9/11 Questions and ONE Single Answer... WE WILL NOT FORGET!

reply to post by downisreallyup


Point taken just setting a record straight .

If someone professes its been debunked back it up . And if has not been debunked and they are professing it has we should call them on it . That is all I was doing . If not people reading the post could believe false claims as being a truly debunked angle .

will give your post a read

Originally posted by Lostinthedarkness
reply to post by downisreallyup

 

Point taken just setting a record straight .

If someone professes its been debunked back it up . And if has not been debunked and they are professing it has we should call them on it . That is all I was doing . If not people reading the post could believe false claims as being a truly debunked angle .

will give your post a read

No worries mate! I was mainly writing that for Dereks benefit, since he is the one who likes to get threads going down bunny trails that are often (but not always) red herrings or strawman arguments.

Let me know what you think of the post, if you don't mind

reply to post by TwoPhish

Blow a hole as opposed to crash an airliner,Hmmm
The hole only existed for a short while.If an airplane actually did the deed the Pentacon would not have had a single hole caused by fusilage,rather two engine holes,two wing fuel tank blasts and the belly tank blast.The whole wall would have been knocked in,in similar pattern to the towers,albeit different from the reinforced concrete,but the whole plane would have made it's mark,not a hole.Missile,on the other hand,would do nothing BUT what we saw.Which brings up another question,wasn't there DU radiation detected around the five sided crime scene?

No this was just like Lucky Larry,Patron Saint of the Truster Religion,saying,"Pull IT." not Pull THEM as the firefighters were long gone from the building,waiting on the countdown.

I stand by my analysis.For a Dick like Cheney(see what I did there?Sorry to any Richards out there)having a taste of UberPower,now all he can do is continue showing that he did it and got away with it by leaking these tidbits.Insult on injury.He'll do more unless he is heart attack-ed,like Casey,then he'll get the blame,also like Casey.We never learn.

One thing I have not seen is an analysis of the light sig in the blast flash at the Pentacon.The crappy one shot of fireball looks like one constituent.In other words,if an airliner hit the bdg.,the first to hit,get atomized and spread outward would be the avionics in the nose.This highly electrically charged and filled with all manner of different elements bunch of components would have a varied burn signature.

The various colored burning elements would be at the outside of the fireball,being the first and lightest expelled,and so would be what was seen.

Just like the jet vs block of concrete vid shows a dust cloud that looks like the jet was reduced to atoms only,all dust,that is an illusion due to the obscuring of the heavy stuff by that which pulverized first and which led the cloud outward.After the dust settled,the engine and heavy parts reveal themselves to view,dust covered maybe,but still there.

What we see is a singular fireball,looking exactly like a missile blast.So this is another question.

Originally posted by daddio
reply to post by 1SawSomeThings

 

That bottom picture you posted, the top of the building is heading in a different direction. HOW, HOW in the freakin world did it not continue on it's path and topple over? Only a vacuum from the core of the building could have kept that HUGE chunk of building from toppling off. Simple Physics, Newton. The three laws.

[edit on 16-2-2010 by daddio]

You are "right on" about the chunk of the building which fell in one direction and didn't continue.

There are many other questions that are not answered by the "truth" or the "conspiracy" side.

Like: How did three building fall due to fire -- in one day -- when no high-rise building has ever fallen due to fire before?

Like: How did the three buildings implode perfectly -- when no other high-rise has ever done that?

Like: How did the implosions take place at "free fall" speed?

Like: Where did the energy come from to turn the buildings to dust?

If 911 event can't be explained by the laws of physics -- it is a miracle.

THE 911 Event was an act of god. Didn't happen due to the planes. Didn't happen due to a conspiracy.

Originally posted by Brydaws
I hate to say it, but the "truther's" are making a much better case than the "truster's". As a person who doesn't know what to think about the whole thing, it just seems the truthers are making better points and and the trusters are just igrnoring things and name calling. I've always been told that you only start insulting people when you start losing a debate.

This post says it all.

obvious lie is obvious.

Originally posted by JPhish

Originally posted by Brydaws
I hate to say it, but the "truther's" are making a much better case than the "truster's". As a person who doesn't know what to think about the whole thing, it just seems the truthers are making better points and and the trusters are just igrnoring things and name calling. I've always been told that you only start insulting people when you start losing a debate.

This post says it all.

obvious lie is obvious.

It doesn't "say it all" -- what a dumb thing to say.

Answer this:

There are many other questions that are not answered by the "truth" or the "conspiracy" side.

Like: How did three building fall due to fire -- in one day -- when no high-rise building has ever fallen due to fire before?

Like: How did the three buildings implode perfectly -- when no other high-rise has ever done that?

Like: How did the implosions take place at "free fall" speed?

Like: Where did the energy come from to turn the buildings to dust?

If 911 event can't be explained by the laws of physics -- it is a miracle.

THE 911 Event was an act of god. Didn't happen due to the planes. Didn't happen due to a conspiracy.

Originally posted by etcorngods

Originally posted by JPhish

Originally posted by Brydaws
I hate to say it, but the "truther's" are making a much better case than the "truster's". As a person who doesn't know what to think about the whole thing, it just seems the truthers are making better points and and the trusters are just igrnoring things and name calling. I've always been told that you only start insulting people when you start losing a debate.

This post says it all.

obvious lie is obvious.

It doesn't "say it all" -- what a dumb thing to say.

What???

Answer this:

There are many other questions that are not answered by the "truth" or the "conspiracy" side.

which is why we demand an investigation.

Like: How did three building fall due to fire -- in one day -- when no high-rise building has ever fallen due to fire before?

probably because they didn’t collapse from fires.

Like: How did the three buildings implode perfectly -- when no other high-rise has ever done that?

they didn’t implode, they exploded.

Like: How did the implosions take place at "free fall" speed?

implosions do not fall, objects fall. The building fell at near free fall speed in the direction of most resistance because it was likely a controlled demolition.

Like: Where did the energy come from to turn the buildings to dust?

Probably the explosives.

If 911 event can't be explained by the laws of physics -- it is a miracle.

I’ve always said that if a bunch of amatuers with box cutters really pulled off the attack; then they MUST have Allah on their side because there is no other way the events on 9-11 are possible unless there was divine intervention in their favor.

THE 911 Event was an act of god. Didn't happen due to the planes. Didn't happen due to a conspiracy.

I don’t believe that, but if you do, fine.

If 9-11 were an act of God like you claim, then that also means the OS is essentially a lie. Because the OS doesn't say “God is on the "terrorists’" side and performed miracles to bend the laws of psychics in their favor.”

Thanks for agreeing that the OS is a lie in your own warped little way.

[edit on 2/17/2010 by JPhish]

Originally posted by JPhish
If you believe that, fine. I don’t believe that. However, mind you, if 9-11 was an act of god, then obviously God is on the “terrorists” side.

If 9-11 were an act of God like you claim, then that also means the OS is essentially a lie. Because the OS never said “God is on the "terrorists’" side and performed miracles to bend the laws of psychics in their favor.”

Thanks for agreeing that the OS is a lie in your own warped little way.

ET's communicate with man using words, numbers, dates, etc. The date 911/2001/AD converts to the word "Religion"
.
The 911 implosion was (is) a warning against Religion and the crooks on Wall Street.

I have worked with the ET's for 25 years on a daily basis.

Do you always say that people who don't agree with you are "warped"?

None of your answers satisfy me, or the Physics of the situation. Are you an engineer?

[edit on 17-2-2010 by etcorngods]

"Police and the FBI completed a grid search of area streets near the site of the World Trade Center looking for clues, said Barry Mawn, director of New York's FBI office.

The searchers found several clues, he said, but would not elaborate. Last week, a passport belonging to one of the hijackers was found in the vicinity of Vesey Street, near the World Trade Center. "It was a significant piece of evidence for us," Mawn said."

archives.cnn.com...

The miracle indestructible passport was allegedly found on Vesey Street, to the rear of the alleged aircraft which allegedly crashed into the tower.

How can a passport travel backwards when it was situated on an airplane traveling at allegedly 500 MPH? Wouldn't this passport travel forward from the plane's momentum alone? If this passport was found, it should have been located well south of Vesey Street.

Didn't a piece of landing gear from the plane allegedly land well south of Vesey Street? At least the officials weren't stupid enough to claim that the landing gear also landed on Vesey Street, behind the area of impact.

Sorry for my redundant use of the word alleged. However that is what the events of 9/11 are: many allegations which have yet to be proven.

1. How did Rudy G. know that the towers would collapse beforehand? We've all seen the video of this heroic character walking uptown and saying this to the media. He sure as hell made it a point to stay away from his Building 7 bunker.

2. Why no victims' families lawsuits in regards to 9/11? The one person who was pursuing a lawsuit (Beverly Eckert) died in the Buffalo plane crash last year.

3. Why does all the mainstream media not only agree 100% with the official fairy tale, but have done nothing to investigate it? It couldn't be that they were accomplices (willing or unwilling), could it now?

4. Why didn't the insurance companies challenge coverage and investigate Larry "Pull It" Silverstein for insurance fraud when he stated on video that the best thing to do was "pull Building 7"? Instead, they gave him a lightning quick settlement for more than double of what he paid for Building 7. Now you know who to thank for your insurance rates going up astronomically since 9/11. Hey, someone has to pay for Lucky Larry hitting the jackpot.

5. Why was it only the Silverstein properties which miraculously collapsed on that day? There were other buildings which sustained much more damage than Building 7 and did not collapse.

If you believe the official story, you are part of the problem, not the solution.

Originally posted by trueforger
reply to post by TwoPhish

 

Blow a hole as opposed to crash an airliner,Hmmm
The hole only existed for a short while.If an airplane actually did the deed the Pentacon would not have had a single hole caused by fusilage,rather two engine holes,two wing fuel tank blasts and the belly tank blast.The whole wall would have been knocked in,in similar pattern to the towers,albeit different from the reinforced concrete,but the whole plane would have made it's mark,not a hole.Missile,on the other hand,would do nothing BUT what we saw.Which brings up another question,wasn't there DU radiation detected around the five sided crime scene?

No this was just like Lucky Larry,Patron Saint of the Truster Religion,saying,"Pull IT." not Pull THEM as the firefighters were long gone from the building,waiting on the countdown.

I stand by my analysis.For a Dick like Cheney(see what I did there?Sorry to any Richards out there)having a taste of UberPower,now all he can do is continue showing that he did it and got away with it by leaking these tidbits.Insult on injury.He'll do more unless he is heart attack-ed,like Casey,then he'll get the blame,also like Casey.We never learn.

Lemme me preface this by sayin' "I am on your side" however....I think you're reading too much into that statement. Who cares really? We have enough 'spot on' inconsistencies to deal with like Rumsfeld saying "Shot down" and Bush claiming to have seen the first plane...etc!

A hole is a hole. Most know it wasn't a passenger plane. It's still a hole. I don't have enough patience to tear that statement apart. Like I said, who cares? It's a itsy bitsy insignificant piece of that day. It really makes no difference and what we don't need are 'quotes' and/or 'events' that are speculative. It can be taken out of context and misinterpreted

We have enough solid things to present to a new committee.

Prior inside (put option) stock trading for instance. Now, that's big. Hell even Martha Steward did time for that. That's unexplainable. They can't say that was coincidental although..........they will.

How about Rice warning (who was it? The mayor from San Fran?) not to fly that day?
And how about.......Bin Laden saying he had nothing to do with it?

I will debate this forever but I gotta be honest, it's exhausting. I know what I know and that is...........9-11 was NOTHING like what we were told. It's a lie and liars lie about lying so..........it's a vicious cycle!



[edit on 17-2-2010 by TwoPhish]

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by network dude
Now, since you obviously have the physics expertise to explain to me why this chunk didn't tople over and leave the rest of the building there, I would sleep much better tonight.

It started to topple because one side failed first, due to aircraft damage and the fires. However, after it started falling due to one side falling first, the building beneath it was not strong enough to stop a moving mass od several thousand tonnes, so it then started falling straight down.

To think that it would keep toppling what would it pivot on? You can see from the picture that as well as tilting it is also falling vertically

falling? no, it was stationary. It couldn't fall anywhere. It had a big friggin building underneath it. I don't know anything for sure, see I fix computers, I am not an engineer, but all the weight seems like it has to be on the left side. (the side it's leaning toward) and if so, most of the weight would be transfered away from the other side. So with little weight on that side, what made it keep falling? Gravity would force it to continue in the direction it was traveling, which would be left and down. As you said, it was real heavy. I just can't wrap my head around that. If the building was so weak that it couldn't hold up that much weight, how did it stand for so many years? And finally, it we are going to start discussing the fires weakening the structure to the point of collapse, then I think we have discovered a fool proof way of controlled demolition for future buildings.

I have a proposition for you. Since you are a structural engineer, and I am a wiring guy, how about we start a company doing demolition on sky scrapers. We could get in and out in a few hours, plant some fuel containers on a few floors, any floors, obviously it doesn't really matter, and light it up. within what, 3 hours, the building should fall into it's own footprint and bang, we're rich bitch! what do you think? You in?

Originally posted by dereks
To think that it would keep toppling what would it pivot on? You can see from the picture that as well as tilting it is also falling vertically

Hmmm. This is a rather curious thing to say. It would not need a pivot point to topple, slide, continue in its path. It did need a pivot point to tilt though. What was it pivoting on?

Let us not tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories.

Star and Flag just for keeping this topic alive

Never forget the day we found out just how far "the powers that be" will go,
Peace to all you truthers out there, stay safe !!

Originally posted by chupa-chups
Star and Flag just for keeping this topic alive

Never forget the day we found out just how far "the powers that be" will go,
Peace to all you truthers out there, stay safe !!

What a silly thing to say. Who do you think the "powers that be" are? How far did they go? The truthers use junk science to justify their statements. 911 was due to an act of GOD/ET/UFO -- that's the only explanation that makes any sense.

reply to post by etcorngods


Either way, you are agreeing that the OS is a lie.

Thanks, we need nothing more from you, for that is all that we've been saying.

Originally posted by downisreallyup
If you have any other questions that you can add to the list I have started, please add them so that we can begin to see in one place just how large the list is, and why so many are having a hard time being TRUSTERS in the official story.

Interesting questions downisreally, here are some more.

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Originally posted by spacevisitor

Originally posted by downisreallyup
If you have any other questions that you can add to the list I have started, please add them so that we can begin to see in one place just how large the list is, and why so many are having a hard time being TRUSTERS in the official story.

Interesting questions downisreally, here are some more.

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Congratulations on encapsulating just about every totally debunked bit of trutherism in one post. A useful reference.

reply to post by etcorngods

ET's communicate with man using words, numbers, dates, etc. The date 911/2001/AD converts to the word "Religion".
The 911 implosion was (is) a warning against Religion and the crooks on Wall Street.
I have worked with the ET's for 25 years on a daily basis.
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What a silly thing to say. Who do you think the "powers that be" are? How far did they go? The truthers use junk science to justify their statements. 911 was due to an act of GOD/ET/UFO -- that's the only explanation that makes any sense.

"Truthers use "junk science" to justify calling for a new 9/11 investigation???!!!
Since you attack in that way, may I bring up:
You bring nothing useful to the debate when you talk about "GOD/ET/UFO", along with your prior posts (contact w/ aliens etc.). In fact, you give MSM types like Beck (et al) the opportunity to attack 9/11 truth via setting the movement up for a Reductio Ad Absurdum propaganda attack, combined with "Guilt by Association". They read and report on what is said in various forums, including 9/11 truth being associated with Nazis and terrorists...You are helping them...
Please bring something useful to the debate.