Ethiopian UFO: Trace Evidence Incident

reply to post by Maybe...maybe not


because why come to a planet with a ship that can crash? ET races would never come here using our own stuff . Yes I do believe UFOs exist and that the truly unexplained ones are from some other planet or place far far away also et laws of physics may be something more than man understands . Humans have no idea what ET is ...Or what they are......

Bottom line ....IF there real or not is not the question any ships 1800 million tons would need to be made or built using methods that cant be understood .

reply to post by Phage

what makes you such an expert on pavement or how extreme heat affects it. this is Ethiopia how do you even assume that it is pavement and not some rudimentary road built out of other materials, and how does heat affect those materials? you do research i do admit that but you contort your findings to prove "YOUR" point.

people do your own research it is not that hard these days just use GOOGLE!!!!

Originally posted by AndersonLee
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not

 

because why come to a planet with a ship that can crash?

Bottom line ....IF there real or not is not the question any ships 1800 million tons would need to be made or built using methods that cant be understood .

G'day AndersonLee

Well I guess that covers it then.....

They would only come here in ships that can't crash, thereby proving the ships are made of anti-crash material.

I don't know why I couldn't see that.....

Thank you
Maybe...maybe not

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I would also like to point out that I do not believe that the phenomenon was caused by ET if they even exist but nonetheless it was a UFO according to eyewitness statements it behaved in an extraordinary manner which clashes with our conventional ideas of physics it is fascinating

reply to post by oatie

I'm not an expert on AC (asphaltic concrete) but I do know something about it and I've driven through my share of potholes. The UFO report says the asphalt was "melted" and presents that photo as evidence so I suppose you could say I'm assuming it's asphalt pavement, based on the report.

I'm not trying to prove "MY" point. I am presenting alternative explanations. Accept them or not, it's up to you and everyone else to decide on their own. As you said.

reply to post by AndersonLee


there is an amazing amount of assumptions in your statement I do not even know how exactly to react to it. whereabouts did you come bye such information?

You guys gotta come to Belgrade to see some major pot holes, some of them look like an alien mother ship slammed right on the road . The road is badly constructed so a truck can cause it to collapse, breaking off whole chunks. Lots of rain and sudden weather changes can cause extreme damage making half a meter deep holes with asphalt braking off like it's clay - I've seen it myself.

This UFO case is interesting but I find many others much more believable and with more convincing evidence. Worth noting anyway.

Phage's scientific explanation of pot holes was fun but with stuff like this you can't tell what really happened. Everything is more probable than a UFO, but its people's testimonies that keeps UFO research running.

reply to post by Phage


the quality and perspective the photo gives us is not enough to make a reasonable explanation at all. I am off to do some research on the event to see if I can confirm the evidence the op has given us.

The only connection i could find with the photos are just this site every account of the incident is derivative of the book phage found although i did find that the area of the melted asphalt was 2m x 7m again i cannot prove that these pictures are of the event or not either way there is not enough evidence and only one source for this story as fascinating as it may be there is no point to discuss it any further for me.

apologies for the bad grammer

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reply to post by oatie


Phage said the concrete doesn't look melted, and it doesn't. You don't have to be an expert in Ethiopian paving materials to know that things look a certain way when they have melted edges, and that they look another way when they are cracked apart. Why the hostility? The picture doesn't seem to agree with the story - specifically the part in which they said that the pavement was melted. That's worth pointing out when we are critically analyzing the story and the evidence, since the photo is submitted as evidence for the story being true.

reply to post by oatie


OK

Thanks for your help, Oatie.

Bye.

You know.....

I'll miss that guy

Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by Kandinsky

 

It certainly appears that *something* flew right along the edge of the highway in that photograph.
Note the ditch on the right side of the road (right side if you are travelling like we do here in America... on the right hand side). Not only is the edge of the asphalt chewed up, but the ditch seems to have been removed of any sort of debris along the way.
And possibly that debris has been pushed up to the asphalt just left of where the asphalt has been displaced?
[edit on 30-1-2010 by JayinAR]

Clearly, clearly, the road damage is caused by water having flowed over the road, both at the larger area and further along. That is evidence of erosion, not melted asphalt, which is just tar and small rocks mixed. There is no sign of puddling, no heat. Actually, all of the material is gone (futher into the down slope.)

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by sparrowstail

 

Because the "UFOlogists" got a hold of it?

It sounds to me a lot like a rocket or mortar attack.

Ok.

I think everyone needs to slow the hell down. What we know is that there was a "UFO" account in this sourced text (co-authored by J. Allen Hynek). Unless Hynek was hard up for cash at the writing of this book, I cannot resolve in my mind why he would include this case in the text if there weren't some, for the lack of a better term, unknown involved. But that, of course, is speculation.

Continuing, everyone does know who Hynek is? He was (or should be) the champion of "believers" and "skeptics" alike. I've been enthralled with his words and his rational, objective approach to studying so-called UFOs, something he himself says he never would have done, but ended up doing at the Air Force's request.

In the OP, there are three photographs which show us NOTHING. Absolutely nothing. The building? There was one of those near my house growing up. It looked like that because the former owners tore it down.

The pot? Meh. As others have said...

The road? Could be a number of things.

However, using those pictures to try to explain that nothing extraordinary (i.e. outside the scope of current human understanding) happened here is the same as using them to say that it was a military attack, or pot holes, or erosion/time, whatever.

What I am NOT seeing, which appalls me, are the questions that should be asked! The same questions I would think the more esteemed and questioning members would think to ask:

What of the nature of the villagers injuries? What of the nature of the death of the little girl? Could there possibly be more photographs aside from the three shown in the OP? Could there have been more detailed reasons for Hynek et al to document this sighting? Maybe.

If we had more photographs, more information on the nature of the injury, extensive comments from the scientists who studied it firsthand, only THEN can we say, "Ah, yes, those injuries are consistent with mortar"....or sunburn....or (insert something here).

And those are the questions we should be asking. All too often, most people seem to be in one of two camps: everything strange that is attributed to UFO activity IS alien activity; conversely, everything strange is absolutely explainable by utilizing the toolbox that is our human understanding.

I think it's time to wake the f*** up and realize that the size of the grey area between the two camps is simply huge, and humbling.

For any of you out there who are getting bored, enthralled, sick, tired, excited, frustrated, jaded, or confused in regards to the black&white, check out THIS THREAD.

edit: misplaced word

[edit on 30-1-2010 by Elepheagle]

[edit on 30-1-2010 by Elepheagle]

There are more Lies and Discrediting being dished out by the government and most of its people way too much. How do you go about debunking something that doesnt act within our laws of physics? How can you debunk something that you can't even begin to understand?

This makes me wonder, "How would the idiots of today try and debunk an alien invasion?"

[edit on 30-1-2010 by QuantumDeath]

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[edit on 30-1-2010 by byteshertz]

True People are not stupid and they know very well ...I understand why people still having discussions see to understand just how deep and far reaching this deception has become hell hard and its not easy no is no not in capability to explain unless you have seen or found them..

[edit on 30-1-2010 by AndersonLee]

Originally posted by AndersonLee
True People are not stupid and they know very well ...I understand why people still having discussions see to understand just how deep and far reaching this deception has become hell hard and its not easy no is no not in capability to explain unless you have seen or found them..

[edit on 30-1-2010 by AndersonLee]

Well, I agree completely.....

.....& also with the anti crash material.

reply to post by Aliensun


No way.
[in regards to weather erosion through rain]

You will NEVER find that sort of thing in a flat desert landscape.

Sorry, but I will not entertain that at all.
Not even for a second.

reply to post by JayinAR

Sela'i Da'iro (now called Dbarwa) lies at an elevation of 7,500 feet in a hilly region. The city of Asmara is about 10 miles from Dbarwa.

Asmara at 2,350 meters (7,700 feet) has a pleasant climate all year (average temperature of 16° Celsius (60° Fahrenheit)) and receives 508 mm (20 inches) of rainfall annually.

www.eritrea.be...

Not exactly a desert but not a tropical paradise either. In comparison, Las Vegas has an average annual rainfall of about 4 inches, definitely desert. And yet, Las Vegas gets flooding and washed out roads.