Natalee Holloway: The Case Reviewed

reply to post by TheMythLives

It doesn't look like a skeleton to me, but I may be wrong.

If it is then that place must not have any strong currents.

reply to post by ArMaP


Doesn't look like one to me either, ArMaP. It looks like ocean impedimenta (can't find the right word -- how about "junk"? ) Ocean junk that is naturally shaped into an outline that is somewhat humanish. --
That "matrixing" pheno at work, the mind looking for the human form.

OT: So funny when jkrog said it's been a while since he "obliterated" anybody. lol. Cute.

But definitely Myth, they need to take a look and retrieve it if in fact it is a skeleton. Do some testing.

[edit on 3/19/2010 by ladyinwaiting]

Everyone should check out this thread:

BREAKING: Natalie Holloway Suspect Joran Van Der Sloot Accused of Peru Murder

It tells the story of how Vander Sloot is once again a prime suspect in a murder.... Excellent thread Mdv2! Be sure to star and flag it.

Originally posted by TheMythLives
When Natalee was discovered missing, the seven chaperones called Beth Hollway and told her that her daughter was missing. Beth immediately knew that something was wrong. She called her husband and the two made arrangements to fly out Aruba on the same day. When they landed they discovered the names of the three men that Natalee was last seen with. Beth went on the offensive, like any good mother would do, and demanded to know where her daughter was. She marched up to the house of Paulus Van Der Sloot, a high ranking official in the Aruba and with a photograph in hand demanded, "Tell me where my daughter is!"

How did she obtain the names of the three suspects? I read that Mrs. Holloway spoke to the hotel manager at the Holiday Inn which is where Natalee and her fellow graduates stayed. The manager somehow knew of Joran Van Der Sloot (slot him) and passed on the information to Mrs. Holloway.

Originally posted by TheMythLives
Problem 4: Natalee was not a party animal and her friends and mother all state that she would never go anywhere with a stranger. What changed that night? Was it Joran that drugged her drink? And if he did why would he not mention that important detail while giving up all the other important details to Patrick?

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Problem 8: Natalee did not appear drunk according to multiple witnesses.

Natalee briefly dances with her ex-boyfriend Jeremy Brown. Jeremy does not think she is drunk (DZNH)

Bartender Carlos Medina observes that Natalee does not seem drunk, and that she looks very happy (DZNH).

As Ruth departs she sees Joran and Natalee talking and waves, Natalee waves back. Ruth does not think Natalee looks drunk (DZNH).

To appear drunk and actually being intoxicated are two separate things. She got into the car with three strangers which was out-of-character for Natalee. Furthermore, as pointed out in this article:

48 Hours

She and her peers enjoyed a lot of alcoholic drinks. First of all, three of her best friends were Liz Cain, Mallie Tucker and Claire Fierman. The article says the following:

The legal drinking age on Aruba is only 18, and even that is not strictly enforced, making the island a preferred vacation spot for American teenagers. No one disputes that Natalee and many of her classmates drank alcohol during their senior trip. But the authorities tell 48 Hours they have evidence that Natalee’s drinking got seriously out of control and may even have contributed to her death.

(Beth Holloway) "You know she was 18 years old. She was on her senior trip. They were in this establishment of legal age," she says. "I'm certain they were drinking. We never even tried to say that they weren't, you know. But I have to ask myself, you know, 'Should that cost her life?' No. It shouldn't."

Police interviews with hotel staff, local bartenders, and her friends reveal that Natalee had spent much of the day with a drink in her hand.

However...

"Do you know if Natalee could handle her alcohol?" Roberts asked.

"Yes," said Cain. "She was never somebody to be out of control if she had been drinking at all."

"When you hear stories, like people started drinking in mid-afternoon and drank through the night. Does that sound accurate?" Roberts asked.

"Yes," Claire Fierman said.

Nonetheless..

Fierman and Cain agreed that the drinking was kind of excessive.

TheMythLives I have to congratulate you on a thoroughly well-written and exquisitely researched piece there. I feel that the sex trade connection is a red herring and one falsely planted by Van Der Snot (sic) as he seems to favour misdirection and spinning a web of lies. However, I do feel strongly that you're spot-on when it comes to Van Der Snot having been assisted by someone else with considerable 'clout'. A person who was quite influential on the island of Aruba and managed to safeguard Van Der Snot from facing any conviction by 'pulling some strings'.

I know by showing you this programme, we're going into very speculative territory. However, I really feel that it points us in the right direction. It's the 'Haunting Evidence" programme with the excellent Carla Baron and John J. Oliver who are the psychics. Even if you're extremely sceptical of their alleged (1) abilities, I urge you to watch the programme. It's split into six segments. I believe they reach some findings which do corroborate much of what you've said. In particular the part about Natalee being drugged. Such a potent mix of drugs and alcohol would make anyone feel sick/disoriented.



1. I do believe they are genuine and gifted but to imply or state their abilities as fact is disputable given the difficult nature of proving such claimed abilities.

Saw in the news Joran Vanderkiller contacted Natalee's mom for 250k in exchange for daughters where abouts.

WTF?>.........

Great reporting TML!

another fine thread..

Hopefully, one day,

we will get closure on this story...