This is to ALL Alien and UFO Debunkers

Originally posted by Phlynx

Ok... very rarely are the debunkers professionals. If they just say this or that is why it is not alien/ufo I am fine, but if they aren't baking up there opinions, they aren't debunking at all.

You said it yourself, these people aren't debunkers. They should be treated the same way as their mindless believing counterparts.

So your OP is in fact not directed to all alien and UFO debunkers but to the mindless skeptics, do you agree?



[edit on 1-2-2010 by cripmeister]

reply to post by Phlynx


I wanted to say that as a person who has had eight close up visual encounters with UFO's and three of those encounters involved extreme psychic telepathic communication, The question of (are we alone) is for all times settled for me.

I have no idea what other encounters I may have had in my youth, but they certainly know who I am. That makes for a one way conservation.

Curious that I was a non believer before I had my first encounter at 27 years old. I had odd abilities as a child but chalked it up to some brain abnormality.. Since my first encounter I have pondered other conclusions..

My Father, a battle hardened veteran of WW11 was certainly a non believer and would pratically curse you if you even mentioned the devine or anything about aliens.

Two years after my first encounter, he was showering in his home when a very large UFO descended over his home and shook the entire house almost to collapse. He ran outside completely naked along with four other family members where they beheld the sight of a lifetime.
A huge ship at treetop level. He has never made fun of me again.

My varied and curious encounters have given me some insight as to their origin and reason. But who can say for sure.

To the sceptics I can say that the first time you actually see a UFO up close you know instantly that they are not from our human technology, but strangely you feel as though it is a sight you are familiar with as much as any everyday sight and the feeling that you have always known of them...

I realize that this is a short post ,but I wish to continue with more involved experiences as they seem to have a pattern or story that gives a clue to the deeper aspects of the human mind and our conciousness in relation to our universe .

Originally posted by cripmeister

Originally posted by Phlynx

Ok... very rarely are the debunkers professionals. If they just say this or that is why it is not alien/ufo I am fine, but if they aren't baking up there opinions, they aren't debunking at all.

You said it yourself, these people aren't debunkers. They should be treated the same way as their mindless believing counterparts.

So your OP is in fact not directed to all alien and UFO debunkers but to the mindless skeptics, do you agree?



[edit on 1-2-2010 by cripmeister]

Yes. Like
I previously said, I am not good with words... lol.

reply to post by strawboss2


First of all, I'm not calling you a liar because I don't know if what you're saying is a lie. The thing with accounts like yours is that there's never any evidence that it actually happened. Anyone can make up a fantastic story, we are all too well aware of that. If you want your account to be taken seriously then you must provide evidence - like it or not that's the way it is.

Well, In responce, I must say that I could supply you with a multitude of photos and video clips of anything you can imagine.

I am an expert with photoshop and video. But in my wildest dreams I would never accuse or appear to accuse anyone here of being a liar.
I would certainly accept what they present in good faith as there may be something to learn... If perhaps they present false evidence and it is found out, I would no longer listen to them.

I felt as though the people here were aware of the round the clock presence of thousands of UFO's and may be interested in hearing and considering actual Witnessed contacts and actual conversations with some of them.

What surprising concerns they have for the safety of the human participant and also a certain protocol...

Everyone please excuse my ignorance, I meant no harm in trying to join. you have my deepest regards and respect. I apologize....

reply to post by strawboss2


Hi strawboss2. No need to apologize.

Not everyone feels as Cripmeister does, in that, not everyone feels that reports from members such as yourself are not worthwhile if they they can't be proven, a virtually impossible task anyway. I for one still find much value in them and am very interested to read them. I don't presume anyone is lying but neither do I automatically accept them as definitely true. I think there are levels of value to things other than the limited 'binary' mindset of judging everythings value based purely on whether it can be categorically proven to be true or not.

Like you, others here have already proven the basic issues for themselves based on their own experiences. And having done that, they are then simply interested in sharing and comparing accounts of experiences without the constant imperative to prove something to themselves or others.

So I hope you keep posting.


[edit on 2-2-2010 by Malcram]

Originally posted by strawboss2
Well, In responce, I must say that I could supply you with a multitude of photos and video clips of anything you can imagine.

I am an expert with photoshop and video. But in my wildest dreams I would never accuse or appear to accuse anyone here of being a liar.
I would certainly accept what they present in good faith as there may be something to learn... If perhaps they present false evidence and it is found out, I would no longer listen to them.

I felt as though the people here were aware of the round the clock presence of thousands of UFO's and may be interested in hearing and considering actual Witnessed contacts and actual conversations with some of them.

What surprising concerns they have for the safety of the human participant and also a certain protocol...

Everyone please excuse my ignorance, I meant no harm in trying to join. you have my deepest regards and respect. I apologize....

No need to apologize. If you could supply photos/videos you would be doing the UFO community a big favor. That is exactly what we need.