Looking for people who have been to the grey room

Originally posted by Surprised to be Here
Humans are instinctively preparing, but so, probably, are other species. So why not add into this equation non-Earthly life? In that sense we are also being prepared. There are lots of examples of animals behaving oddly before major events and I have wondered if we are picking up on something they already sense.
For some people this is as strong as the Grey Room experience, for others it comes in recurrent night and day dreams or, like me, simple awareness of IT (like I can smell it) coupled with significant changes in habitual activities and interests.
This much I know, if people like me are affected, then far more sensitive people and animals must be zinging with awareness.

Interesting how you would compare this to an animal instinctual event. Yes, I know it. I cannot explain how I know it. I have knowings AND theories as to what may be happening, but I know that nothing is definite. The future changes. I KNOW massive tsunamis/floods will occur along both coast of the U.S. I THEORIZE there will be a pole shift. I FEEL concern about Yellowstone and the area around it. I KNOW higher altitudes are preferable, but not everywhere. I KNOW my place is safe, but not other parts of the state and I cannot explain why.

I guess this is how animals feel. They just know when it is time to hibernate or migrate. I feel the same way. Nice way to put it, Surprised! I would not have said it that way, but it makes perfect sense to me. Thanks!

Originally posted by NotThat
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Earth is a garden. If I had a garden I would harvest before the frost.
What if the ships are about harvesting us.
Perhaps we are better off staying and living through whatever changes come.

NotThat, I honestly don't know what to believe. My FEELINGS tell me I want to be on the ship. My KNOWING tells me one person will be rejected so not everyone will be able to go. My view is if they reject one, they reject all. I'm not going then.

I really don't think I'm going on the ship. I think we lost that chance already. Perhaps we're rejects because we can hear too well. Actually, I think it works in a different way. They need thinkers/hearers back on the planet to survive and keep things going. It think that's us. The adventurer in me would like to go to another planet, but the adventurer in me would also like to stick around on Earth and make a go out of starting things over. It's sort of a win-win, don't you think?

Originally posted by mellisamouse

I feel the same..... I only rember pure WHITE light, no grey, and I only rember one guy with pure white hair, even though I remember the sense of many many more.... I can't rember much except the same message, being a calm in the storm for sure, and about being non judgemental, non self rightious, loving, but also, fighting against the judgemental and unloving pretty much 24/7......... it can be exhausting!

Mellissamouse, welcome to the club. Yes, it's challenging being honest and loving all the time. I chuckled when I read your post. I don't know why doing that is so important, but if it's not harming others, I might as well do my best to follow that way of living.

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Jtma508, you explained my feelings to a T. I've always felt the same thing myself. You said it much better than I could. Welcome.

Originally posted by Hirotechnique
hmm. i'll choose to ignore this. I think it was just my imagination

Hirotechnique, what are you talking about? Your post was quite vague. Please elaborate.

Originally posted by NotThat

Ah, how to know which ship to enter?!
I am white haired and sick. I don't feel like an asset but believe you are right, we are.

NotThat, we'd know. Haven't we followed the Knowings this entire time? We'd get the call, just like last time. We wouldn't "miss" the ship. You already know that.

What is hard to reconcile are the two things: going on a ship vs. staying here. You have always prepared for the latter. I haven't prepared as much as you have. I don't know if preparing has to do with location, either.

I'm not going to worry about it. We will do what we must when the time is right. Of all things, I'm going to play it by ear.

Originally posted by NotThat

Originally posted by jtma508
What I have 'known' all these years is that in my lifetime 'something' was going to happen. It wasn't central to me personally but a larger, all encompassing event that would change everything. What I 'know' about this event is that it is necessary, unavoidable and will be distinctly unpleasant. But afterwards things will be much better as a result.

Something really bad, then everything will be better.
Something that hasn't happened before.
I, also, have known all my life.

Yes.

Amazing how we have all known the same thing.

Originally posted by NotThat

Originally posted by Hirotechnique
hmm. i'll choose to ignore this. I think it was just my imagination

You joined ATS to post on this thread.
Just spit it out, whatever it is you want to say. It can't be any wierder than what the rest of us have said. Go ahead. Share.

Besides, you may just find what you are looking for! Give it a shot and say what you have to say.

Originally posted by one4all
I am a solid 4:44 ,with the ocasional 3:33 if I get a little carried away.Absolutely annoying unless you work a nightshift,try taking vitamin D3,after you ask your doctor.If you google the" 4:44 waking up "like I already did you will go from religous ideas to people heading up to the mountains as I will be soon because of the coming events.

Its us somehow,surely.

I smiled when I read this. My first thought in an earlier thread was that you were heading for a cave. Now I read mountains. Be safe, wherever you go.

Yes, 3:30 or roundabouts there. I have woken up around 4:40 like you as well. I find if I stay up later, I somehow sleep through it, not always, though.

Why do you think we are waking up at such strange times?

Quite a few people feel they may have 'jobs' to do in the future and part of their preparation is connected to that, mostly based on staying here after the event happens.
I've come to the conclusion that, subject to my survival, which isn't a given, I'm staying and that my job title for now is finder. A finder/ pointer/ collector of facts, people and necessary things. At present this includes helping to find other people who belong here. And like some posters I now live two lives - the one for the public face, and the other one that takes in this thread.
In my other life you might describe my work as administering the gathering of huge amounts of info, sifting, checking and selecting, so that the patterns add up to the facts supporting truth and justice. So that's finding as well. I think this has been hypered up by the sense of knowing experience.
How strange that someone like me, who deals in solid, undeniable facts, should face such a flip of my skill and just know this all makes sense!
Amazingly, although I now sleep probably just 3 or 4 'nights' a week (and that's between 4am-ish and 8am, so avoiding the 3.30 nuisance) I have more energy than ever.
It's just gone 1.30am here, so I'm having my 'elevenses' of a croissant. While studying the universe. Or at least what our brightest humans seem to think it is.
In a few days I have to go on vacation with a group of people who only know the 'public face'. For the first time in my life I'm not looking forward to this. It's become a nuisance. Think I'm going to have to pretend to sleep until everyone else is zzzzz-ing.
Are the other knowers, wakers and insomniacs discussing this with close friends and family? I live alone and mostly socialise elsewhere, so it's easy to appear 'normal'.... whatever that is! Just how are Waiting 2, NotThat and the rest of you coping with the reaction of people so far not affected, or denying or blocking the knowing sense?

[edit on 12-5-2010 by Surprised to be Here]

Originally posted by Waiting2

I have no bags packed this time (yet!), but I have prepared supplies. I have no idea why I need them. If I was leaving on the ship these things would be unnecesary. I think some of the difficulties will happen before the ships come.

Yea, things will be hard, then the ships will come.

Originally posted by Waiting2
What is hard to reconcile are the two things: going on a ship vs. staying here. You have always prepared for the latter. I haven't prepared as much as you have. I don't know if preparing has to do with location, either.

I will be taken somewhere safe. Where, when, and by whom are all questions.

I prepare for the time before I am taken somewhere safe.

God, aliens, future humans, another country's army - I don't know.

Some close family know. I don't usually talk about this with other people. My job is one where I cannot appear to be too weird. However, I have found creative ways to mention kindness and survival issues to other people.

You mentioned your job is a finder. I think you will find that most people, like me, don't want to be found. I think I know what you mean, though.

Or in a better sense, we want to know that there are other people out there like ourselves who exist because THAT comforts us. However, we know it is safer and wiser not to know about the others. ATS is a great venue where we can talk, share ideas, and still remain anonymous.

When we talked about two lives, I guess we weren't clear enough.
Life 1: I have a normal job with numerous responsibilities. I have a family. I watch tv, attend sporting events, and hang out with friends. I am successful and happy.

Life 2: I am preparing for a disaster. I am trying to appreciate everything because eventually all of it will go away. I have visions of a difficult/interesting future. I hear a voice that tells me to do things to prepare.

All I want to do is concentrate on Life #2. It is hard to balance two things that take up much of your time. Each separately could take up ALL my time. It's not that I don't love my family, but it takes longer to get things done with people who aren't living Life #2 with you. I live a dual life and try to give attention to both sides. I hope that makes better sense to you.

As for the conference, don't bother pretending. I think you'll find that many people are insomniacs. That's why we see so many commercials on tv for sleeping drugs!

[edit on 13-5-2010 by Waiting2]

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The room I remember was reached after a long and intense period of meditation and it came as a big shock as one moment I am surfing this sound between my ears, zeroing relentlessly like a guided missile into the centre of this sound. The sound had an overpowering intensity that felt like the tip of a needle but not uncomfortable, rather it zoomed in like a fractal spiral, never reaching an end and the sound just went on and on. This is the same sound you hear when you lie down in total silence and you begin to hear a pitching keen.

Do not mistake this for tinnitus it is not tinnitus because it is something else entirely.

“Bam” I find myself suddenly connected to not hundreds but to what I perceived as being thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of people, people who had broken through via meditation and found themselves sharing this realm together. It was as if I had just stepped from one world of keening high pitched silence into a world like the London underground. It was a world of voices and joy, confusion and people making incredulous noises at each other, asking each other what this is, why this is here and what does it all mean. Lots of, “WOW this is crazy hello is this real?”

I am not aware of people carrying things as you mention in your OP (I do not think so) as I was more focused on the getting over the shock and I wanted to get a feel for the intelligences within this space. It was abstracted and the only thing for sure was the multitudes of people that consisted of only two types. They were the incredulous and nonstop yammerers all trying to be heard above each other and the much less in number that milled among them. These others, the calm explainers I felt like they were teachers and trying to serve a real purpose but being overwhelmed by the sheer number of people.

These "others" seemed to be very happy to be overwhelmed as I recall and amused at the confusion. Anyway they were very different and even then I suspected that unless I was nuts then these others were extraterrestrials but I did not come right out and vocalise this into the noise because the idea felt silly.

Actually I think that perhaps we are not thinking of the same thing because the room I found myself in was more a vast concave cavern and though the notion of a grey expanse is in my memory I cannot be sure I saw lights as it was pretty much hazy and seen as if through cataracts. My main senses in this place were my mind and in seeing and hearing I used my mind and not my eyes or ears. It is difficult to express this in a way I can adequately describe but is as best as I can manage right now.

I do not know how long I stayed here but when the mediation ended I was cold, aware of a fizzing numbness in my extremities and I felt extremely sad to be back in the room and in the dark with my dog breathing heavily at the bottom of the bed.
Now to read the rest of the thread (yikes).

Note: I know I have missed out much from this experience but that tends to be how it works when you try to recall a deep and highly successful meditative experience.

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SmokeJaguar67, that place is NOT the grey room we are describing. However, it IS indeed a place. NotThat calls it the "River of Power." I call it the "River."

Yes, millions and millions of voices separate yet together. All knowledge. Anything you've ever wanted to know was answered immediately for you until you felt happy, complete. Endless. Vast. Pure joy. Love. A feeling of completeness, oneness with everything/everyone. You can't see people around you, everything is white/foggy like, but you feel them all around you, hear them all around you. I believe everyone who lived and lives and will live is there. I'm not sure if NotThat feels the same thing--that is my own belief.

After experiencing the "River", I realized we all all truly connected to each other. We are ourselves and yet we are also a part of each other. We are a part of God, and God is a part of us. We are separate and yet One.

Perhaps this is the universal consciousness. I do not know. I DO know that it was WONDERFUL being there and that I didn't want to leave it. It was like a part of me was taken away, like I suddenly noticed an arm was gone. It was devasting to be disconnected/separated from it.

It was hard for me to have attachments to people afterwards because no person or thing was more important than another person or thing. I loved everyone and everything.

I did not get there by meditation or prayer. Suddenly I was just there. Just as suddenly I was back in "normal" life again.

I do know that NotThat was meditating and praying around this same time, but I do not know if she was doing that right before she went to the "River".

I believe most people strive through prayer to get to that place. Few people actually connect to it/go there somehow. Because I did not pray or meditate to get there, I saw it from a different perspective. I grew up Christian, but I did not connect a particular religion to this place. However, I did feel the overwhelming loving presence of God.

After I came back to "real" life, I missed the "River" tremendously. When you feel complete and that completeness is taken away, you ache for oneness again. I have never gone back. I believe I was in it simultaneously while I was in the real world. I do not know how to describe it, but I believe I was in both places for several weeks. However, I really do have no correct idea of time because that place itself transcended time. It was/is timeless.

When you have consciousness on that large of a scale all in one place, every question you've ever had could be instantly answered. That fact impressed me the most. It seemed to me that we were all tiny atoms flowing past each other in a river-like fashion. The place definitely flowed with energy. God was energy. I was energy.

I know that when I "die" I will go back there. That comforts me. It is like a part of me, an echo, is still there. When a family friend died, I heard her call my name in surprise. I think she saw me there in the "River." I should say "saw" because I couldn't see anyone. You could just FEEL people, billions and billions and billions of them, around you.

To blow your mind a little further....I believe I received special abilities after I left the "River" and came back to "real" life. I think going there somehow awoke things in me that I was already capable of doing. Like parts of me were unlocked somehow.

I know I looked different. I felt different. Sort of flat. When you're complete and perfect and whole and suddenly half a person again, it feels weird getting used to. (That's QUITE an understatement!) After I came back, I somehow still had a strong connection for a while. Utter strangers would come up to me and tell me their life stories. I was able to literally see inside people and find the root of their utter sadness. I would say a few words and somehow fix it. This knowledge of the person would come instantly and flee just as fast. I knew I was doing it, but I would not remember what I said afterwards. Some people would cry. Some would hug me. Some would come back later and thank me profusely for what I said. Again, I would remember talking to them and would have a vague idea of what was said, but not fully. It was as if the gift was only for that person, not for me. I think I was somehow channeling that universal knowledge...either I remembered it or it just triggered occasionally. I don't know. It was an unusual skill to say the least.

I have turned much of that off over the years. It is hard to maintain a normal life when you can look inside people all the time. I know that I can probably access that again, but I choose not to....for now. It is just one of the skills I was given.

This has nothing to do with the Grey Room, and yet it has everything to do with the Grey Room. I went to the "River" before I went to the Grey Room. I believe they are somehow connected.

I was not particularly religious. Unlike you, I was not outwardly searching for any of this. I just came to me. It changed my life and my view of life forever.

I have written sometimes of my difficulties in expressing these things. What do you call a place like that? What exactly does it look like? It's not like we have vocabularly for that kind of place. I'm sure you had the same problem when you wrote your post. It is totally outside our realm of understanding!

NotThat and I talked about it and described it until we were able to find a common word "River." She likes "River of Power." Honestly, I don't think the Power word fits there, too strong, to manly of a connotation. If I'd call it the river of something, I'd probably call it the "River of Energy." That's pretty close. To me, it's just easy to call it "River." The place flowed. I flowed. Everything/one around me flowed. I was part of something greater than myself, but I was still myself.

So yes, I know EXACTLY what you are referring to. It's an amazing place, isn't it?

Let us know if you start experiencing unusual abilities. If you do, my theory that it somehow awakens us will be true. Thanks for sharing! Keep in touch!

not sure if anyone here has mentioned it yet...i have not seen the film, but in KNOWING, the end of the world is directly preceded by an OIL RIG DISASTER.

Even creepier for me personally, in high school a good friend of mine and I started what would go on to be a decades-long ongoing inside joke (not really a joke, hard to explain) about the date October 19th. I don't even remember how it started exactly or if i was making it up randomly to be dramatic, but i said something was going to happen on October 19th (she was in the hospital at the time and it worried her). Nothing happened of course (she made a full recovery btw), and every year since we keep in touch partly due to the inside "joke" we have about October 19th.

Well in reading a synopsis of KNOWING, i guess the world ends on October 19th in the film? And they make some sort of big deal about hammering home that date specifically????

Great, just great.....i guess i need to see the movie LOL

-oleus

[edit on 14-5-2010 by oleus]

It's funny..... most people in this thread I almost read as one person, or the same energy signature, if that makes any sense.....while in other threads I feel each person differently.....

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I am curious about your avitar. You seem to have an enity behind/next to/connected to you.

Do you have an invisable attached energy/enity?

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In one of the Star Trek movies Woopie Goldberg's character goes to the river of power. I don't remember which movie.

Originally posted by oleus
not sure if anyone here has mentioned it yet...i have not seen the film, but in KNOWING, the end of the world is directly preceded by an OIL RIG DISASTER.

Well in reading a synopsis of KNOWING, i guess the world ends on October 19th in the film? And they make some sort of big deal about hammering home that date specifically????

I don't remember the oil rig disaster or the October date. I was too shocked by how the movie echoed my life.

Project Camelot said that the date was October 2011. On George Uri's site he showed a fractal chart of the I Ching and it hit zero for the first time in October 2012. (I don't really understand this but you can Google I Ching fractal). Half Past Human is saying that there will be a big war around October/November. Perhaps there is something to the October 19th date.