''Iran will deliver telling blow to global powers on Feb. 11'

Hes not nuking anyone! Doing so would pretty much be his end because once he sets off nukes anywhere he will get a full scale retaliation. I think he may show proof that they have the technology and use it as a deterrent but to use a nuke would be suicide and the guy isn't crazy!

reply to post by Cydonia2012


It is all speculation, most people jumping to the worst case that the

msm has fed them.

For all we know, He may show he's been made a Amway Distributor.

Originally posted by Sean48
reply to post by Cydonia2012

 

It is all speculation, most people jumping to the worst case that the

msm has fed them.

For all we know, He may show he's been made a Amway Distributor.

And I suppose you've met him, shook his hand, and had intimate conversations with him...

For all we know, you could be Mahmoud.

Originally posted by TarzanBeta

Originally posted by Sean48
reply to post by Cydonia2012

 

It is all speculation, most people jumping to the worst case that the

msm has fed them.

For all we know, He may show he's been made a Amway Distributor.

And I suppose you've met him, shook his hand, and had intimate conversations with him...

For all we know, you could be Mahmoud.

I couldn't draw circles, Amway dropped me.

Originally posted by antonia

Originally posted by TarzanBeta

Correct... we have no idea if Iran has nukes or not.

But that president is unstable. Remorse? We shall see.

How do you know he is unstable? He uses a lot of rhetoric but then most politicians here do that as well.

And let's not forget-It is the Clerics who run the country. The President doesn't have much power in the grand scheme of things.

[edit on 1-2-2010 by antonia]

Legal power and control over the masses are two different things.

He may be a puppet now, but if he gets the backing of people (and it seems he's getting a lot of American backing), then he has his own form of control.

I'm sure this has already been said, but I'll just add a little to the discussion...

Iran isn't going to unveil anything too dramatic. Think about it, that'd be a stupid decision on their part.

I think the general consensus is people believe Iran's announcement will be related to nuclear weaponry.Going off of that assumption, it could only be a few different things.

They could announce that they have made major progress in the development of nuclear arms. This however, would be counter-productive and would probably end up with Israel, the UK, and the United States bombing their nuclear facilities.

They could test their own nuclear weapon. This, again, is very unlikely. If Iran had the ability to already produce an actual nuclear arm the US would know about it. Plus, the implications of this would again just end up with them being bombed.

They could test a nuclear weapon they bought secretly from Russia or Pakistan and claim it's their own. This would result in the same implications as the scenario above.

Obviously, I'm not limiting the announcement to these three situations. There are countless others, but basically anything other than the development or testing of nuclear weapons is going to be a let down (and relief).

Iran's full of bull#.

Originally posted by ProUSA
I'm sure this has already been said, but I'll just add a little to the discussion...

Iran isn't going to unveil anything too dramatic. Think about it, that'd be a stupid decision on their part.

I think the general consensus is people believe Iran's announcement will be related to nuclear weaponry.Going off of that assumption, it could only be a few different things.

They could announce that they have made major progress in the development of nuclear arms. This however, would be counter-productive and would probably end up with Israel, the UK, and the United States bombing their nuclear facilities.

They could test their own nuclear weapon. This, again, is very unlikely. If Iran had the ability to already produce an actual nuclear arm the US would know about it. Plus, the implications of this would again just end up with them being bombed.

They could test a nuclear weapon they bought secretly from Russia or Pakistan and claim it's their own. This would result in the same implications as the scenario above.

Obviously, I'm not limiting the announcement to these three situations. There are countless others, but basically anything other than the development or testing of nuclear weapons is going to be a let down (and relief).

Iran's full of bull#.

Correct.

And Obama was expected to say something that caused people to have heart attacks at the State of the Union address (i.e. - e.t. presence, economic depression).

Originally posted by TarzanBeta


Legal power and control over the masses are two different things.

He may be a puppet now, but if he gets the backing of people (and it seems he's getting a lot of American backing), then he has his own form of control.

American backing? How so? Not seeing it. How many times have we threaten to drop bombs on them? I wouldn't call that support. As for people who simply don't believe what the U.S has to say about him-That's not an indicator of support. I don't believe most of what you guys have to say about him and don't buy a lot of what is declared on CNN. I don't support him though. As for the backing of the people, you are talking about a Shiite Muslim country. That's almost akin to saying Catholics will side with the President of the U.S. before the Pope. Some might but the vast majority are going with the Pope because religious duty trumps politics for them. The Clerics derive the ability to rule from the Qur'an. It is highly unlikely a Shiite Muslim population is simply going to defy religious obligation for one man who is taking orders from someone else anyway.

Originally posted by Sean48
reply to post by Cydonia2012

 

It is all speculation, most people jumping to the worst case that the

msm has fed them.

For all we know, He may show he's been made a Amway Distributor.

I don't think we need fox news hysteria to give us a clue about the iranian regime, and their puppet president's intentions to harm Iranian's and nearby middle eastern residents.

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US is protecting Iran neighbours who dont have the same type of weapons and military power. The middle east is important to the whole world, not only the US and the UK, they did however step up to protect and serve. No one trusts Iran in this matter, its an international problem if they have both nuclear and icbm capability (like Israel).

Ok, we'll see 10-11 feb, 2010, hopefully it will just be an empty statement celebrating the revolution but i suspect its soemthing else.

[edit on 1-2-2010 by rhines]

Anybody find a full transcript of him speaking?

Originally posted by rhines
reply to post by Sean48

 

US is protecting Iran neighbours who dont have the same type of weapons and military power. The middle east is important to the whole world, not only the US and the UK, they did however step up to protect and serve. If i remember correctly France put their machinery in (R)everse and backed out.

The US is protecting Iran's neighbours from Iran?

Oh.

Two of Iran's neighbours are Iraq and Afgan,

I hope the US doesn't use that protection on any more of it's allies.

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I hope the US doesn't use that protection on any more of it's allies.

Since when did Afghanistan equal Saudi Aradia?

Why do you post such nonsense?

Do you have anything better to do than write gibberish that sounds like propaganda?

[edit on 1-2-2010 by john124]

Surely Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is just trying to justify his position to his own people, in the face of mass opposition to his continuing in power?
After all, he's not like an impoverished suicide bomber who has nothing to lose, and he clings to power too tenuously to want to risk complete destruction of the country he rules.

Surely if the US intelligence community had knowledge of nuclear weapons they would site that as a reason for a troop build up?
After all, they did with Saddam, and he did't even have any!

And where is the UN resolution for action against Iran? And why haven't the Brits been asked to 'chip in', to take the curse of unprovoked invasion?

Could it just be a continuation of the rhetorical game thats been played out ever since Saddam failed to take down Iran for us, back in the 80's?

Could it be that all this is a continuation of the politics of terror? That a threatened populace will stand behind their leaders, NO MATTER WHAT if they perceive an external threat? Seems the rules work the same on all sides.

Having lived under the 'bomb' for nearly 50 years, you get a bit cynical about it, I guess.
They made a TV series and a film about this exact scenario, back in 1982, and the PTB still let the situation continue so that we are on the brink of destruction?
Bull! If we are, its by design!

BTW, did they ever find the Russian missiles that were supposed to be headed fro Iran? You know, the ones on the pirated vessel 'Artic Sea'?

Whoops! Apocalypse!

Originally posted by john124
reply to post by Sean48

 

I hope the US doesn't use that protection on any more of it's allies.

Since when did Afghanistan equal Saudi Aradia?

Why do you post such nonsense?

I'm addressing the nonsense that I'm given as replies.

I work with what I'm given.

Saudi Arabia are our allies? Someone should tell them that , before they take

down 2 more towers.

Originally posted by antonia

Originally posted by TarzanBeta


Legal power and control over the masses are two different things.

He may be a puppet now, but if he gets the backing of people (and it seems he's getting a lot of American backing), then he has his own form of control.

American backing? How so? Not seeing it. How many times have we threaten to drop bombs on them? I wouldn't call that support. As for people who simply don't believe what the U.S has to say about him-That's not an indicator of support. I don't believe most of what you guys have to say about him and don't buy a lot of what is declared on CNN. I don't support him though. As for the backing of the people, you are talking about a Shiite Muslim country. That's almost akin to saying Catholics will side with the President of the U.S. before the Pope. Some might but the vast majority are going with the Pope because religious duty trumps politics for them. The Clerics derive the ability to rule from the Qur'an. It is highly unlikely a Shiite Muslim population is simply going to defy religious obligation for one man who is taking orders from someone else anyway.

You assume that just because the US does something that the people of the US are the ones who did it.

You assume that just because the Vatican says something that Catholics do it.

We are talking about political powers. Politics is much stronger than anything these days. IT's all about telling people what they want to hear and using every ideal to your advantage.

Politic is the ability to make muslims hate their leaders. Politic is the ability to make catholics hate the pope. Politic is the ability to convince Christians to join the military to serve the country.

The fact that this guy is advertised at all should be a testament to the power that people want us to think he has.

The fact that the media advertises this guy at all should be a testament to how much power they believe he potentially has - or how much power they can derive from him for their own purposes.

To think linear in regards to politics is a mistake. Politics is the name of the game. Everything is manipulated.

To think that just because they are Shiite muslim that they are incapable of liking or believing in something other than their professed belief is PREPOSTEROUS. To think that just because they say they believe or do a certain way means that they actually mean it is also preposterous.

Welcome to the modern world. In this world, only God knows our hearts. Humanity has delved into quite a foolish and nonsensical way.

It is in this time that when someone puts their faith in you, you should not take it for granted.

The US is not gearing up for NO REASON.
Further, the fact that Iran needs weapons and is chasing after the nukes is proof that Iran means war AT SOME POINT.

Is the US any better? Absolutely not. But those who seek the power are no better than those who have it.

reply to post by Sean48

Saudi Arabia are our allies? Someone should tell them that , before they take

down 2 more towers.

Bin Laden is Saudi, and some other terrorists are British, so are all British terrorists or are you just stupid?

I couldn't care less what Ahmadi says, he's like the piece of sh*t stuck on someone's shoe that if you tried to reform would be like wrapping sh*t in wrapping paper and expecting it not to smell!

He could say he has a death ray and wants to blow up the west tomorrow, and I'd still laugh at him because he's the Tehran version of Baghdad Bob, except this time it requires no western army to rid Iran of this trash, because Iranian's can and will do it themselves!

He will reveal the existence of aliens or spaceships!

That would be the BLOW, otherwise it is more propaganda words.

reply to post by john124


You gotta chill m8.

You will probably get your war with Iran, millions more will be slaughtered.

The War Machine is in gear. Israel will be happy.

Thats the bottom line for you , isn't it?

Originally posted by Sean48
reply to post by john124

 

You gotta chill m8.

You will probably get your war with Iran, millions more will be slaughtered.

The War Machine is in gear. Israel will be happy.

Thats the bottom line for you , isn't it?

Read my post again, and then realise how stupid you are to mention anything to do with war. Some of you ATS guys are so bland and one-directional.

Perhaps the regime should stop killing protestors and be reasonable and pragmatic for the first time ever, and then I will for once say something positive about them.

Until then, the regime reforming would be like reforming a piece of sh*t!

[edit on 1-2-2010 by john124]