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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Nice job of confusing socialism with communism, yet again JPZ!
It seems you, who has always lived in a pure capitalist country, "knows" the difference between socialism and communism better than the people who have ACTUALLY LIVED there for decades.
Why "Free education" and not "Free food". I mean - you die without food.
My high school teacher in New Jersey told us(and I still remember it to this day) exactly what I told you in my earlier post. Please don't make me repeat everything. I will further explain socialism: (and do not trust wikipedia for a moment) A hybrid eco-political system where major industry is government owned and controlled while everything else is private/corporate.
Originally posted by endisnighe
All of you can label any damn thing you want, does not mean it is what you label it.
TO ME, IT LOOKS TO BE TOTALITARIANISM!
Call it what it is, CONTROL! Who the frell cares what you want to label it, I no longer want ANY part of the bull# any longer.
4 stars for your inconsequential comment. There is denying ignorance! /s
Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by pai mei
Why "Free education" and not "Free food". I mean - you die without food.
The problem with free food is that with free food there is no reason to work, if people are given free food, free shelter, free utilities, what is the point?
In the animal kingdom, even pack animals have to work for their food.
Today “work and more work” is the accepted way of doing things. If anything, improvements to the labor-saving machinery since the 1920s have intensified the trend. Machines can save labor, but only if they go idle when we possess enough of what they can produce. In other words, the machinery offers us an opportunity to work less, an opportunity that as a society we have chosen not to take. Instead, we have allowed the owners of those machines to define their purpose: not reduction of labor, but “higher productivity”—and with it the imperative to consume virtually everything that the machinery can possibly produce.
Originally posted by endisnighe
As I said, capitalism is a FORM of an economic system. It HAS NOTHING to do with governance. What your teacher was telling you was totally misleading. That is NOT capitalism. That is fascism/corporatism. Corporatism being a new fancy name for fascism.
Originally posted by endisnighe
Fascism being control of major sections of the economic system in a country.
Originally posted by endisnighe
Now, with the bail outs and then the takeover of said businesses is the end result of socialism/communism.
Originally posted by endisnighe
You are arguing semantics and still not seeing the inherent problem of what is going on in our country. Why was it so good in the 50's and 60's economics wise? It was because the fiat money system was still based on a tangible asset. Now it is all based on perception.
Originally posted by endisnighe
If one actually believes that capitalism was alive and well in the past 40 years has NO idea about economic systems.
ALL of the current problems can be traced EXACTLY to the government/corporate control and intervention in the market. The more you listen to the hog wash that comes from the MSM and current economic literature, the more you feed into ignorance.
Do you actually believe the economic advisors to the past 6 presidents have any inclination to make the normal person better off? The more power we give them, the more the difference between the megacorps/bankster/government masters and the people.
Originally posted by endisnighe
The whole difference in what we are saying can be attributed to the decades we were trained in or the time frame of the books or reference sources we quote.
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
Socialsim:
# a political theory advocating state ownership of industry
# an economic system based on state ownership of capital
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
Socialism
en.wikipedia.org...
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