Did Iran Just Test a Nuke?

reply to post by seataka


refer to Hellmutts post in the first page,

not to deep for a nuke to register

The United States and the western world in general have completely missed an oppurtunity to assist Iran into 21st century power development. Instead of placing sanctions on the nation, we should have sent scientists over there to assist in the development of nuclear power in a responsible way. This would allow Iranians to see that we 'the western world' are willing to allow them to join us at the nuclear table. Yet at the same time we must place them on a nuclear proliferation initiative allowing their government to lead a task force pushing for decreasing the nuclear stockpile. This would show we are supportive of Iran and at the same time allowing them to take the lead on some key regional nuclear issues.
The blowback from this would be in our favor as it would garnish American support from the old generation of Iranian's and instill in it a pro-western viewpoint for the next generation. This would set us up for a co-opt plan of attack into the 21st century power crisis.

Unfortunately we are governed by corrupt individuals who blanket their bed with the skin of the dead.



[edit on 11-2-2010 by Blood Eagle]

Originally posted by Curio
Very much doubt it's a nuke test - just hours after stating they have no intention of developing nuclear weapons. I mean, I don't trust what they say for a second (disclaimer: I don't trust what the US or Israel says either...) but it would kinda be silly to say that and then detonate one!

Just Mother Nature messing with us

Unless, it was the final test. Let me explain;

What if NK has been testing Iran's bombs and missiles, all along. Think about it, NK tests a nuke, then says, "okay, okay...we'll play along. We won't enrich any longer, come check out facilities. See? Facilities are all clean and clear."

Facilities are "clean and clear" because the nuclear devices weren't manufactured there. They were manufactured in Iran, sent to NK to test. With all eyes on Iran, no way they could test there. Unless,

It's the final test and count-down to an imminent launch of attack.

Iran, is dreaming to be like Iraq was in the 1990's,
with all the screaming and howlering for attention..

A Nuke test 10 clicks underground.

Seriously c'mon..

The hell with Iran, until they try to invade Kuwait, or something is what I say.

Not our Problem.

who cares.


Not scared of the dogs that bark at me..

How did this thread get 33 flags??.....

*sigh*

Originally posted by kennylee
reply to post by kid_of_3NKi

 

Iran will definitely drop a Nuke on Israel or anyone else it thinks needs to be wiped off the face of the earth. Iran has no right to have a nuclear weapon, EVER!

Your response to this thread shows your age indeed, a kid.

I am an adult and I couldn't agree more with him, regardless of his age.

You on the other hand I just feel sorry for.

reply to post by rickyrrr

Homomorphic analysis of the signal will answer that question in short order. Somebody somewhere in an office is probably running down tests on the seismographs. Unfortunately I don't have the data, nor the software to do so myself.

Basically, a nuke will be a clean impulse whee the ringing resonances on the graph are entirely modal resonances of the medium between the site of the explosion and the sensor sites.

Spot on. If there is a P and N wave, then it's a natural temblor. If it's a single resonance, then it could still be a 'quake, but would be evidence toward an underground test.

Remember that the measurement of epicenter depth is a triangulated measurement, and doesn't necessarily mean that if it was a nuclear test that they "drilled" down that deep, just that the shock wave manifested itself against the crust in that manner.

Good post.

reply to post by CanadianDream420


Like I said the S&F system is only good for judging the paranoid level of ATSers at the current time.

www.iris.edu...

11-FEB-2010 16:29:40 33.34 47.22 4.6 10.0 WESTERN IRAN
03-FEB-2010 22:39:39 28.28 57.07 4.5 10.0 SOUTHERN IRAN
02-FEB-2010 10:16:28 37.78 46.81 4.5 10.0 NORTHWESTERN IRAN

reply to post by Gliese581


that is extremely interesting, all the same depth around the same magnitude

Originally posted by Blood Eagle
The United States and the western world in general have completely missed an oppurtunity to assist Iran into 21st century power development. Instead of placing sanctions on the nation, we should have sent scientists over there to assist in the development of nuclear power in a responsible way. This would allow Iranians to see that we 'the western world' are willing to allow them to join us at the nuclear table. Yet at the same time we must place them on a nuclear proliferation initiative allowing their government to lead a task force pushing for decreasing the nuclear stockpile. This would show we are supportive of Iran and at the same time allowing them to take the lead on some key regional nuclear issues.
[edit on 11-2-2010 by Blood Eagle]

Aiding Iran in the development of their nuclear program is like taking a pathological killer hunting with you: You can teach him how to shoot deer and squirrels instead of people, but as soon as you turn around he's gonna shoot you in the back. Several times.

Maybe if their leader was more sane I would agree with you, but at the moment it's just a naive idea.

As for them actually having nukes...doubtful. Considering Ahmadinejad's past, I think he would likely claim responsibility to scare us out of placing more sanctions on him or taking any military action in the future.

And even more likely, Israel would bomb their research facilities again before they could test a nuke.



[edit on 11-2-2010 by CaptainIraq]

If that Earthquake WAS caused by an Iran Nuke (Unlikely) then the *BIG* news is *NOT* the Nuclear weapon...

It is the news that we (As a species) now have the technology to Dig 10 kilometers into the crust of the earth!

Wikipedia
As of 2008, the deepest mine in the world is TauTona in Carletonville, South Africa at 3.9 kilometers

All things considered... a 10km deep mine would be *WAY* more impressive than ANY nuclear weapon.

It would represent a revolution in resource acquisition technology, that would drastically shift the balance of power, and forever mutate the international economy.

-Edrick

[edit on 11-2-2010 by Edrick]

reply to post by l neXus l


Regarding the 20% announcement, I've never seen a millitary announce it's exact capabilities.... you get the news late and never the full story - or you simply loose your advantage.

One way to see why Iran is so cocky is to understand that they may already have nukes. DUMBs could be anywhere and drilling 10km with plasma drilling tech is not an issue.

Why must every natural disaster be man made?

Is it not possible it's..you know..NATURAL?

No way Iran is testing nukes without anyone knowing about it - The minute Israel catches any whiff of a Nuke being made in Iran they will utterly destroy them.

Far from proof, although the following IS supported by IAEA data/reports.

Iran's Nuclear Timetable.

I don't believe that Iran's government would 'fess up if they did test a nuclear weapon. I think they'd mirror Israel's M.O. -- no comment. It seems to have worked well for Israel. Everybody knows they have nuclear weapons, many hypothesize how many and how powerful, but in the end, nobody really can prove it one way or the other. I think this is the perfect posture for Iran, because they can still use the threat without ever actually acknowledging that they have nuclear weapons.

Iran's delivery systems are thought to be somewhat close-range. Their recent allies have some really long-range toys. It's an ever-changing world. It's an exciting time to be alive. I hope we all live.

Firstly, will people please read the thread - the NK nuke test registered at the same depth.....so enough of the "too deep for a nuke test"

Secondly, why shouldn't this thread be flagged? We have news of a quake in Iran, which matches some of the aspects of the NK test, on the day Iran was due to make a big announcement. Seems pretty worthy of flagging to me at this point

Originally posted by l neXus l
So today Iran Announced they are now a nuclear nation, congratulations.
about an hour or two ago there was a 4.6 Quake in Iran. at a depth of 10KM or 6.2 Miles very shallow, could it possibly be a Nuke test? maybe, about two years ago North Korea tested a Nuke, and the result showed up as a 4.7 Quake on the Richter scale with a depth of 10km as well, is this all just a coincidence or was there really a Nuke test?

earthquake.usgs.gov...

link to info on Koreas Nuke test

North Korea Nuke Test

If anything.. it's not an earth quake... West just responded to Ahmadinejad announcement of failed capitalism by using HAARP just like they did in Haiti. They're demonstrating "their" power

reply to post by Edrick


what about the kola super deep bore hole?

link

at least 12km deep.

The Kola Superdeep Borehole was frozen in 1994. In 1983 it was already 12 km deep when they decided to stop the digging, and after another 262 meters were dug (it took a decade to “cover” this distance), theproject was totally nixed. The official reason for it was a lack of financing, but insiders say that it was because of supernatural things going on inside the hole. Thedrilling technician assure journalists, that the project was fell-financed by the scientific foundations, and they actually stopped working because “demons started to get from under the ground”.

Holy crap I thought that demon stuff was an urban legend.

Yeah, they tested a nuke.

It is the right magnitude for a 10-15 kiloton test.

I mentioned it in my thread here.

Only one day in advance but it was a good guess.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by DantesPeak If they test a nuclear weapon it means they will not be attacked. Look at N. Korea, we threatened to invade/bomb them constantly right up until the day they tested a weapon and declared that they had the bomb. Iran knows this, and they would be stupid not to try and get the bomb with that precedent set for them.