Meteor impact in Mexico 11/02/2010

reply to post by Is2012TheDate


Strange logic here. Maybe a language problem?

A part of a Russian Satellite falls in Mexico and somehow you blame the United States? Or am I misunderstanding?

They don't know the exact moment an orbit will deteriorate to the point something will enter the atmosphere. Unless they know that, they don't know where it will land and even then it is a guess. In most cases they burn up. This must have been a large piece?

What are they supposed to do? Tell all the people in a miles wide swath in the path of the orbit to evacuate? More people would die than if it hit a populated area just from panic and accidents. What call would you have made if it was on your shoulders?

Originally posted by l neXus l
im sorely confused, how could something that happens in the future, already be in the news? this wont happen until November 2nd?

other countries put day/month/year not month/day/year like the U.S. Idiot

reply to post by Big_Mike


that seems a litte harsh considering i believe he was joking, and even if he wasnt and was confused, name calling really wasnt called for... in my op anyways

Originally posted by Big_Mike

Originally posted by l neXus l
im sorely confused, how could something that happens in the future, already be in the news? this wont happen until November 2nd?

other countries put day/month/year not month/day/year like the U.S. Idiot

This is not the Daily Koss. We don't call people names here.

reply to post by Nizax

BTW C.H.U.D. i haven't see a Mexican newspaper or news that said theres a crater, if u can read or translate what i post u will see they still can't find the place where the "thing" hit the ground.

Thanks for pointing that out Nizax, and for all the good work you've done on this thread.

That makes sense...

We often see confused reporting and rumors in cases like this.

For one thing, when a bright meteor is seen people will often think they saw it hit the ground, but meteors can be quite deceptive.

It does sound as though it was just an impressively bright meteor, which has (once again) been blown out of all proportion.

Originally posted by Casing
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Thank you Nizax for all of your efforts to find info there locally, I for one, very much appreciate it.


Casing

I share this "E-Beings" sentiments.

reply to post by Nizax


here is the 1st link translated!

A fireball and an explosion registered around the four of afternoon of alerted yesterday to the settlers of Tulancingo de Bravo in Hidalgo and Ahuazatepec in the state of Puebla. The direction of firemen and Civil defense of Tulancingo informed that it received one first call to the 3:50 of afternoon reporting the fall of an object not yet identified that went in flames and exploded before crashing in the mountainous area. In interview this morning Jesus Garci'a Avila, director of Firemen and Civil defense of this municipality confirmed that until the moment there are no data that allow to corroborate that there was material affectations to the civil populace nor damages in houses or wagon infrastructure. One hopes that this morning around the 8:30 begins a search in the mountain zone of the limits of Hidalgo and Puebla in hills Working, the Yolo and the Hermits in an approximated radius of 10 kilometers to look for and to identify the object that fell in the zone. In the brigades search firemen of different municipalities near the zone from Puebla as of Noble, municipal groups of rescue, police will participate as much and state and he is anticipated that elements of the Army could be added. Jesus Garci'a referred that until the moment nothing allows to assure that is a meteorite and denied that the Army already has surrounded the zone because the exact place of the impact is not known. The director of firemen added that with base in telephone reports the object was seen from distances superiors the 20 kilometers. jfra


very interesting?


peace

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And here is the 2nd link of NIZAX's post translated, the link was on the 1st page of the OP.

A light accompanied by a roar, that swayed houses and buildings of about five municipalities of Puebla and Hidalgo, was attributed to the fall of a meteorite. The place of the impact would have been the municipality of Ahuazotepec, Puebla, adjacent with Cuautepec, Noble, where a bridge collapsed and caused tension between people, according to versions of municipal authorities. The facts registered this Wednesday to the edge of the 18:30 hours between both populations, to where the Army arrived to surround the zone. The roar was listened to in Ahuazotepec and Huachinango, communities of Puebla, as well as in Tulancingo, Cuautepec and Metepec, pertaining to Noble. Munícipe of Cuautepec, Eduardo Castelán, confirmed the event, although later it said that it did not have precise data and it even commented that would have been to the 15:30 hours. Civil defense of Noble informed that the lines of aid had been colapsado with calls of frightened people who requested an explanation exceeds what was happening, after the outbreak that broke windows. Agents of security of the three hidalguenses demarcations, as well as of Civil defense and firemen ' ' peinaron' ' the zone; until the eve they did not give concrete information. The director of state Civil defense, Miguel Garci'a Count, said to have received the report thus investigated in the airports the binnacles since a plane crash was afraid; nevertheless, ' ' aeronave' is no report on the loss of communication with some; '. Also it was speculated on on the explosion of ductos of PEMEX. fml


peace

Originally posted by l neXus l
im sorely confused, how could something that happens in the future, already be in the news? this wont happen until November 2nd?

I still do not know why you guys put the dates all screwed up.

11'th day of the second month of the year 2010.

Sequential and numerical.

Originally posted by Nventual
If real, could it be a UFO? I heard that 2010 would see a UFO crash into Earth with many witnesses and a fuzzy video to go with it. This person also reported that 2010 would be the year of the earthquakes with a major one near Brazil.

ok im thinking War of the Worlds for some reason ! meteor crashes in Mexico

i hope ! a tripod or a flying ufo with a long neck doesn't come out of that meteor then were in serious trouble ! plymouthliving.files.wordpress.com...

reply to post by Big_Mike


Wow maybe you need a time out. Yell upstairs and ask your mum if she could bring you a pop tart I am sure it will cheer you up.

You know, some of you guys act like everything will always be fine and only conspiracy nuts believe in impending doom. Well, geologic history tells us catastrophic events happen with some regularity, so it's not a matter of if but when, and fact is we're overdue. Whether it'll be a meteor strike, a caldera exploding or a mega earthquake I haven't a clue. When it does happen though don't come crying to me for help. I'll refer you to Jesus/Yahweh/Allah/Buddha for your salvation.

And BTW, not only does Mexico have a free press that informs its citizens instead of keeping them in the dark like America's multinational conglomerate news agencies do, but their military is forthcoming about UFOs too.

news.bbc.co.uk...

Mexican Air Force pilots filmed 11 unidentified flying objects in the skies over southern Campeche state, a Defense Department spokesman confirmed Tuesday.

www.usatoday.com...

The Mexican defense ministry confirmed the videotape had been filmed by members of the air force..
"The armed forces don't perpetuate frauds,"

Okay so rsoe edis have updated the status of this cosmic event and 'confirmed' it was a piece of the Cosmos 2421 satellite that was launched in 2006.

hisz.rsoe.hu...

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more reports of damage:

According to media sources in Mexico, a 30 meter wide crater was left after a meteorite impacted approximately 100 miles to the northwest of Mexico City in the municipality of Ahuazotepec, Puebla. Eyewitnesses report seeing a light and then a "roar" as the alleged meteorite hit, swaying nearby buildings. According to one translated source, a bridge had been damaged by the impact that occurred at 6:30 pm local time on Wednesday evening. Windows were also shattered as a result of the blast. Local authorities reported that emergency phone lines were jammed with scared people calling to find out what was happening. The Mexican army arrived at the scene and cordoned off the area according to another news source.

An intriguing thing that they also mention is that it is strange no more details of damage and photographs of the impact site have surfaced. I personally have never heard of a piece of space junk causing this much damage and panic, especially since it hit a pretty rural area.

Also, no wreckage was found. and American authorities knew it was going to hit/land over Mexico.

I wonder if the object had hit a populated area, and killed a few thousand people, that this event would've been reported as a meteorite impact? just sayin'

They say its a satelite but instead maybe its a UFO that crasht there. So we have to believe and carry on. A satelite stays longer than 3,4 years in orbit. So not than is something very very wrong upstairs. Why do you think there is little about this thing ????

Thanks for the great story. With a special thanks to the translators. The way you guys all put it together is far more interesting than American MSM even if they had pickled it up right away.

Apparently it is still a UFO, until we have some stronger evidence. Which might never come. If it is a spy satellite don't expect anyone to ever admit it.

Having recently watched the Meteorite Men series, everything that falls from space has the value of gold, so that makes stories like this even more interesting - especially if you live nearby.

Nizax, I'd like to add my thanks for posting this thread and for all the work you have done on it. I've not re-read through the posts this morning but did'nt you say you know people in the area? It would be great to get an eyewitness account from someone you know and trust.

So now it seems to have been a satellite. Like a previous poster asked "why is it always Russian satellites that come down?" I remember the panic when Skylab was coming down. It never seems to be American, European or Chinese. There must be that much junk up there now that I doubt anybody really knows who "owns" every single piece.

Doesn't make sense that it is a satellite. One that would make a crater that size would of been tracked well in advance of its re-entry. Usually we get weeks advanced warning that a satellite will be crashing, and those are small ones or just debri. If it was a russian one, they could of shot it down to minimize impact. None of this happened leading me to believe that 1+1=3 on this one.

Will wait and see the final explanation. Good thread.

I think Discovery has the number on the Satellite wrong... but either way it was not a Satellite, but a fragment of a Satellite.

My best guess is the Kosmos 2251...they say most of the fragments are being tracked but they do not know if ALL of them are being tracked. The reason a piece of it fell in the first place, and more may be coming, was this back on Feb 10, 2009.

From Wiki...

The 2009 satellite collision was the first major collision between two intact artificial satellites in Earth orbit. The collision occurred at 16:56 UTC on February 10, 2009, at 789 kilometres (490 mi) above the Taymyr Peninsula in Siberia, when Iridium 33 and Kosmos-2251 collided. The satellites collided at a speed of 11.7 kilometres per second (7.3 mi/s), or approximately 42,120 kilometres per hour (26,170 mph)

Nicholas L. Johnson, NASA's chief scientist for orbital debris, estimated that the satellite collision created approximately 1,000 pieces of debris larger than 10 centimeters (4 inches), in addition to many smaller ones.

I do not see how it can be the Kosmos 2421, the Satellite has only been in orbit for 4 years, to be already fragmented into multiple pieces and falling to earth after such a short time?

[edit on 12-2-2010 by CalibratedZeus]

Found another report. Says pretty much the same thing as the OP

www.ubalert.com...



Do we have any pictures yet? Any videos? Seems from this that it was quite a large event which was noticed for lack of a better word by a great many Mexicans.

Hope we get answers on this one...

[edit on 12-2-2010 by Chonx]

In 1987 my OSU astronomy professor said that everyday thousand of pounds of rocks hit the Earth from outer space. During the last 50 years in Indiana my gandfather got his tractor stuck in a meterorite crater from one
that hit the farm land. My uncle has the meterorite now, I would love to see it. He barely admits to having it, there were twelve brothers and sisters in that family. On ebay small rocks sell for big amounts of money.
The lybian sand glass also sells for alot on ebay. That was the result of a fireball hitting egypt and scortching 200,000 acres of land because it supposedly blew up over the earth before impact. There was an interesting
program on the history channel two weeks ago. It seems like some boy was hit in the hand last yearwith a meteroite, someone had a meterorite crash though their bathroom in NY, someone in Virginia had a meterorite land on a doctors desk....
So we are helpless to this, and if someone knew things were going to come at the earth on certain days we should be told on the weather channel, warned to stay indoors etc... Does anyone have any better ideas?