Steve Greer (CSETI) Photograph ET Being

Something I worked on today... I'm not picking sides here, just trying something that has yet to be tried? Anyway... here you go.

(I DON'T KNOW WHY THE SCROLL BARS ARE NOT ACTIVATED, IF YOU RIGHT CLICK THE PIC AND SAVE IT TO YOUR DESKTOP, OR RIGHT CLICK ON IMAGE AND "OPEN IMAGE IN NEW WINDOW")

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/22e58f6c2b77.jpg[/atsimg]

and

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/bd701db56736.jpg[/atsimg]

Hope this helps.


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Originally posted by devenirmusic

(I DON'T KNOW WHY THE SCROLL BARS ARE NOT ACTIVATED, IF YOU RIGHT CLICK THE PIC AND SAVE IT TO YOUR DESKTOP, OR RIGHT CLICK ON IMAGE AND "OPEN IMAGE IN NEW WINDOW")

Edit your post and change your image tags from atsimg to img.

IRM

Oh, for crying out loud... WTF is that!?!? I don't see anything remotely close to an ET - in fact, I don't see a thing in either of those photos! How many more times are we going to be suckered in to looking at "A photo of an extraterrestial" only to be greeted by amorphous blobs, blurs, smears and streaks!? Honestly, this is just getting ridiculous!

I'm not a photo expert but a quick glance at the EXIF data reveals the photo has been altered with Apple Quicktime, indicating this is not an original photo.

Originally posted by InfaRedMan
This is the response from Debbie Foch of CSETI the same day. I have removed my name and email address for reasons of privacy.

Er, you may want to edit your post again if you still can as your first name is still showing in Mrs Foch's response.

I sent Debbie an email back as I wasn't overly enthused by the brief reply:

Yeah, Debbie tends to be really terse with people as I imagine they get hundreds and hundreds of emails all the time.

So it appears Steven is going to rationalize/plug this photo on the Puja Radio Show. I'm not aware of this show. Can someone record it, mp3 it and put it somewhere for download? In any case, it's going to be interesting how this is spun. Will it be used as a marketing ploy to bolster what could be flagging numbers at the CSET field trips? I guess we will know soon.

No, I don't believe so. I think they rely mostly on positive-word-of-mouth for their marketing.

If you think about it, they really don't try very hard to market the field trips. If they really wanted to market it, ol Stevie would be regularly approaching venues like Larry King, C2C, Paracast, ATS etc etc.

Instead he tends to hang out on the rather obscure World Puja network and have "conversations" with Loder and Linda Willits and Jan Bravo over and over again.....

Originally posted by InfaRedMan
No surprises there! I guess we won't see him defending his claims on Paracast then!

Why, so Biedny and Vaeni can rant and scream and spew venom like lunatics and relentlessly slander him for 15 minutes straight after he goes off the air again?

He'd have to truly be off his rocker to ever want to do business with those two........ guys, again.

Come on guys! 11 pages of discussion over such idiotic photos from someone as discredited as Greer?!?!

Even bothering to give this tripe the time of day encourages more of it. Greer is a moron, plain as simple. Go ahead, get mad at me, tell me how I am wrong and close minded. But then go on to continue running in place concerning this subject forever...as long as you get your jollies by doing so. Meanwhile, lengthy discussion on something such as this only serves the idiots that made it up.

Please guys, let this one die an early death. just because it comes from "Greer" doesn't mean we have to debate as we are.

Just think, whenever this stuff goes mainstream and the average Joe want to go on the internet to take a further look......they run into this tripe. You wanna be responsible for that?

Sometimes this subject just makes me want to scream.

Hmmm some nice pictures of a small tree, 2 armchairs covered in sheets and what appears to be either a nice topiary or possibly some kind of egyptian statue all floating against a background of space stolen from an old episode of star trek

A chimpanzee with a copy of photoshop could do better than this.

Originally posted by MajorDisaster
Er, you may want to edit your post again if you still can as your first name is still showing in Mrs Foch's response.

Nah... my first name is no secret on ATS mate!

IRM

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
Go ahead, get mad at me, tell me how I am wrong and close minded. But then go on to continue running in place concerning this subject forever...as long as you get your jollies by doing so.

Nah.

Greer will never cater to the ATS crowd, he's proven that. And the ATS crowd mostly despises Greer.

No one on here is ever going to actually try attending one of the expeditions, or actually talk to the first-hand witnesses about their experiences.

So I agree with you that it's mostly a pointless subject. Flame and debunk to your heart's content!

There are much better and more important things to get involved in - like Free Energy

It's one thing to say "something interesting showed up on our cameras"..it's another to claim out right that it is definitely an ET. The photo I'm looking at is vague at best. Greer.....dude, come on man....

After reviewing this latest, umm, image, and considering the last batch of moths being called "Alien Light Being Mother Ships" or something like that, I am seriously considering what several members have suggested about putting all the CSeti stuff into the HOAX forum.

I would like to get a consensus from the membership on this.

What say we all? Has this latest stunt earned the good doctor a permanent place in our HOAX forum?

Springer...

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I praise for the initiative of putting sources in their places.

These people get way too many opportunities to prove them-selfs, and instead of proving their good intentions and showing that they are only trying to spread the word, they always appear to be spreading their pockets in order to take profit from these things.

I know that mods and ATS staff don't throw everything to garbage, at least without discussing it first, and pinpoint the credibility and plausibility of a subject, so the risk of loosing something important is low.

So, I totally agree that this source should be putted into "sleep".

This was the last drop.

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To the hoax bin with 'im.

I m probably not as familiar with Greer as some others here obviously are; but it could be rampant self-delusion. At least give em more rope to hang imself with.

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Yes, and while you're at it throw in David Wilcock too

reply to post by Springer
Hoax forum. Seems the best way forward for now...

To the HOAX bin with this!

I hope more people speak up, however many probably don't check back into this thread after the first couple of pages. Perhaps a new thread should be started by Springer or another ATS representative concerning putting Greer material in the HOAX section.

The time when Greer doesn't push a hoax is when a combination facts, reason, logic and common sense will pull him out of the hoax section. But until then, I am more than willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater in this case, and I bet the majority of this community is as well.

I wouldn't put him entirely into the HOAX forum.

This particular topic? Yes, probably. I don't really know why he twisted. But i still think it was some kind of slip or joke. I don't want to get into some details about him which some of you may or may not know about, but don't sign him off entirely yet. Wait till the last ever G8 meeting in June and then decide.

One thing i maybe should point out about him though in a discrete way is: Don't judge a book by its physical cover.

Peace.

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I am initially inclined to say 'Hoax bin', Springer, but I only hesitate because he did manage to get some military persons together on a nationally recorded format and have them testify to some really interesting info.

NOW...

His pictures out in the desert and 'field training' costs are another matter entirely. Is there away to separate this into two diff. categories?

Better question:

Is Greer deliberately hoaxing these pictures, or just imagining that these images on film are things that aren't really definitively there, and making presumptuous claims?


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