"America cursed by God if we reject Israel " From Rep. Bachmann (Minn)

reply to post by mamabeth


Do you think Israel would exist in 2 years if the U.S. cut off aid today?

A simple yes or no will suffice, no need for answers such as "Well no, but the U.S. wouldnt either blah blah blah"

Would Israel exist if the U.S. cut off all forms of aid

Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by buddhasystem

 

The truth is...money that should go for helping american children
is lining the pockets of some corrupt politician or business tycoon.

If that's unavoidable, so be it, as long as the politician and tycoon are not Israelis. At least we'll get some back through charity. And the money can be earmarked, too. Evey dollar going to Israel must be earmarked for US education and traced. Amen.

reply to post by brainwrek



Israel can take care of itself,my answer is YES!

Bachmann was exploiting 'religion'

But this is not about religion. It is politics. Hiding behind religion


In the 1890's, Zionist Theodore Hertzl commenced pushing and shoving to get his hands on Palestine

He canvassed the most powerful people in the world

They offered him several alternatives

Hertzl rejected all of them

Only Palestine will do, he said. And he wrote that in his diaries which are accessible online


Israel is not a 'religious' State

True jews know this


Israel is a Zionist State. It was conceived as a Zionist headquarters from the outset

Zionists exploited the World Wars in order to populate Israel

Zionists in the British government handed Palestine to their Zionist brothers

Jews in wartorn Europe were pressured to go to Palestine, to the 'new jewish homeland'

European jews were highly reluctant to go to Palestine. This is no secret. Powerful Zionists admitted it. European jews voiced their reluctance

European jews were USED, just as the Palestinians were abused

Sixty years later, jews are departing the fake State of Israel

Their parents and grandparents were disillusioned with Zionist lies and actions

Israel was an illegitimate venture from the start

It was cursed. The fake State of Israel was and is cursed. It is a bastard-child conceived in ignorance and greed. It will always BE a bastard State without legitimacy. Jews know it. The world knows it. Zionists don't give a damn.

To Zionists --- jews, Israel, Palestinians are as unimportant as gravel on a road. Zionists USE that road as a means to an end

Zionists use Bachmann as a means to an end

Bachmann, in her utter ignorance, attempts to use ignoramuses who claim to be 'Christian' --- as a means to an end


Judaism FORBIDS jews to live in the holy lands until after the coming of the Jewish Messiah

Israel, therefore, can make NO CLAIM to being a 'jewish State'

And any jew who resides in 'israel' is rejecting the dictates of their own religion


There is and can be NO Christian support of the fake, illegitimate israel


What we have is ignorant creatures who USE their false 'Christianity' to excuse the fact that they have a sexual and neurotic obsession about jews and judaism

These neurotic failures will NOT learn about Judaism

Because they are AFRAID OF THE TRUTH --- about fake-israel and about themselves


Zionists and their pawns (like the moron Bachmann) LAUGH at the neurotics who 'support' fake israel


Those sexually-frustrated, neurotic and ignorant fools who 'support israel' are responsible for the murder, rape & torture of Palestinians who --- as the early Zionists ADMITTED --- are the true descendants of the Holy Land's original jews

Bachmann undoubtedly is rewarded handsomely by cynical Zionists of today. She is a TOOL. A TOOL who enlists other, even more ignorant and uniportant TOOLS who claim to be 'Christian'

Neurotic, ignorant fools/tools who claim in this thread to be Christians in support of Zionist israel have nothing else in their lives !

Faced with the truth of israel, they close their eyes and ears. They are terrified of the truth of the situation --- beacuse they've built their idiot lives on lies

And they will CLING to those lies

and they will continue to support the murder of Palestinians (who are descendants of genuinely Biblical jews)

rather than face reality

Their lives, their beliefs, their words ---- are empty


Zionists and sincere jews SPIT when they speak of fake-Christians in support of 'israel'


Just as serial murderers on death-row LAUGH and JOKE about the sexually frustrated, insane women who send them love letters and gifts


and that *IS* the truth


[edit on 11-2-2010 by Dock9]

god doesn't intervene with creation, hhaha

reply to post by mamabeth


So then you would have no problem cutting off all aid to Israel correct?

If it can survive on its own and everything that shouldnt be a problem.

I posted this in another thread originally, but feel it is relevant here as well.


Just a quick note here, while you may be entirely correct with your point, or may not, depending on where this knowledge comes from, I wish to point out one thing. All knowledge, ancient or contemporary, comes from one of two sources, the written word ( book's ) or the spoken word, which leaves one with the conundrum; who is reading the right book's, or who is listening to the right people, until we have that figured out, and we may never do so, then all else is mere conjecture in regards to this topic, or any other, as it amount's to, which book's do you deem factual, and which spoken word do you sense or believe to be true. The rest is blind opinion, and poppycock, so to speak..... Fact's are fact's only when they are observed in person, otherwise we are just taking someone else's word for it.

There, now we don't have to support them, we are them..... Well, ya never know.....???




www.hope-of-israel.org...

reply to post by freetree64


Oh sweet mercy! Are the people of Minnesota so dumb or so desperate that they have to keep putting this brain dead shill back in office time and time again??? Everytime she opens her mouth she proves once again that she is several fries short of a Happy Meal, yet she is still a member of Congress... Mindnumbing, simply mindnumbing... Are Americans so stupid that they actually believe that 'God' cares about national borders or ancestry??? This is just another blaring example of the increasing Polititard Movement...

[edit on 11-2-2010 by JaxonRoberts]

Originally posted by Dock9
Bachmann was exploiting 'religion'

But this is not about religion. It is politics. Hiding behind religion

Those sexually-frustrated, neurotic and ignorant fools who 'support israel' are responsible for the murder, rape & torture of Palestinians who --- as the early Zionists ADMITTED --- are the true descendants of the Holy Land's original jews

Bachmann undoubtedly is rewarded handsomely by cynical Zionists of today. She is a TOOL. A TOOL who enlists other, even more ignorant and uniportant TOOLS who claim to be 'Christian'

Neurotic, ignorant fools/tools who claim in this thread to be Christians in support of Zionist israel have nothing else in their lives !

Faced with the truth of israel, they close their eyes and ears. They are terrified of the truth of the situation --- beacuse they've built their idiot lives on lies

And they will CLING to those lies

and they will continue to support the murder of Palestinians (who are descendants of genuinely Biblical jews)

rather than face reality

Their lives, their beliefs, their words ---- are empty


Just as serial murderers on death-row LAUGH and JOKE about the sexually frustrated, insane women who send them love letters and gifts


and that *IS* the truth


[edit on 11-2-2010 by Dock9]

That is a point. It always revolted me , this sycophantic , lick-spittle , apple polishing, toady ways some of these christians prostrate themselves for these pseudo jews . It could be sexual deviance at work . It may be deviance , hiding behind politics , hiding behind religion.

In fact , if these people do have these kinds of perversions , they would most likely want to disguise or channel it in some fashion that 'god' would approve of , else , as it stands it is 'satans work' . Therefore , they would want to channel these deviances back through their religion as a kind of subversion laundering scheme , they would look to any outlet they can find or interpret from the bible would enable them to express these desires. By finding something that they can say ' god says we must do this ' . Hence they say these are gods people ( never mind they came from southern Russia & Eastern Europe) and the consequent sycophancy , fawning, and idolatry . It is some kind of 'god endorsed 'perversion outlet .

[edit on 12-2-2010 by Gun Totin Gerbil]

Originally posted by freetree64
. . . All knowledge, ancient or contemporary, comes from one of two sources, the written word ( book's ) or the spoken word. . .

Scuse me. (raises hand) You may want to study "empirical knowledge."

That is to say observed, witnessed or experienced. (Once bitten, twice shy.)
Linky


So much for only two forms. BTW I graduated from the school of hard knocks.

The 'Land' of Isreal could be seen as divine, not the 'State' of Israel; Of which is of human design.

ThereIn lies an important distinction.....less extinction.

'Stewards', of the land, are as dust In the 'wind'. The ship of Israel is far, far off course.....from it's Neighbors.



[edit on 11-2-2010 by Perseus Apex]

reply to post by Count Chocula


I totally agree, well said It's getting to the point now where the US, UK & Israeli governments seem to think they can threaten anyone they choose, and they now act & behave like they are above international law. The nutters have taken over the asylum.

reply to post by Count Chocula


Thank-you very much for bringing to my attention the flag and Israeli
pins.I will have to see where I can buy some.I have an Israeli magnet
for my car.

reply to post by mamabeth


Sad that a seemingly intelligent person cannot see past the "enabling" nature of the Christian - Jewish paradox. It is a zero sum game and each side is a pawn that exploits the other. Whichever side is "right" will mean the evisceration of the other. There can be only one "winner." (Both sides are betting against the house sort to speak.)

Odd but true if you subscribe to either religious doctrine.

Think much?

[edit on 12-2-2010 by kinda kurious]

I believe in God. I love my God, and all the things he created. However, from a political point of view I find this suggestion of being cursed for renouncing Israel (the country) and its foriegn and domestic policies quite the propeganda trick, and not remotely realistic. God does not condone the murder of the innocent for any reason, and Im fairly sure it gets up his nose even more when the perpetrators are members of his faith. Quite frankly I believe that any claim Israel the nation had to his favour is over and done with now. One cannot cause death and destruction to the innocent and expect to come out smelling of anything other than charred meat, and brimstone.
Any suggestion that because Israel happens to be the place of the birth of christ, and the anscestoral home of Judao-Christian religion , they cannot be damned by reason of geography , is foolishness. If they damn themselves by thier actions, by aggression then they will go to hell . In fairness you cannot support that sort of thing if you believe in Jesus, or God or any other supposedly peaceful nation.

Look's like Rep. Bcahmann's not the only one, sound's like your PM in Canuck country is on Israel's side as well according to this post.... What up Canada????





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[edit on 15-2-2010 by freetree64]

Well, it's been awhile, and it look's like thing's have changed a bit, I can only imagine how this thread would be perceived in this period of time we are currently in.... So let the hate begin, and look's to me like Rep. Bachmann called it pretty good, I'm just waiting for the "rest of the story"..... ** R.I.P. Paul Harvey

Absolutely scary that we have people in such powerful positions that believe in invisible, undetectable, mythical, all powerful myth.

All religious people I have ever heard are complete hypocrites. If they truly believe in God then they should relax and realize that Gods Will be done. No? It is extreme doubt in their gods who drive the most passionate people who think it is their duty to fulfill gods will. What happened to let go and let god?

They come to near begging their flock to not sin but if its gods will for them to sin or not we have no control over it. It is all God's will so to fight anything or to despair about anything is a denial of their own beliefs.

Bush was as scary as Ahmandinijahd(SP).

We really need to not elect people who think their destiny is gods will or anything they can or will do is gods will. Because if god exists in the manner in most religions then we can not change anything so why bother anguishing over it?

Truth be known, deep inside they doubt their own belief system.

If God exists my belief or not has no effect on weather I will go to heaven or the fiery place as it is gods will that will determine my fate not your bible or your beliefs.

My fate is set if there is a God and nothing I can do to change it.

None but god can decide if US will be cursed and nothing we can do will change the US destiny oin that regard or else your beliefs are false.

Israel does not need America if they have god. We only need to worry and act out if we don't believe in god.



[edit on 8-6-2010 by Xeven]

This is when Pro-Israel becomes scary...but let's not forget so can the anti-Israel as I believe at least some have noticed here lately. This just makes me sick, Conservative hero Barry Goldwater is rolling in his grave (he said religious nuts would ruin the Republican Party and he was right.)