Aliens wrote the Quran? ... Proof it wasn't written by Humans..

Here is a site that sort of ties all major religions to supernatural/extra terrestrial influence, but not in the typical way thought of by either side.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

It might take a little bit to get good, and plenty of it might be speculation, but the way it ties things together and connects religions, religious history and symbols in the middle is fascinating and hard to debunk, at least for me. (I can't start any threads yet, so if somebody finds this interesting, I would appreciate it if you would start a thread about the "DOMA collective" and link me to it so I could specifically discuss it there if it seems at all off topic for here)

Here is a link covering some of the "Goddess" worship connections that were not covered on the site

www.karmicjourney.us...

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Wow... you were so close too.

Hello i am a new guy here...
maybe to this forum but not this topic..

i am a bilingual person arabic is my mother language, english is my second..
i will be reading through the entire discussion to refresh myself on where the discussion is so i can stream myself here..i have read a few pages before but it wasn't the right time for me to engage in the discussion but now it is...


i believe my opinions here might be valuable due to how close i was to high level scholars back when i was still in my hometown...so my compass more accurate than a lot out there

i still research Quran / Language...

one thing i wanted to bring to the table is the naming of heaven & hell in Arabic

Heaven : الجنة ( al-jana )
Hell : النار ( al-nar )

these 2 names have rather unique properties...
and i wanted to share this with the environment here because i think its very relevant to the topic....

the fact that
a word can contain a message
in the form of visual language is beyond human capacity of language generation

check the video
www.youtube.com...

so to me its not about just Quran anymore..
its about the language also...

More to Come !

All Muslims, I need your help explaining away this that I found.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

One you go to the site, press ctrl + f to open the find bar and search "At the very beginning of each of the major chapters of the Koran" so you can skip to a certain paragraph that raises a ton of questions. This is related to the same site I linked to earlier, and these codes really seem to turn things upside down for anyone who reads it, even Muslims. If it is so, there are too many contradictions left behind and this looks like some sort of major trick. I want to know if this can be answered and explained away, and I think that this might need some serious critical analyzation by theologians and scholars.

Please spread this around and see if you can get any answers or explanations for what is up, I find it really confusing.

Actually, go back a little earlier and search " I will decipher the first code for you now" and start there, there is one more thing above the part I said to go to earlier.

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For some reason it won't let me edit my post right now so I have to do another one, but I want to add that this is worth checking out for those that are not religious as well. And if you have any religious friends, please show this to them, I would like to hear their thoughts on it.

(If somebody could start a separate thread for this and link me I would appreciate it, since I would need more posts to do so. I would also like it if somebody could make a thread about the "Daughters of Ma" site I linked to earlier.)


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Originally posted by NNightmare_osx
www.youtube.com...

Cute video, but it could be done with just about anything or any word.
Watch as "HELL" becomes...






...A spikey devilish figure!


And that's not even trying.

Mod Edit: Big Quote – Please Review This Link.

Hah, that's pretty funny.

Also, I am not trying to say anything bad about your religion, this is purely about the "miracle" claims going around. Some of the things supposedly found are fascinating, but there are too many bogus claims being made recently. There is a lot of spotty research and outright fabrication being spread around. Hopefully it's just mistakes and not intentional deception. First off, the "Haman hieroglyph" claim is completely false. The rumor spread around is a hoax, and no egyptologist has supported this, in fact, they have vehemently stated that it is false. (The page below is just one of many pages you can find on this)

www.answering-islam.org...

There are other errors and false claims going around, some that were posted in this thread, but that is the only one I will post. you can look the others up yourself. Never believe what you hear without confirming it.

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I am in contact with the ETs that wrote the quran and bible. They said it was all channeled and agreed upon by both negative and positive ETs. It was a collaboration, which explains all the inconsistencies and ridiculous things, also the negative things. Reptilians for example are behind the idea of the infidel and jihad being inserted into the quran(to incite war). They are also behind the idea of saviorship in christianity(someone ELSE will do it).

The religions were mainly done by reptilians from what Ive heard from my ET friends. To divide and incite hatred and war. Give people a different language, make them think the other is an infidel. Give them a belief in afterlife, and give them weapons. lol. If that doesnt work, mind control some

It reminds of me predictions always happening after the fact, if the qua'ran is so scientifically accurate how come we don't shut down all of the universities, laboratories and research centers and just hand out copies of the qua'ran?

Yes. Because an old book gives some amazing scientific evidence of ET sources, lets close down all universities labs and research..... /facepalm

Originally posted by seattletruth
Care to explain how Muhammad knew about the Big Bang?

He didn't.

"Did those who reject not see that the heavens and the earth were one mass and We tore them apart?"

He said everything came from 'one mass', which is about as far from the idea of the Big Bang as you can possibly get.

Originally posted by FOXMULDER147

Originally posted by seattletruth
Care to explain how Muhammad knew about the Big Bang?

He didn't.

"Did those who reject not see that the heavens and the earth were one mass and We tore them apart?"

He said everything came from 'one mass', which is about as far from the idea of the Big Bang as you can possibly get.

Most of the claims posted in this thread come from propaganda sites that twist around and misquote sections to make them sound better. Even some of the "19" things are false, and lump in or exclude certain words to make it work.

Great post Seattle.

The Quran has seven levels of interpretation. The one you are dealing on is probably one of the physical levels.

It is like all mystical scriptures basically a scientific healing mantra.

The mysteries of the number 19 were discovered by the American Muslim Dr. Rashid Khalifa.

I myself have authored a mystical cosmology on the eschatological mysteries of the world that discusses this number 19 as it relates to the apocalypse.

Here is a link to my book you might want to check out:

Very esoteric but explains the meaning of all the major allegories


books.google.com... =VEP3S-WcCcP7lwfw193lCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false


www.ccbpublishing.com...

accept the Qur'an's word. why say that aliens wrote it because it's intelligent? i'll give you another fact that proves that God authored the Qur'an and not god. the Qur'an says that the creatures created all throughout the history of the earth either had 2 legs or 4 legs. There's no way some aliens could've known that throughout billions and billions of years of the earth's history that the creatures existing only had 2 or 4 legs. human beings don't even know this. there are no 3 legged 5 legged or 6 legged animals. don't believe me look it up. it's always either been 2 or 4. i've been muslim for 4 years. and I've seen the truth in the Qur'an through experience. islam is the truth and the secret societies know this

there is no word infidel in the Qur'an. the word kaffir or kuffar means the truth concealer. it discribes someone who's heard the message of islam and rejects it. there is no legal command to kill such a person unless he fights against muslims with his health wealth etcetera. there is no war incitement. Jihad is self defense. "to defend the sick the weak.." you should learn properly islamic teachings before you jump to conclusions. people study islam for 6-10 hours a day for 15-30 years and there still not done. that's called an islamic scholar. not someone who took up a class for 4 years at harvard. maybe you should talk to one.

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you are a liar. if you were bilingual you'd know that it's an nar not al nar because ن is a shams letter

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muhammad(saw) did not know how to write. he was illiterate. another proof of where the Qur'an came from. and he did not kill himself. he was poisened by a jew just like alot of the other prophets. research things! i urge you all to do so! you don't have to make up or assume history about the Qur'an or muhammad(saw). it's all being directly and perfectly preserved and copied. people recorded his entire life to a tea and there are collections of hundreds of thousands of his sayings. more than any other person in history. even modern figures such as martin luther king abraham lincoln gandhi stalin hitler or winston churchill don't have hundreds of thousands of his sayings saved. and this was 1400 years ago.

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it is impossible to rule over muslims and control them. that's why there's so much anti islamic hatred. because muslims only do what god tells them to do. if god tells them to obey a person they obey him by what god ordains. the second khalifa umer al khattab asked his closest men what would they do if he was wrong and didn't do justice. they said they would chop his head off. he liked there response. there must be some form of control or else there be anarchy and people will start eating each other. the oppression happens when man is in control instead of god. noone can just jump up and say this is islam adding things to it and people will accept what he says. he'll be denounced as a heretic and executed. that's why islam is a threat to the nwo and secret societies.

p.s the guy who discovered alot of this stuff about numbers in the Qur'an claimed he was a prophet and was gunned down by muslims. rashad khalifa.

sorry for all the posts but i think how there are 20 different opinions on the origins of islam obviously points out how people just fail to belive and it has nothing to do with logic or reasoning. one person says bible. next aliens. next seizures. next satan. next wrote(even though he couldn't write). next reptilians. next muhammad(saw) was a reptilian. next jewish texts. then secret societies. then catholicism. then the jesuits. then the white people. and then back to deranged. then greek texts. then babylonian texts. and then egyptian texts. i'd just like to say one thing. and i speak to you all (disbelivers) as one body. come back to me when you've made your decision. because it's obvious that you all are trying to pull anything out your ass to disprove islam.

Originally posted by ozzyfan269
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I am sorry Seattletruth, I don't see any of that what you quoted as being evidence of anything. I know the story of Muhammad and believe that he was a fraud who was just looking to get power through force, have sex/rape as many women as possible, and to steal money and goods like a demon. From what I have read, and these were actual Islamic texts, the Quran itself, and the hadith this Muhammed fellow was nothing more than a master grifter criminal.

Also lets not even mention his marriage to Ayesha, a 6 year old.

That being said, he may have been better than the Zionists who are currently ruining the world.

You don't know the story of Muhammad (SAW). He was, without doubt the most influential man that ever lived, so I guess you owe it to yourself to know his story. Oh, and that's the view of a non-Muslim.

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by Cole DeSteele
These are definitely impressive observations, but PROOF of alien inspiration?

I mean, its not impossible for a man to have come up with these calculations.

Maybe you could isolate 1 example that absolutely, positively could not have been written by a man - your conclusion that it could only be alien i find to be quite a leap.

Well, I suppose you'd have to elevate Muhammad (SAW) pretty highly as a human, because he could neither read nor write. The whole thing was memorized, as it is by some to this day. What kind of a mind could keep check of the cross referencing of multiples/calculations, because if one little thing is wrong, then it's all wrong - e.g. in 23 years from start to finish, he didn't make one mistake.

And to top it all off, the second verse states that you won't find any errors in this book. Now that's confidence!

Even an alien is created by something; and this was not produced by the created, but by The Creator.

But, it is as the Quran states, there is no compulsion in religion...

_javascript:icon('') great read dude i just picked up a qu'ran to study as i have been doing alot of spiritual research for myself and reading the qu'ran is on my list of things to do star and flag for the effort bro

peace