John Lear 2007 "Disclosures" already known to G.H.REES from the 80's

Originally posted by OzWeatherman

Originally posted by CoolBlackHole
Resorting to the tried "find-a-tiny-fly-in-the-soup-then-discredit-the-whole"-disinfo-tactics? YAAAAAAAAAWN.

Resorting to the disinfo-deflection-pathetic-allegations tactic?
YAAAAAAAAAWN

Resorting to another lame tactic, the tactic of name calling ("pathetic")?
No, YOUR tactics are "pathetic".

[edit on 13-2-2010 by CoolBlackHole]

Originally posted by CoolBlackHole

Originally posted by OzWeatherman

Originally posted by CoolBlackHole
Resorting to the tried "find-a-tiny-fly-in-the-soup-then-discredit-the-whole"-disinfo-tactics? YAAAAAAAAAWN.

Resorting to the disinfo-deflection-pathetic-allegations tactic?
YAAAAAAAAAWN

Resorting to another lame tactic, the tactic of name calling ("pathetic")?
No, YOUR tactics are "pathetic".

[edit on 13-2-2010 by CoolBlackHole]

Well, you started it

reply to post by OzWeatherman

Originally posted by OzWeatherman
.... Well, you started it

Sorry, there was a misunderstanding from my side, as I initially thought you were rejecting only the idea of an (alleged) “helium bomb” prior to 1950, but acknowledging the existence of a helium bomb after 1950 (“Is this the same GH REES that claimed there was a helium bomb prior to 1950, which was clearly disproven by a real physicist on ATS?")

I read up on that G.H.REES stuff, and now understand you meant:

1. The idea of a “helium bomb” is stupid in general.
I agree. The helium bomb is (actually) a joke.

2. I also agree with you in this respect:

Originally posted by OzWeatherman
…. Well sorry. When people start claiming they are a re-establishing an ultra powerful hellenic organisation, thorugh an Andromedian portal, and they are trying to get into contact with andromedians and sirians, to protect us form the impending dragonian attack, code named, armageddon in 2012 thus returning us to pre lunar golden era civilisation....then Im inclined not to believe anything that comes out off this website.

(from: www.abovetopsecret.com... )

That whole G.H.REES stuff is of course stupid (but not John Lear; which they obviously try to mix up; confusing at first sight). As a matter of fact the “hellenic re-establishment” group website is (intentionally) hilariously stupid, even a nonsense artwork.
(For instance hellenandchaos.blogspot.com...).


[edit on 14-2-2010 by CoolBlackHole]

Soul-catching machines? C'mon....Anyone who believes this man isn't thinking clearly. This guy no doubt has probably seen a few UFO-type planes in his work but I think he's a charlatan trying to induce his own takes on what a few of his "friends" may or may not have told him. No thank you.

I don't believe anything this Lear guy said, nor will I ever fly on a Lear jet

I've heard of no other stories that correlate with anything he has ever said. I've also read countless stories debunking his work and even listening to the man speak in any youtube video shows how full of it he is. I just have never taken him seriously, nor ever will.

Originally posted by AceOfAces
Soul-catching machines? C'mon....Anyone who believes this man isn't thinking clearly.

He calls it a "soul re-router" now.

Last week he called into Dark Matters Radio and started going through his crazy theories when Don Ecker stopped him and said: ''You know, You are sounding just about as crazy as Bill Cooper'' (or words to that effect). John Lear got him to say it twice.

Then the host cut his line. It was funny.




[edit on 14-2-2010 by Exuberant1]

Originally posted by CoolBlackHole
reply to post by OzWeatherman

 

Originally posted by OzWeatherman
.... Well, you started it

Sorry, there was a misunderstanding from my side, as I initially thought you were rejecting only the idea of an (alleged) “helium bomb” prior to 1950, but acknowledging the existence of a helium bomb after 1950 (“Is this the same GH REES that claimed there was a helium bomb prior to 1950, which was clearly disproven by a real physicist on ATS?")

I read up on that G.H.REES stuff, and now understand you meant:

1. The idea of a “helium bomb” is stupid in general.
I agree. The helium bomb is (actually) a joke.

2. I also agree with you in this respect:

Originally posted by OzWeatherman
…. Well sorry. When people start claiming they are a re-establishing an ultra powerful hellenic organisation, thorugh an Andromedian portal, and they are trying to get into contact with andromedians and sirians, to protect us form the impending dragonian attack, code named, armageddon in 2012 thus returning us to pre lunar golden era civilisation....then Im inclined not to believe anything that comes out off this website.

(from: www.abovetopsecret.com... )

That whole G.H.REES stuff is of course stupid (but not John Lear; which they obviously try to mix up; confusing at first sight). As a matter of fact the “hellenic re-establishment” group website is (intentionally) hilariously stupid, even a nonsense artwork.
(For instance hellenandchaos.blogspot.com...).


[edit on 14-2-2010 by CoolBlackHole]

We'll see who is stupid and who is not in the near future. Don't worry about that my dear hebrewsaxon.
By the way nice picture of your megafraud hebrew pseudoscientist you have. The poor one tried to disprove the ether and at the same time he told that space without ether is unthinkable! LOL
Everything he could'nt establish in mathematical formulization of his stupid theory (he was poor in Math) was solved for him by the hellen excellent mathematician Karatheodori. Unfortunatelly the Hellenic earnestness helped you this time to establish pseudotheories that demand extracosmic logos. It won't happen again in the future.
In the future the blog plans to embarrash your ...idol a little.
Oh! and say hello to your rabbi teachers.

Originally posted by AceOfAces
Soul-catching machines? C'mon....Anyone who believes this man isn't thinking clearly.

www.ufowatchdog.com...

Ufo watchdog says, John Lear, coming soon to the Hall of Shame.

Apparently they don't believe him either.

And if you read his signature, you get the distinct impression he's not really sure that he believes himself:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I seek only the truth. But let me make it perfectly clear how little I think I know:
1. All of my claims are only possibilities.
2. I could be completely misinformed.
3. All of what I believe might not be true.
John Lear

[edit on 14-2-2010 by Arbitrageur]

Originally posted by skeptical2012
We'll see who is stupid and who is not in the near future. Don't worry about that my dear hebrewsaxon. By the way nice picture of your megafraud hebrew pseudoscientist you have. The poor one tried to disprove the ether and at the same time he told that space without ether is unthinkable! LOL Everything he could'nt establish in mathematical formulization of his stupid theory (he was poor in Math) was solved for him by the hellen excellent mathematician Karatheodori. Unfortunatelly the Hellenic earnestness helped you this time to establish pseudotheories that demand extracosmic logos. It won't happen again in the future. In the future the blog plans to embarrash your ...idol a little. Oh! and say hello to your rabbi teachers.

Congrats, hehe, that was entertaining. You're an excellent writer, and I mean that.

reply to post by Arbitrageur


I didn't even know he was a member. We outta invite him in and hear his take on this. It sounds like he would agree with us anyways.

I just want to know...Who makes this Soul-Catching machine..? Is it Sony? Microsoft? Does it come with a warranty?


Exuberant1 I'd love to see or hear that clip- Thats fantastic.

Originally posted by AceOfAces
reply to post by Arbitrageur

 

I didn't even know he was a member.

I think the operative word is "was" as in past tense:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It looks like he hasn't posted for 2 years as johnlear, so as someone else mentioned, either he's not here, or if he is, it's only under another, anonymous identity.

How can anybody disprove this when all the evidence that reaches out to us clearly indicate that this is true?
May I remind you all the speech of the Apollo 11 austraunalts after they first landed on the moon that drove them crazy.

"These babies were huge, sir!.... "

That and other artificial structures, space craft etc visible on the moon and currently feature on Jose Escamilla's documentary Moon Rising.



How does information about advanced civilizations here on planet Earth such as Lemuria and Atlantis reach out to us, and they vanish without a trace, do you not take in consideration that perhaps these cities just vanish after the moon entered in our orbit because of the gravitie effect relation with raising up the levels of the ocean??

And offcourse, the fact that the major elite that is rulling this world are worshiping, under tremendous ignorance, all the alien scum that exists out there.


How do you know that they do not have soul harvesting machines, or any other energy harvest unknowned to us, when you do not know what other sort of technology lies outhere in other spektrums of existence?
If they are regressive beings, they certainly do not posess any soul matrix anymore, so if they do not share any relationship with the cosmos, they must get their energy somewhere else (aka human beings).
get the full picture?
Sometimes the truth can be more stranger than fiction.





[edit on 14-2-2010 by _SilentAssassin_]

Originally posted by skeptical2012
We'll see who is stupid and who is not in the near future. Don't worry about that my dear hebrewsaxon.
By the way nice picture of your megafraud hebrew pseudoscientist you have. The poor one tried to disprove the ether and at the same time he told that space without ether is unthinkable! LOL

So you're a jew hater to?

Everything he could'nt establish in mathematical formulization of his stupid theory (he was poor in Math) was solved for him by the hellen excellent mathematician Karatheodori.

And where are the sources for this? Are you so clouded by your own ignorance, that you cant see that the scientific formulas the claims these guys make are completetly unrealistic? Or maybe you are shamelessly one of the websites pawns, posting here to advertise it....which is against ATS T & C's. You do seem to reference it every single chance you get, and I think this thread nmakes it the fourth time.


For the record, Jone Lear doesnt post here anymore and his theories are almost as ridiculous as the ones pt forward by GH Rees.

Its seems no matter what one person says, GH Rees has to post that they were first, or that they know more than everyone else, when in reality its an entire interent scam.....i pity your gullibility

reply to post by SaturnFX


I think you can find Lear on the Open Minds forum, he got his own board there. Latest thread i read with Lear answering was about the NASA SOHO/Stereo images of the sun, interesting as always.

Link: lucianarchy.proboards.com...

Human awakening is “liberation from the moon.”
I hope they get them out of here soon.
But offcourse, once you are a regressive being, you do not have any pathway to evolve except on f****** other beings, and spreading themselfs as a cancer trough out the Universe.

reply to post by _SilentAssassin_



There is a speck of light in all, even those who feed off negativity and suffering, and cannot access the Universal Energy or light for sustenance. We need to help heal duality.

Ho'onoponopono is wonderful tool.

Also, to see them, see the small light in them an turn to the Most High, or what you beleive in as the Force or Highest Good, and pour in the light to see, like the Grinch, that their heart grows 3X bigger.

And we need to work at ourselves. As a mirror, the negative is mirroring what we are manifesting. We poison our gardens, to harm insects, they poision our skies, the things we enable in our hearts they enable economically and politically in the world, so we also need to do cleaning and clearing and raise our consciousness.




[edit on 14-2-2010 by Unity_99]

Okay I admit I never read all the links or watch any of the videos.
(no one can blame me, this is pretty silly)

Do they even try to prove what they are saying ?
All I read was .. err.. extraordinary claims.

This page is so bad,
myweb.tiscali.co.uk...

If John was spreading this garbage, I am happy he is no longer around ATS.

Saying Nasa faked the moon landing, or There are 38 levels above top secret I can understand (sort of) ...But WTF is up with soul eating alien creators of life on earth ? Anyone got a some ""detailed" information on this ?

Originally posted by rhines
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

I think you can find Lear on the Open Minds forum, he got his own board there. Latest thread i read with Lear answering was about the NASA SOHO/Stereo images of the sun, interesting as always.

Link: Remove, I in no way support people reading John Lear's B.S

Thanks I got a cool new sig quote from that link

I'm not really one to disregard any theories or hypothesizes, made on the same grounds as the things that I believe without facts to prove them, but claiming them to be factual is a whole other story.

I mean, seriously skeptical2012, not only does your name horribly mislead us readers, but you're also resorting to namecalling with the 'hebrewsaxon'-stuff. What's up with that? Some famous tactician said that a good offense is great and all, but when resorting to personal attacks in an argument you've already lost.

How can someone even remotely trust or agree someone who argues like that, or even a site who makes these outright ridiculous claims with nonsensical "science" to back it up? Judge your sources people.

I'm beginning to adopt the same mindset as the government when it comes to withholding information from the general public as people testify these outright alarming levels of gullibility.

P.S: I'm not saying your post is wrong, I'm just saying that your methods are stupid.

Hey all,

John's a master-mind of his own blurry vision, less William Engish's stuff and WE disappearance.

John's a revolving door. He'll tell you the truth sometimes, leek to You other times and try to correct your spelling the rest of the time.
He always wants an advantage.

He's not a good man. He's a liar and wants attention. He's knowledgeable about UFO affairs but wont tell the truth about all the # he really knows.
But that's John. Less William English, and the extreme affair Bill went through. Which is collaborated to me through Wendelle Stevens (first-hand). btw: Wendelle knows his stuff -- big time.

Want to read John's stuff?, see Project Camelot's multi-part intrview with Lear. At some point you either believe, throw-up or exit?

Decoy

john lear was banned...zorgon speaks for him now.

Originally posted by joey_hv
john lear was banned...zorgon speaks for him now.

Did Zorgon tell you that?

Both Zorgon and John Lear do not post here and Lear usually speaks for himself on the forums in which he does post.

*Please post the quote where Zorgon says that he "speaks for" John Lear.