Ethiopian UFO: Trace Evidence Incident

Originally posted by JayinAR
If whatever the object was that "tore up" the asphalt was moving quickly and trying to stop suddenly, it could ver well tear up the road in just a manner.

I have seen this with my own eyes.

Of course, I didn't see evidence of a UFO. I saw evidence of a jet that was too large trying to land on a runway too small.

G'day JayinAR

I don't believe the report suggested the object was on the ground.

Therefore it could not have physically torn up the asphalt in the same manner as the jet you observed.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

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actually, yeah it could have.

The jet tore up the asphalt by reversing its turbines.
It was chewing up the asphalt before it ever touched down.

Originally posted by JayinAR
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actually, yeah it could have.

The jet tore up the asphalt by reversing its turbines.
It was chewing up the asphalt before it ever touched down.

G'day again JayinAR

Fair enough then.....

That must have been quite a sight!

Off topic for just a sec:

What happened.....did it stop in time?

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

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It stopped quickly enough not to crash into anything, but it had thrown asphalt through its turbines and had to have major repairs done.

Amazingly though, it was able to take off again.

Originally posted by sparrowstail
Very curious case. What exactly was it that flew over the houses and road? What strikes me odd is that from what we've heard and seem to know of ufo's and their propulsion systems is that they usually aren't so destructive to their surroundings, unless perhaps a malfunction or an attack. A little radiation residue or scorched ground but this seems colossal

I can hear the skeptics saying meteorite or fireball of some kind. If it was a cosmic visitor seems irresponsible of them to cause physical harm and destroy the environment. Not very discrete eh?

Cool case that definitely needs to be gotten to the bottom of.

sparrow

UFO saucer crafts are known to have their exterior hull electrically charged as part of their propulsion system. It is a form of electrostatic propulsion which requires huge amounts of energy that has been calculated into billions of volts according to their flight characteristics. As a consequence anyone standing near one can be harmed by its effects like heat or even electrical discharge.

With high electric fields arise magnetic fields which can heat metals close by. The molten pan is a classic example of induction, likely using alternating current. Power source requirements to sustain propulsion must be immense and I believe they use a form of cold fusion like what our Sun has. (See Stephen Michalak UFO case and other cases involving molten metals.)

Judging by witness statements it appears the occupants were having a malfunction and trying to maintain lift. Who knows what caused it.


[edit on 30-1-2010 by platoslab]

So Ive read through the posts and I see these as the main objects of possibility,
A: a jet cleaving the ground in a low hard deck turn

B. Cross rocket fire

C. UFO tearing the hell outta a village.
I will address these in reverse order

I wish nothing more to find evidence of an interstellar left hand turn. I do not see it here, yes I agree that the site removal is suspicious and worth notice. However without more data this is circumstantial hearsay at best.

the questions to ask are, in the article PHAGE posted it states that the Soviets were throwing alot of military assistance to the Eithiopian govt during that period, Did the soviets have a jet capable of producing these effects without completely cracking up. and leaving debris everywhere

Do rockets leave a cleave in the ground with their thrust. I have never seen it happen, but there is a first time for everything. if it was a rocket attack and the rocket "seemed" to turn because of cross-fire it seems poor tactics to fire rockets at one another and completly miss your targets.

So I propose this, what if it was a British Harrier, available in the region with Saudi and Isreali forces at the time, it's thrust ports would produce the downward thresh in the ground as it made its maneauvers. so it was a "friendly" doing damage?

Good thread I like it!

reply to post by TacticalVeritas

Again, there is no way to make a connection between the damaged pavement and the sighting.

In fact the description is inconsistent with the photograph. The asphalt does not appear "melted" as described, it is broken. The pavement damage could easily be a pothole or caused by a truck driving over or close to the edge. We know potholes form and we know truck bust up pavement. I'll accept that the jet blast of a Harrier could do it but you'd first have to show that there were any in the region at the time.

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Hey, I'm as big a fan of logic as the next guy.
But sometimes, it works to drop it for a bit.
X amount of people see a sighting.
Road is all f-ed up along route where sighting allegedly occurs.
Same with peoples' homes.

I mean, it is cool that you don't buy it.
But you gotta' admit it is a pretty neat account.

Also, that is an awful lot of road to be chewed up to be considered a simple pothole.

But I can tell you this much for sure. You can toss out the idea of that being a gradual wearing of the road in any circumstance. Note how the road is BROKEN off. It is not worn down. I mean that is a near 90 degree angle on the break of that asphalt.

In Ethiopia, asphalt will melt on its own very quickly. Once the temperature reaches about 100 degrees, you can stick the point of a range-pole INTO asphalt and create a divot. If that was from a truck, it would be worn smooth.

Im sure you've already done it Phage, you research but Im throwing this out here for everyone else in case the timeline of our Harrier theory may come into play

en.wikipedia.org...

The plane was such a new deploy to the battlefield that it would have looked very much like a UFO at night, when the ports on this thing opens up for horizontal maneauvers it lights up like a forest fire at night that add in the heat corona and Im sure this looked disturbing to a bunch of villagers!
Next as to proof that the Harrier was deployed in that area is only theory, however, Take in to account the Soviets are pumping in support to a Goverment they wish to keep in place is it a stretch to see another government backing the ELF's. In any war there are two sides. New Tech gets a chance to be proven in a small theater that is blacked out anyway, and bang perfect real-time testing of a new VTOL combat aircraft. I dont see this as a stretch.
But to give you solid proof I can not do that.
Oh and the damage being related to the event. If a villager that has lived here his whole life says that wasnt there yesterday, I'd be iinclined to believe him.

[edit on 28/01/10 by TacticalVeritas]

[edit on 28/01/10 by TacticalVeritas]

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This is some great evidence to go along with a great case.
Did anybody take any pictures of the UFO itself?

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G'day TacticalVeritas

Thank you for your interesting "Harrier hypothesis".



Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by Le Colonel
Phage, I used to enjoy reading your comments, but the longer I am here, and the more I read, I see that you just do everything you can to break apart posts, and for some reason people respect you. Not sure why.

We could not have been there in the 70s to view this, this case will remain unsolved forever.. like most UFO cases.. There just is no way to say either way.. But you seem to know everything.

OP, thanks for sharing this UFO case.. I have not heard of this one. Certainly a strange one.

I disagree. I think that Phage's objections should be easy (or at least possible) to answer: If this story is not baseless somebody should be able to find the person who took the pictures, find the address where it happened. Find names and at least get a corroborating testimony with a name. That is at the bare minimum for the quality of evidence that we should accept, not just a photo tied to a story.

Even that evidence would be incomplete, but it would be much better because it generates leads that can be pursued further.

Otherwise we have to trust the good faith of whoever runs that website. And with good evidence, should that be necessary?

As it stands, who can I (or anyone) call to get a testimony?

-rrr

[edit on 30-1-2010 by rickyrrr]

This was not a UFO ...At least I do not think it was ..

This may have been a air craft of some kind testing out of some nation ....Future air machines ....

Real ET space ships have some sort of anti crash metal ..They can crash but if they do they never have it laying on the ground crumbled up...

However If this was man made or ET they both can crash ...only man made can crash and leave stuff on the ground...ET ships crash and then go right back into place like liquid metal ..



[edit on 30-1-2010 by AndersonLee]

[edit on 30-1-2010 by AndersonLee]

[edit on 30-1-2010 by AndersonLee]

Originally posted by AndersonLee
This was not a UFO ...At least I do not think it was ..

This may have been a air craft of some kind testing out of some nation ....Future air machines ....

Real ET space ships have some sort of anti crash metal ..They can crash but if they do they never have it laying on the ground crumbled up...

However If this was man made or ET they both can crash ...only man made can crash and leave stuff on the ground...ET ships crash and then go right back into place like liquid metal ..

G'day AndersonLee

Why do you think they would test "future air machines" in Ethopia?

How do you know "real ET space ships" are made of "some sort of anti crash metal"?

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

This story mirrors a similar experience I have had. The red glowing ball was a little bigger than my fist and was floating gently slightly bobbing up and down about a meter off the ground. When I saw it I had a fear response after seeing it for a few seconds. It was at that moment that it sped about 250 meters away and into the ground. I ran as fast as I could to the spot that it went into the ground but there was no evidence of impact.

There is more to this story of course. I looked up "red glowing ball" online and could only find yellow glowing ball incidents. Thanks OP.

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The story apparently comes from The Edge of reality: a progress report on Unidentified Flying Objects‎ by Joseph Allen Hynek and Jacques Vallée.

I don't know where they got the story or what, if any, corroboration was acquired but seeing as what the situation was at the time and the location, I doubt any first hand accounts were used by the authors.

There might be cases of seeing metal melt off the saucer UFO.
Thus evidence left behind.

Perhaps the first injury case:

As Vicki reached for the door handle, her hand was burned. She then use a part of her plastic jacket to open the door, and it was melted. She still had the damaged jacket when I interviewed her. Vicki’s hand print was still burned into the dashboard of the car, where she touched it inside. Only microwaves or electrical induction could have heated the car so rapidly and only penetrating radiation, such as ultraviolet, gamma or X-ray, could have caused the radiation sickness and resultant hair loss suffered by all parties, including Betty Cash, who didn’t even leave the car.

A case of damage due to some light in the sky and three holes
left behind:

She left the room and was passing the fuse box in the hall, when she felt a terrible pressure in her head. she put her hands up to her ears just as the blast hit the area. she screamed and fell forward as the fuse box near her exploded, melting all but the glass in the fuses and blowing them the length of the hallway, where the imprint on the back of the fuse was visible on the opposite wall. The light switches were also blown from the walls and the picture tube in TV set was completely shattered.

A video of some assortment but with the buildup of light columns in the
sky at night:



If those light columns in the sky hit the ground we might find out
how powerful free energy is if the ether can truly be disturbed by
high voltage pulses.

ED: There's a forest in Ethiopia.
Well check a few sightings, the craft hides in the forest when lost
or operationally unfit and awaits for rescue craft.
Sounds like the disabled craft got loose before being pulled up
by the rescue ship with proper oscillator coil pulses.


[edit on 1/30/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

Sorry I just cant take it anymore thread after thread phage insist on making claims without "evidence" people believe him without questioning his "theories" they move along happy with what he says and another thread quivers and dies.

STOP LISTENING TO HIM!!!!!

come up with your own conclusions based on the evidence and testimonies at hand.

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Actually, I haven't seen one person agree with me.

Well, maybe one.

[edit on 1/30/2010 by Phage]

I removed my redundant comment

There was no need for me to point out Oatie's post was stupid.

No need at all.....


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