Israel,love it or hate it?

Why,do you love or hate,the country Israel?If any member has had first hand
experiences with the Israeli government or the jewish people,please tell us.I
want this thread to be a sounding board for all.Let's get all these feelings out in
the open and out of our systems once and for all! I will start...

I love Israel and the jewish people,because they are God's chosen.I don't
care if they return my love with contempt.I try my best to please God.

Answer: NEGATE it


But I don't believe you should be encouraged, considering the fact that you have REFUSED to legitimise your stance in the other thread by simply closing your eyes and ears to ALL the evidence

you have simply replied, ad nauseum: ' Ner ner ner ner ... I support israel'



Well, take a damn good LOOK at israel and what it's accomplished


MURDER

RAPE

THEFT

TORTURE

ORGAN THEFT

DESTROYED ALL HOPE OF PEACE in the Mid East

PIMPS for the US in arms deals and war mongering

THREATENS

BIG MOUTHS all over the place

LIES



and MOST of all, Israel LIES about HOW and WHY it was 'created'


NEXT of all, Judaism FORBIDS jews to live in the holy lands until the comiing of the jewish messiah. Therefore Israel is NOT a 'religious' State at all

it is an ILLEGITIMATE invader


by its own religion's reckoning

and in the eyes of the civilized world



When you KNOW the facts

and are prepared to ACKNOWLEDGE the facts


and ONLY THEN


should you initiate a thread


when you CANNOT and WILL NOT respond like an adult in the OTHER 'israel' thread


imo

I have a feeling this thread will get heated to say the least. I wish Israel was more open and did not play the whole inclusive game. I understand the last time they did that alot of people died but times have changes and they are stronger. I do like them better than the other side I would defend them they are a democracy and not run by religion.


I will say it again I wish Israel was not so Inclusive.

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reply to post by Dock9


Are not all countries guilty of the very same crimes you listed? Why single them out?

reply to post by mamabeth


This lady is a mother , a professor , a Israeli, a mother of a slain child

killed by Palestian's.

She has the right to hate them.

Watch and learn the Reality of Israel.

I don't hate anyone.

I think Dislike with a Passion is more fitting.

Israel does the same things that every country does what makes them different? Take a look at your own country and see if they have done or still do the very same things and before you post compare and contrast.


I think 90% is the about the Jew rather than Israel lets face the facts. Because if all countries do this including European countries why the hatred? What is good for the goose is good for the gander well except in the Muslim world. Am I right or am I wrong back it up with facts and before you cast a stone take a look at the countries you think are so great.

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reply to post by Subjective Truth


I have no problems with Jews...

I have a problem with the brutal oppression of 1.5 million people.

reply to post by Dock9


I started this thread so you all can rant and rave all you want.
I said in my opening post, this thread is a sounding board for
all.
If you want to call me a nutjob,it won't hurt my feelings.If you
think I should be locked in a rubber room,water off a duck's back.

I love Israel and the jewish people,because they are God's chosen.

This has to be one of the single most ignorant statements I have read in a very long time.
Really drives home the concept of "blind" faith in a powerful way.

Israel, love it or hate it?

Neither.




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I have HUGE issues with the state of Israel, and the corrupt people that funded it, as well as the corrupt way they hold power.

The only the I HATE about them though is the assertion that being against the state of israel somehow means you are against Jews or are an anti-semite.

Course, that association is not by accident.

reply to post by DaMod


I agree with you but put try and reverse the viewpoint and see it from the other side. They are both wrong they are both right. It is a hard one to see the real truth. The palestinians are not only persecuted by the Israelis look at history they are alot like the gypsies of Europe. If they where to pick and move to Jordan or Egypt you would see the same thing.

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reply to post by captaintyinknots


By your post I see no hate I see a real concern and I believe you that hate has nothing to do with it. But read some of the other posts and you hopefully you will see a pattern like I have.

A perfect example is the first reply in this thread you can feel the hate.

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reply to post by Sean48


A very good video,thank-you for your contribution.

When people are abused,over a long period of time,they usually
become abusers themselves.That is how I see Israel,lashing out
like an abused child!

reply to post by mamabeth


I think you may be on to something. If your people where almost wiped of the face of the earth and then you where placed around many countries that hate you would you not be a little protective. Real answers come form good debate and I think this is a real answer.

reply to post by mamabeth


God cast them from the holy land for worshiping a golden calf. Then they killed his only son (sure I know why). The fact that they begged God for 2000 years for a messiah just to kill him doesn't inspire much confidence.

Now they brutally oppress a group of people justifying even attacks on children. "The meek will inherit the earth" . Israel's actions in the past decade are anything but.





On a side note: Wtf is up with Youtube's new layout?

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[edit on 11-2-2010 by DaMod]

Let us see what's in the OP:

a chosen caste of people who are above all other races, with rights and privileges far surpassing all others and coming straight from divine power and their bloodline... wait, I read it somewhere before... I think it sounds like Nazi propaganda!

Seriously, that's why people are fed up with Israel. I don't hate it, I just don't give a flying toss, and if religious nuts want to bend my country (the US) over backward to "please God", I'll tell them to go have an intercourse with Satan.

reply to post by LadySkadi


You are entitled to your opinion as I'm entitled to mine.Ignorance is
just as strong on this board as is denial of it.

Originally posted by Subjective Truth


I think you may be on to something. If your people where almost wiped of the face of the earth and then you where placed around many countries that hate you would you not be a little protective. Real answers come form good debate and I think this is a real answer.

Either you are trolling for a good fight , verbally.

Or you are the Dumbest **** on the planet .

Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by Sean48

 

A very good video,thank-you for your contribution.

When people are abused,over a long period of time,they usually
become abusers themselves.That is how I see Israel,lashing out
like an abused child!

More like a spoiled rotten child. You have any idea how much money we give them on an Annual basis? You know what kind of weapons they have?

Turn the other cheek does not mean be vengeful.