Plane crashes into Austin building

For Answer See Sig Line Below.

reply to post by patmac

The writing process, started many months ago, was intended to be therapy in the face of the looming realization that there isn’t enough therapy in the world that can fix what is really broken. Needless to say, this rant could fill volumes with example after example if I would let it. I find the process of writing it frustrating, tedious, and probably pointless… especially given my gross inability to gracefully articulate my thoughts in light of the storm raging in my head. Exactly what is therapeutic about that I’m not sure, but desperate times call for desperate measures.

....gross inability to gracefully articulate my thoughts......

Well, this doesn't sound like he's having too hard a time with the writing does it? This is planted. If not, the guy is Hannibal Lecter's slightly less elegant brother. i mean that's pretty articulate to me.....

Originally posted by DukeOfDorch
reply to post by patmac

 

The original is at embeddedart.com. Here is the info for that domain, including an address:

Domain name: EMBEDDEDART.COM


Administrative Contact:
Stack, Joe [email protected]
925 E Hwy 80
287
San Marcos, TX 78666
US
1.3215649879
Technical Contact:
Stack, Joe [email protected]
925 E Hwy 80
287
San Marcos, TX 78666
US
1.3215649879

We have any Ubergeeks here?

I did a couple traceroutes of That domain name. Interesting thing is that it bounces proxies and "unknown owner" IPs than My freind with the paranoia complex. Interestingly, a number of the traces to "Unknown" points are mapped on google maps as being in the middle of yards and also happen to be near government buildings.

If we have any geeks with more experience in tracing etc, your info would probably help alot.

I for one, aside from the writing being contradictory to the alleged state of mind, refuse to accept the letter's validity at this time.

Forgot this info:

www.yougetsignal.com...

the site I used to traceroute it

[edit on 19-2-2010 by pyrael]

Originally posted by patmac
Google cache of his site before the manuscript update

Somewhat a strange site. It's like 5 pages long and on the sitemap page, there's a strange paragraph.

embeddedart.com...

This page is also a demonstration of an interesting documentation paradox. In its current state, the design is very simple; so simple, that one wonders why even bother with a map. However, without the map it takes a visitor much longer to figure out just how simple the layout is.... ah, that all of life should be so simple.

[edit on 18-2-2010 by patmac]

[edit on 18-2-2010 by patmac]

I found this a few minutes ago:

cryptome.org...

The entire original site reconstruted?

Originally posted by Letmypeoplego
I would be lying if I didn't say that I envy this man. If all of us could gain the same spirit he had we could change this country in a day. Our Government is not scared of us, they will do their will until they become to scared to # with us.

Not really.

It would just mean we'd all be dead, burnt to a crisp instead of just this one man.

The idea of a war is to make the other guy die for their country, not to die for yours.

Of course, in this case it'd be a revolution or a civil war, so it'd be a tad different...

but still...

something I noticed while details of the crash were being told,is that the CIA has an office in Austin.Coming from smalltown,USA. just goes to show you,how deep they are.Seems like they would hide behind a phoney business.

I have noticed that a lot of these major events have smaller, less well publicized ''follow on'' incidents. Late last night, some joker stole a small airplane from a municipal field here in San Diego and landed on the runways of Los Angeles International Airport at 3am.

www.signonsandiego.com...

The propaganda has been suitably catapulted.

reply to post by starviego


WHY do you think these two incidents are related in any way, shape or form????

Ever heard of the word "coincidence"????

reply to post by starviego


These sorts of things happen all the time but the media is now sensitized to small aircraft incidents and so they will grab any story off the wire that involve small aircraft. This usually lasts for a couple of days and it is why there seems to be a "sudden" wave of incidents. Normally these things are of local interest only and they get ignored.

Here's a for instance. Here in Atlanta yesterday a Zebra got loose from a Zoo and ran down one of our Interstates. You probably didn't hear about it but it tied up traffic for hours. On the other hand if a Zoo animal had escaped a few days earlier and had eaten someone, then you would have heard about our Zebra.

OK, I will connect the dots for you--

Man flies general aviation plane into building. People die.

Man flies stolen general aviation plane into LAX. What's at LAX? Big planes. And just a few hours after he landed, those big planes would have lots of people in them.

So we are to imagine a kamikaze attack on taxiing aircraft at a major airport. Big boom, lots of casualties.

They can't attack our right to travel via privately-owned aircraft based on one just isolated incident. So they create a 'cloud' of similar incidents over time to create the problem, then inevitably come to the rescue with more of their 'solutions.'. It won't happen right away. But in year or two, yeah, it will come.

reply to post by lunarminer


Perfect!!!!

Does anyone remember the old TV broadcast adage????

"If it bleeds, it leads"!!!

It is ALL about the MOST sensationalist story, of the day!!!!! AND, beating your competitors, for ratings!!!!

For instance....that same day, as the Austin, Texas, susicide one pilot nutjob?????

A United Airlines Boeing 757, regularly scheduled flight from Denver to San Francisco, was diverted to, and landed in Salt Lake City (closest best airport on the route, at the time) because a threatening note was found, by an F/A, (discovered, left anonymously, in a galley) to indicate that a bomb was onboard.

WE TAKE THESE events very, very seriously!!!! There is NO other course of action, when this happens, but to land as soon as practible.

We have "bomb" scenario checklists to follow, as well....and I will NOT mention the details, of course....

HOWEVER, this UAL event was completely overshadowed by the Austin, Texas event....

Does show how 'media' drives perception, to some degree...BUT that does NOT imply "conspiracy" in all cases!!!

To jump to that conclusion, absent other evidence, is just nuts!


Sorry to be so blunt.....

reply to post by starviego

They can't attack our right to travel via privately-owned aircraft based on one just isolated incident. So they create a 'cloud' of similar incidents over time...

"THEY"????

This was one pissed-off lone nutjob!!!!!

Jaysus!!!!

You are, in your post, GIVING IDEAS TO OTHER NUTJOBS!!!!!!

STOP IT!!!!

If you really, truly think this was some sort of "false-flag" event....dontcha think it wold have been BIGGER in scope????

I mean, YOU just imagined it!!!!!

AND, now that you've blurted it out, maybe YOU will contribute, by suggestion, to some other radical person (or group) to embark on that "mission"!!!

I hope you can live with yourself......

reply to post by starviego


Dropped the mouse, in frustration and anger...so double post deleted....

[edit on 19 February 2010 by weedwhacker]

reply to post by starviego


If the Feds were planning to shutdown civil aviation then they could do it since the FAA has complete control over all aviation in this country, except for military and government.

If they tried to stage a false flag exercise as a cover excuse to do it, then they would not stage that event at 3am. There is precious little going on at LAX at 3am. This is most likely a guy who decieded to go for a joyride in someone else's plane and did it at 3am because there would be less chance of being caught.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

reply to post by weedwhacker


I remember seeing that story on the crawl and I forgot all about it too. If the Austin thing had not happened then we would be hearing about every plane that diverted because a guy was locked in the lavatory.

reply to post by lunarminer


Well..."Locked in the Lavatory" is not a good comparison.

(I know, this probably relates to the British citizen, Richard Reid, the "shoebomber", from December, 2001....even though he may have tried to "light" his shoe whilst in the lavatory....but I think this is incorrect...nevertheless....)

You all should know, right off the bat....that EVERY airline crewmember (and airline mechanic, for that matter) knows HOW TO OPEN a lavatory door, if locked from inside, from outside!!!!

It is not difficult, it is very simple....we don't usually do it (for obvious personal reasons) unless there is a valid reason.

(HINT: Has anyone EVER been on a flight where the lavatory was labeled as "INOPERATIVE"???? Guess what? It was LOCKED (secretly) from outside, to prevent you from using it!!!! AND, it can be as easily UNLOCKED, when needed, by anyone who knows how!!!!!)

Sorry to burst another 'conspiracy' bubble, here....

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'm going to add, here....even the Cabin Cleaners know this 'secret'!!!!

So...it's not much of a secret, after all...except to those not associated with the airline industry.....



[edit on 19 February 2010 by weedwhacker]

reply to post by Mr.Jcury

I wanted to talk about something I knotest about gmail with someone before posting… SO if any of the veterans of ATS would like to discuss this please contact me on ATS.

You must be referring to Google's auto-draft function of which auto-saves your content to the draft folder in real time. If you back out of a pending email, you would be prompted to "discard auto draft" upon exiting the email applet.

Best guess.

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reply to post by pyrael

If we have any geeks with more experience in tracing etc, your info would probably help alot.

Whether one's a geek or not, they could always forward information like ^that^ to Judicial Watch for I'm sure they'd appreciate it.

If it really concerns another, as it should, one could always hire a computer forensics specialist to take a 'closer' look though each has there own specialties. It's a good idea to interview first.

If your concerned about your own system, it can help to become familiar with Start>Control Panel>Adminstrative Tools>Event Viewer. Copy it once a month, (electronic draft and printed back-up), just in case.

My system is a 'hotel' for trojans, viruses, worms, spyware. As they feed, I like to take notes and assume we as One. Keeps it interesting for 'all' concerned.


[edit on 20-2-2010 by Perseus Apex]

reply to post by patmac

Somewhat a strange site. It's like 5 pages long and on the sitemap page, there's a strange paragraph.

The guy was a software engineer. He's just commenting on an obvious dilemma. It nothing strange or particularly deep, just insightful.

Sometimes something is so simple that the user thinks that there must be more to it. And a visual diagram, even a tree structure of all the menu items can help the user see just how simple it really is without endlessly searching for something more. Of course when it really is complicated, then you really need a map.

Originally posted by lunarminer
.... they would not stage that event at 3am. There is precious little going on at LAX at 3am. This is most likely a guy who decieded to go for a joyride in someone else's plane and did it at 3am because there would be less chance of being caught.

I think if I stole a plane in SoCal and didn't want to get caught, LAX, the largest airport for hundreds of miles around, would the THE LAST choice on my list of potential landing sites.