Steve Greer (CSETI) Photograph ET Being

reply to post by debris765nju


Debris: We all here, to one degree or another believe in extra-terrestrial life. The reason we are here in this forum is to analyze evidence that is beyond anecdotal or inconclusive. You can't expect to show up here with a bunch of vague fuzzy photos and expect us all to believe you are in contact w. aliens. If they are who they say they are, they can surely provide you with better images...no exceptions.

There MAY be something in that picture, it is just that nobody has looked at it the "right" way. (haha) The area that we would consider the chest of the creature, I believe could actually be the face. To me, it appears to be a cross between a praying mantis and a praying monk. If you look at the large red circle in the "left armpit area", it does resemble a more bulbous eye. you can see a perfect profile of a head angled towards the ground, as if in prayer. I see it as wearing some headgear (what everyone has labeled as the actual head) You can see the curled up hand, as if in prayer. This is also if you look at the "chest" as the head. To me, it appears more alien to look at it this way. the jury is still out on cseti photos.

It seems very difficult to prove the existence of entities that can dematerialize at will, but in all likelihood, they are there, but very difficult to prove to a scientist-type. The less we are biased by science, the more things our minds are capable of. Greer is right about stuff, like his knowledge on the Indian Vedic scriptures. Yogis have been able to perform similar feats of dematerialization and levitation for centuries now.

LOOK AT THIS CROPPING OF THE PHOTO. The head appears at the top left!


[edit on 23-2-2010 by ToHoldaPigeon]

reply to post by NightVision


s914.photobucket.com... Your problem is that you cannot get beyond your own preconceptions. My alien contact is ongoing and neverending. These entities are entering through me so it is impossible for me not to notice them.

s914.photobucket.com... My sole purpose in posting my photographs is to let you see what i have seen and experienced.

My anaylsis images from CSETI. Total 9 files here, with applied many different filters, descriptions of each in accordance and reference of the other photos and CSETI staff testimony.

www.djinn-industries.com... (ANALYSIS IMAGES)
www.djinn-industries.com... (EXIF DATA)

Here is the EXIF data file. "FROM original source", from CSETI staff. I know where the picture was taken, by who, at what time, which is not Greer but a person who was in the circle of 40 other people.

Granted the photo is poor quality, but it is real.

[edit on 24-2-2010 by Cosmicdjinn]

Originally posted by Cosmicdjinn

Granted the photo is poor quality, but it is real.

No one said it wasn't a photo.

Seriously, did you find someone arguing that it was a painting or something?

Some may suggest a fake, or edit, or file hack, or computer generated elements. I'm simply clearing up those speculatons. I do photography & editing, and CG artist. There is no allteration in the original.
DeepBlueHorizon posted that the EXIF data was not real, but in fact I have the Original. As well I know who took the photograph (she). Where she was sittng, and this event did take place.
My main point being, enough debunking. The image and event are real, as well the people who witnessed it. Just try to live with it, who ever opposes it.
It was highly contrversial that the image would be laughed at, which it is. But, chose to release it anyway because this is truth. What was seen was seen, the photograph contains transdimentional technology proof but well over comprehension of someone who does not understand it, or refuses to believe things like this can be real.

No offence to anyone, I just want to get the facts out before allegations get out of hand. The image is not in question, what is...is what is anyone going to do about it? Probably nothing, if we all continue to discredit real material and real good people.

Thank you all.

[edit on 24-2-2010 by Cosmicdjinn]

I wonder why Obama didn't respond to his letter and plea for disclosure?

Originally posted by Cosmicdjinn

It was highly contrversial that the image would be laughed at, which it is. But, chose to release it anyway because this is truth. What was seen was seen, the photograph contains transdimentional technology proof but well over comprehension of someone who does not understand it, or refuses to believe things like this can be real.

I'm certain the photo itself is authentic. That was never the problem. I just need to know what I'm supposed to be looking at. I believe in these things, including interdimensional beings, but I've never seen one. So the alien is the skinny crinkly seahorse thing? I take it, therefore, that the accompanying description of the being comes from the eyewitnesses who saw it first hand, rather than of the photo itself? Because it's really hard to see the features described. in that image. That's putting it politely.

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In that large version of the photo, the supposed “alien” is nothing more then a part of the bush to the right side of the photo.

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G'day Cosmicdjinn

I'm sorry, but I truly tried to see something in those photos.

I couldn't.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by debris765nju
s914.photobucket.com... My sole purpose in posting my photographs is to let you see what i have seen and experienced.

debris765nju,

This isn't your thread to hijack. After dispelling one set of bogus claims and photographs from CSETI, we don't need you coming in here and trying to make it all about you.

Create your own thread on your supposed alien images!

IRM

Originally posted by Cosmicdjinn
DeepBlueHorizon posted that the EXIF data was not real, but in fact I have the Original. As well I know who took the photograph (she). Where she was sittng, and this event did take place.
My main point being, enough debunking. The image and event are real, as well the people who witnessed it. Just try to live with it, who ever opposes it.

Hmm so are you saying that you were there, Cosmicdjinn? You are a CSETI member?

Originally posted by InfaRedMan
debris765nju,

This isn't your thread to hijack. After dispelling one set of bogus claims and photographs from CSETI, we don't need you coming in here and trying to make it all about you.

Create your own thread on your supposed alien images!

"It sounds like you are a CSETI member and you were present at the event in question - ie, a WITNESS. We can't allow you to be in here. We have already won this one and had Greer officially declared a HOAXer so get out of our little flamefest and stay away!"

Originally posted by Cosmicdjinn
Some may suggest a fake, or edit, or file hack, or computer generated elements. I'm simply clearing up those speculatons. I do photography & editing, and CG artist. There is no allteration in the original.
DeepBlueHorizon posted that the EXIF data was not real, but in fact I have the Original. As well I know who took the photograph (she). Where she was sittng, and this event did take place.
My main point being, enough debunking. The image and event are real, as well the people who witnessed it. Just try to live with it, who ever opposes it.
It was highly contrversial that the image would be laughed at, which it is. But, chose to release it anyway because this is truth. What was seen was seen, the photograph contains transdimentional technology proof but well over comprehension of someone who does not understand it, or refuses to believe things like this can be real.

No offence to anyone, I just want to get the facts out before allegations get out of hand. The image is not in question, what is...is what is anyone going to do about it? Probably nothing, if we all continue to discredit real material and real good people.

Thank you all

So, you are saying that you know the person who took this photo and witnessed seeing an alien.

- Did she say if she saw the alien before the photo was taken, or she only saw it in the photo?

- If she saw it while she took the photo, did she then walk to the spot the alien was allegedly located to verify that it was not just a shrub and a trick of light?

- Did she say that the alien disappeared after taking the picture and before she could get closer to investigate?

- Did she take any other pictures of those chairs that night that DON'T show the alleged alien? Perhaps she continued taking several pictures until the alleged alien disappeared and immediately after. I probably would have taken several pictures.



[edit on 2/24/2010 by Soylent Green Is People]

Originally posted by debris765nju
Your problem is that you cannot get beyond your own preconceptions. My alien contact is ongoing and neverending. These entities are entering through me so it is impossible for me not to notice them.

Incorrect. My problem isn't my own preconceptions. I believe many people here on this board have been contacted. You take fuzzy inconclusive photos of objects that look like you zoomed in on a TV screen, and expect us all to believe you.

Again, since these entities are far advanced technologically speaking, and are 'constantly coming through you' should have no trouble producing ONE clear photograph, w. some kind of frame of reference...but..you dont.

Like many others, your claims just fall on deaf ears, due to your inability to produce solid photographic data.

See also:

en.wikipedia.org...

[edit on 24-2-2010 by NightVision]

Originally posted by NightVision
Again, since these entities are far advanced technologically speaking, and are 'constantly coming through you' should have no trouble producing ONE clear photograph, w. some kind of frame of reference...but..you dont.

Like many others, your claims just fall on deaf ears, due to your inability to produce solid photographic data.

Why is it that people think a mere photograph or two is going to prove aliens?

If a photo is blurry, people go "that's too blurry, that could be anything. Hoax!"

If a photo is clear, people go "that's too clear. You did that in Photoshop or some CGI software. Hoax!"

Or if somebody produces something really compelling like say the Alien Autopsy video, people go "Hoax! They just got the Jim Henson company or someone to produce that."

One day it will Dawn on you guys that the important thing isn't really the photos, it's the witnesses. Having credible witnesses is everything.

CSETI witnesses try to come on here to talk about their experiences and they get harassed and attacked until they leave or get banned. So no wonder Greer absolutely never caters to the ATS crowd........

Yes I do know the person who took the photogrph, and no I wasn't there. I'm not taking over this thread, I just prefer to see some positivity come out of the release of the photo as it is a true event. Not a tv screen either, geesh.
I think the biggest problem everyone has is that it is CSETI and you expect a better picture, however for real truth to be told it must contain truth elements, this is merely one of them. Greer does not brin forth all the evidence becuse people would simply tear it apart just like this.
I was not there at that site, but I do know them. And, I know they would never put an image out there if it was not in fact the real deal. It's simply not how they operate.
I asked for the original photo, they did not request me to analyze. I seen the debunking going on, but I know these people are not about hoaxing stupid photographs. In fact they have the platform to create a more believable hoax "if they chose" to do so. The quality of this picture is what it is because that is truth, from a lousy camera..indeed.
This is a discussion about the CSETI images and I am taking part on my own behalf, as well in defence of the event; people; and images displayed.
The images I posted are my own analysis, and description. As well I had spoken to people about the event, where everyone was, in what position where they, what were they doing, who took the photo, what day, what time, why the photo was taken, ect..ect.. I question the event trying to bring detail into the photographs displayed so I could determine if in fact everything in the photo was accurate. I done my tests, and extracted EXIF data. The image, as well as the positions of every element are accurate. But, I am guilty I guess for being bias to people I know would not just throw a perfectly debunkable hoax out there to get smeared in their name. The decision to release the image was not without certainty of debunking, it was in fact a deciion of truth; trust; and hope that it would spark some interest and belief into a realm in which alot of people ar not comprehending at the moment.
For those of you applauding Greer and the individuals creating the platform for everything coming foward today about ET's, technology, and your Tranparant government FOAI on UFO's and Alien content, not only in United States but around the world. I return the applauding, and I will see all of you on the right side of humanity for once in our history. Greer was a remarkable individual before he was a ER operator, an ER Master with impeckable crudentials probably making more money than most of us dream. Putting himself into a position where he would get laughed at is not a smart move, nor was it a move he intended to persue. A difficult topic amongst most to discuss with virtually anyone, he welcomes the oppertunity to discuss it because there is a much larger picture than just a lousy photo or discriminating remarks and allegations against him.
I do not see any of you out there making the change, or presenting anything to help change. I support this venue, this coarse of action because I believe in it. Not just what I read on the net, or what people tell me. What I have seen with my own eyes and heard with my own ears...I know the truth. Alot of you in here probably have seen or expericned something yourselves, great.

This thread is about "Steven Greer (CSETI) Photograph ET Being" I am in favor and persuit of truth in the original photographs and Greer's intentions.

Thank you all.

You can find all of "my" analysis images here
www.djinn-industries.com...

[edit on 24-2-2010 by Cosmicdjinn]

Anyone who is having trouble seeing what is in the picture, I will atempt to show you. As well you can see all the images that I have created with this link: http:www.djinn-industries.com/CSETI



Yes, it is poor quality, and very hard to make out anything from it. But as in relation to knowing the testimonys of induviduals, the other photos in the daytime to show the scene. I have concluded the nearly exact position of all elements in the photos. The ET photographed is not the tree, nor the other bush, the camera was 25' from the chairs in the photograph, across a circular group of chairs of 40. The image was taken due to the unknown light, then at the time was not noticed of the ET in the background, afterwards yes. It flew over & past the chairs across the group a few feet in overhead.

In my images you can the Exposed Shadow of the light source in the middle of the screen, as wll all 3 chairs, and the ET. According to the photographs during the daytime and testimony, at 25' from the chairs, and 8' behind the chairs where the ET was, it is impossible that the Tree be there...the image stops just after the 3rd chair on the right with no tree, or the 2nd bush be illuminated. 2nd bush is being blocked by the first, see the unknown light source position for the angle of light. The imag ws taken with no moonlight, and no flash, the only light source was the unknown liht that appeared before the ET passed through the group.

I really don't know what else to say untill I get someone else in here that is going to open their mind a little and see this, or do some homework and stop trying to debunk, try to find fact. I seem to be all alone here.