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reply to post by aristocrat2
 


Now that's what i call a Prime Minister take no s**t
Utterly brilliant



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by nik1halo

Originally posted by thecrow001
reply to post by BRITWARRIOR
 


*SINGS/CHANTS*
Come and have a go if you think your hard enuff
Come and have a go if you think your hard enuff
Come and have a go if you think your hard enuff


I haven't actually heard that in years (don't do football)

Shouldn't it be 'ard enuff though? lol



[edit on 23-2-2010 by nik1halo]


it should be, with cockneys...

its rather fitting though after we all got stereotyped as beer drinking football loving lazy lay abouts!



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 10:01 AM
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But we wouldn't as simple as that, they may be bigger in terms of land but population they are smaller and their army is drastically smaller with old equipment, we already have Sea and Air superiority over them.

If something happened the war would last 3 maybe 4 hours as the RN and RAF would bomb them into submission, with trident missiles on the nuclear sub at the falklands Argentina would never speak again..literally, that sub has orders to keep their nukes aimed at all major cities 24/7



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 10:03 AM
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I'd be singing "Rule Britannia" into the early morning hours laughing as the RN obliterate the navies.

We need some pride again, and if this happened and Gordon brown handled it well watch his support go through the roof, just like with Thatcher.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 10:05 AM
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You should probably try fighting your infiltrated, authoritarian government that doesn't give a damn about you and of which wouldn't give you a lick of profits you see from the oil you travel tens of miles a cross the world to die for in acquisition. Get a clue and stop being a pansy. You're talking as if you have a government that cares about you or your country. You ARE in debt, you aren't leaving Afghanistan any time soon because your puppet masters haven't finished killing your soldiers yet (especially since they need them for their illegitimate upcoming war against Iran), and your puppet masters would more than like you to get excited in thinking you are fighting for your own cause when you acquire a new oil field for them. They are globalists and don't give a damn about your "British pride".
By all means, get on with the violence. We all knew since 1948 that humans never moved pass imperialism.

[edit on 23-2-2010 by TSawyer]



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by Pryde87
Lets not get anti-american here because some ignorant retard made some pretty lame comments about the UK. Im a brit and I think the americans are great. Once you get past the friendly rivalry, stereotypes and dark british humour the yanks are one of the best friends we have in this world. America would not be what it is today without the UK but the UK would not be what it is without America.


I agree. Americans and Brits tend to make fun of each other but its all in good fun. When it comes down to it, we are great friends and make for one powerful alliance. Don't let one moron come between friends.

America will back our UK brothers when it comes to protecting their territory.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by muse7

So you're 100% confident that Britain alone would defeat an army of all South America's countries combined?


EXPECTED CASAULTY LEVELS IN UK versus SOUTH AMERICA

(We have 150 nukes... you do the maths)

Buenos Aires,Argentina 11655100
Sao Paulo, Brazil 10057700
Lima,Peru 7603500
Bogota, Colombia 6680500
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil 6029300
Santiago, Chile 5034500
Salvador, Brazil 2539500
Belo Horizonte, Brazil 2307800
Fortaleza, Brazil 2230800
Cali Colombia 2203800
Guayaquil ,Ecuador 2196800
Brasilia,Brazil 2089500
Medellin,Colombia 1932400
Maracaibo,Venezuela 1799900
Caracas,Venezuela 1763100
Quito Ecuador 1648100
Curitiba,Brazil 1642300
Manaus, Brazil 1524600
La Paz, Bolivia 1517800
Recife Brazil, 1464100
Cordoba,Argentina 1460200
Valencia, Venezuela 1457200
Montevideo,Uruguay 1449900
Porto Alegre,Brazil 1355100
Belem, Brazil 1344900
Barranquilla,Colombia 1298400
Rosario,Argentina 1243400
Santa Cruz,Bolivia 1161700
Goiania,Brazil 1132600
Guarulhos, Brazil 1096800
Campinas Brazil 993200
Mendoza Argentina 977500
Nova Iguacu Brazil 959100
Sao Goncalo Brazil 921000
Barquisimeto Venezuela 919500
Sao Luis Brazil 871800
Cartagena Colombia 853900
Maceio Brazil 850500
La Plata Argentina 833100
Duque de Caxias Brazil 797700
Tucuman Argentina 791200
Ciudad Guayana Venezuela 782600
Natal Brazil 737900
Arequipa Peru 733900
Sao Bernardo do Campo Brazil 714100
Teresina Brazil 705900
Campo Grande Brazil 685800
Mar del Plata Argentina 679000
Osasco Brazil 669700
Santo Andre Brazil 665600
Cucuta Colombia 657100
Joao Pessoa Brazil 614900
Jaboatao Brazil 613200
Trujillo Peru 600900
Cochabamba Bolivia 568900
Contagem Brazil 566300
Sao Jose dos Campos Brazil 565400
Asuncion Paraguay 546800
Bucaramanga Colombia 542400
Ribeirao Preto Brazil 526600
Salta Argentina 519900
Sorocaba Brazil 516400
Uberlandia Brazil 514400
Cuiaba Brazil 502500
Petare Venezuela 502300
Santa Fe Argentina 500000
Chiclayo Peru 490400
Aracaju Brazil 479900
Maracay Venezuela 479300
Niteroi Brazil 467300
Puente Alto Chile 463800
Sao Joao de Meriti Brazil 460600
Juiz de Fora Brazil 456800
Belford Roxo Brazil 450600
Londrina Brazil 449400
Feira de Santana Brazil 447800
Joinville Brazil 435800
San Juan Argentina 435700
Santos Brazil 423200
Ananindeua Brazil 418500
Concepción Chile 404600
Ibague Colombia 401400
Resistencia Argentina 399500
Neuquen Argentina 391900
Santiago del Estero Argentina 388100
Pereira Colombia 386900
Campos Brazil 378800
Maua Brazil 375200
Diadema Brazil 373300
Santa Marta Colombia 372200
Olinda Brazil 369500
Vila Velha Brazil 367000
Aparecida de Goiania Brazil 365500
Piura Peru 359400
Viña del Mar Chile 358800
Ciudad Bolivar Venezuela 358500
Bello Colombia 355000
Pasto Colombia 354000
Carapicuiba Brazil 353900
Sao Jose do Rio Preto Brazil 353200
Florianopolis Brazil 351800
Caxias do Sul Brazil 350700
Iquitos Peru 349300
Barcelona Venezuela 348600
Serra Brazil 345700
Manizales Colombia 342900
Campina Grande Brazil 342000
Corrientes Argentina 330000
Piracicaba Brazil 330000
Cariacica Brazil 325800
Bauru Brazil 322500
Temuco Chile 321000
Betim Brazil 320100
Neiva Colombia 318600
Canoas Brazil 316200
Sao Vicente Brazil 314900
Soledad Colombia 314200
Moji das Cruzes Brazil 313300
Jundiai Brazil 312000
Pelotas Brazil 310200
Bahia Blanca Argentina 309300
Vitoria Brazil 306200
Montes Claros Brazil 304800
Maturin Venezuela 303600
Valparaíso Chile 301700
Macapa Brazil 301600
Turmero Venezuela 301500
Armenia Colombia 300800
Chimbote Peru 298600
Talcahuano Chile 297900
Anapolis Brazil 297400
Posadas Argentina 297300
Maringa Brazil 294800
Franca Brazil 293000
Cumana Venezuela 293000
Itaquaquecetuba Brazil 292300
Porto Velho Brazil 292000
Villavicencio Colombia 290400
San Cristobal Venezuela 286200
Huancayo Peru 285600
Ciudad del Este Paraguay 285400
Soacha Colombia 284100
Guaruja Brazil 282900
Cusco Peru 282600
Valledupar Colombia 279900
Ponta Grossa Brazil 277200
Antofagasta Chile 277100
Cuenca Ecuador 277000
Petropolis Brazil 276400
Paulista Brazil 273200
Merida Venezuela 271400
Ribeirao das Neves Brazil 271300
San Bernardo Chile 270100
Foz do Iguacu Brazil 269100
Blumenau Brazil 261500
Jujuy Argentina 260500
Parana Argentina 258700
Limeira Brazil 256400
Barinas Venezuela 254000



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by thecrow001
reply to post by BRITWARRIOR
 



it should be, with cockneys...

its rather fitting though after we all got stereotyped as beer drinking football loving lazy lay abouts!





And up here in Brummie land


As for the stereotype, I don't even like football... the rest's pretty true though


What can we say... Don't feed the Trolls!



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by aorAki

Originally posted by stumason

The UK has had nuclear subs for 60 years. Bring it.


So, are you saying, right there, that you want a nuclear conflagration?



YOU BET! SHould have done it in '82. Send the Argies into the stratosphere once and for all.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 10:12 AM
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I don't know why you "Brits" keep mentioning your nukes. Is that supposed to make someone cringe? Rather than that, any rational human being would question your level of intelligence in suggesting using nuclear weapons on South America. As you know, South America is not too far from North America. I'm sure you don't want to commit a suicide now, for your dear "queen" sake. Get a clue.

American abroad



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by NuclearPaul
Chavez has a good heart, so he doesn't need a fancy suit. Fancy suits are for those who want to deceive, like used car salesmen.



Spot on!

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posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by TSawyer
reply to post by aristocrat2
 


I don't know why you "Brits" keep mentioning your nukes. Is that supposed to make someone cringe? Rather than that, any rational human being would question your level of intelligence in suggesting using nuclear weapons on South America. As you know, South America is not too far from North America. I'm sure you don't want to commit a suicide now, for your dear "queen" sake. Get a clue.

American abroad


I agree 100%

I am a Brit and I can't stand all this stupid Nuke talk.

The UK would NEVER ... NEVER use a nuke as a result to this particular situation and to be honest IMO if old Gordon even considered it (let alone do it) Millions would march on Downing Street and tear him limb from limb.

The Argentinians are NOT our enemy. They are actually a lovely nation of people just like us with famillies and wants and needs.

It's just some chest beating from a HUGELY unpopular government.

Please stop this playground Nuke talk...



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 10:24 AM
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According to sky news 32 countries have backed Argentina with a number of the Caribbean backing them as well.

Now Iran is firing up again with this..

news.sky.com... 5557782?lpos=World_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_7&lid=ARTICLE_15557782_Irans_President_Ahmadinejad_Threatens_To_Cut_The_Hands_Off_Anyone_Who_ Attacks_His_Country

"We will chop fof the hands of the attackers"

as well as 40 military commanders including 21 generals, admirals and air marshals have been arrested in an alleged coup attempt in Turkey..

"They are accused of conspiring to bomb mosques and engineering the shooting down of a Turkish fighter jet to trigger armed conflict with Greece."

the plans were being drawn up since 2003 it was codenamed "Operation Sledgehammer"

a lot is going on this week


EDIT: UK defence minister has said since the knowledge of 32 nations backing Argentina they will take whatever steps are necessary to defend the islands and any British interests.

I'll phone my cousins later and see if any bases have been told to prepare to fly to the falklands.

[edit on 17/05/09 by Raider of Truth]



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