My expiriences from 10 and up

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


I just want to say these little lines.

"All in due time for everything will be shown"

"Patience is the way to understanding, for it is patience that is a virtue here"

Please be patient with me I am limited at times and I can not just ask the higher ups to pull of a giant stunt.

Thank you for your understanding.

Originally posted by Wandering Scribe

The morning dew
Flees away
And is no more
Who may remain
In this world of ours?

Natural, reckless, correct skill;
Yesterday's clarity is today's stupidity
The universe has dark and light, entrust oneself to change
One time, shade the eyes and gaze afar at the road of heaven.

And because I find this one amusing:

Why do you ask questions? If you already knew the flame was fire then the meal was cooked a long time ago.

- Phoenix

Edit: Silly coding mistake ... gah that took too long ... Out of Coffee Error ...

[edit on 3-4-2010 by phoenix_zephyr]

I had an odd experience just around 30 minutes - 1 hour ago. It was a man he wore black robes and had golden armor over the robes. He said something that "Humanity does not deserve to exist" and I spoke back to him saying that "There is more to us then what they see". After I said this I felt as if forced away from the contact and it ended at that. I started raising questions in my mind and addressing things as to what happened.

But the honest truth is.

Who was the man?

Why did he say that?

Why did I have a meeting with him?

This is giving me a headache just by thinking about this.

reply to post by phoenix_zephyr


Ah! A fellow reader of Ikkyu! Nice, nice. I just felt like bringing some of Ikkyu's own views on the world to the table had some meaning here.

Why do you ask questions? If you already knew the flame was fire then the meal was cooked a long time ago.

I believe, that in this instance, mu would be appropriately used.

It's nice to see appreciation of legitimate philosophy is still alive these days. Thank you

[edit on 3/4/10 by Wandering Scribe]

All in due time for everything will be shown

I can show you to the free field
Overcome, and more will always be revealed
Not alone, I'll be there
Tell me when you want to go
Sideways, falling
More will be revealed, my friend...

Patience is the way to understanding, for it is patience that is a virtue here

The volume of emotions, erupting in our souls
A quiet revelation quickly takes a hold
Patience is a virtue, but she won't always wait
Dissension is the tension, it's what we've learned to hate...

Please be patient with me I am limited at times and I can not just ask the higher ups to pull of a giant stunt

Patience is earned, not granted. Any hint of anything at all would earn you respect and a willingness on my part to wait. Instead you keep adding reasons to your story as to why you cannot do anything. That doesn't make me want to be more patient with you. It makes me want you to do anything to give evidence for any part of your claims. Your overlords, your abilities, the Black Ops - any of it. Anything.

Sadly, I fear I know that you will never show that which you say is so easy for you to do.

Please stop calling me a Messiah I am not one because we all are and we are all ET's.

So you're not a messiah... because you are a messiah?

That doesn't make sense.

And I'm not a messiah. I'm just a man with an understanding of the cosmos. Enough so, at least, to know that my place is not among the gods of old or new.

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reply to post by ShadowNinja


Sounds like you had a bad dream mate. Try some water or a nice bit 'o' an old book before bed. Might help you sleep a little easier these days.

~ Scribe

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


Old Black book?????

A friend of mine scanned me without permission once and she was greeted by Michel with a blade. She now is more cautious as to scanning people without permission. Hmmm I wonder if I could try to do something at least then.
What would be the best thing I do not know. Im not even sure if I will be able to pull off anything big for you, with this dam device on my hand. Give me couple days to seek out if I can do something for you. I must seek guidance with this and see if it is allowed and approved by Mother.

reply to post by ShadowNinja


All I said was an old book m'boy. If you find an old black book, go for it. A Tale of Two Cities would work just as well though.

reply to post by ShadowNinja


Why not have Michel come visit me? I'm pushing and probing - albeit non-psychically - so why not just have Michel come and tell me that you are what you say, and that you can do what you claim? If that were to happen then I'd have three undeniable things to sate my thirst:

• A visit from the Higher Astral, Michel
• A Higher Astral telling me you're psychic
• A Higher Astral telling me your message is true

If Michel was so angry about a lady-friend randomly scanning you, he must be absolutely furious about my constant challenging of both his existence, and the abilities you possess that he so fervently defends.

Have Michel come and do something. It wouldn't be hard for him. Time works differently on the Higher and Lower Astral planes than it does here on Earth.

Or, if you wish, I could just give you a message, or a question that I already know the answer to and you could have Michel tell you what it means. That would be an absolutely easy way to once and for all demonstrate that you have access to a working Higher Astral.

Up to you.

Happy Ēostre everybody,

~ Scribe

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


He is not mad at you and he was not mad at her. He was simply being protective and it was wrong of her to do this scan. For scanning with out permission of the person is considered bad and it can cause damage to the person being scanned.


He said I do not need to bother with you and that he is seeing what you trying to do. Also there is a need for faith in you and you need to have more of it for the things to come. The road you are on right now is misleading you and you need to turn in the right direction. For those around you might be friends but behind the truth, they are vultures waiting for the right moment to feed on your flesh.

He also said you need to feel him more and see the truth in the darkness that you are in. For you are always guided scribe no matter what, but it is the road you take which he can not take you off. For it is your task to turn around and see if you have made the right decision. At times when you feel that something is missing look with in and see things from the infinite knowledge that you are given. For the door has been shown to you but it is you that needs to open it.

Remember these words for they are important to you and I wish you luck scribe on your road ahead for it will be a struggling task.

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He is not mad at you and he was not mad at her. He was simply being protective and it was wrong of her to do this scan. For scanning with out permission of the person is considered bad and it can cause damage to the person being scanned.

Scanning someone's energy signature has never, and will never, be harmful to either party. Now, psychically leeching, or psychically attacking someone through their energy signature, that can be harmful physically and mentally. Just reading your energy though, no, that's not harmful at all. Michel has misinformed you.

He said I do not need to bother with you and that he is seeing what you trying to do.

Right. Trying to extract the truth, and attain proof that doing as you say will really lead me to the Great Beyond of Infinite Love and Happiness. Obviously no one should ever ask for proof that anything they're investing their lives in is valid and legitimate.

He's so on to me, using my reason and logic to ascertain the most beneficial and valid spiritual road in life.

Also there is a need for faith in you and you need to have more of it for the things to come.

I have faith. Faith in the one who got me here, faith in the one who died for me. Faith in the one who returned to show me the way. I have faith in the divine that is also human and spirit. I have belief in the one who gave my life purpose and meaning, who lead me where I needed to go and held me up when I was too weak to go on. I have faith.

And it ain't in Jesus.

The road you are on right now is misleading you and you need to turn in the right direction. For those around you might be friends but behind the truth, they are vultures waiting for the right moment to feed on your flesh.

What is the right direction? And what makes the "right" direction different then the direction I am currently going? Please, do tell me everything I accept and follow spiritually, and then compare it to the "right" spirituality to follow.

Concerning friends, name a single friend of mine. When you can name a single one, we'll talk about how they're misleading me.

He also said you need to feel him more and see the truth in the darkness that you are in.

I am surrounded in infinite light. White light from the mouth of infinity engulfs me.

And I have met Michael. And Gabriel, and Uriel, and Rafael, and Acheliah, and many, many others. So Michel is wrong again.

For you are always guided scribe no matter what, but it is the road you take which he can not take you off.

I am always guided. I put my faith in the one who has lead me this far and given my life meaning. I'll follow the One anywhere.

And you're right, Michel can't change my road, because the road you created in your head and ascribed to him does not exist. I won't walk where there is no road.

For it is your task to turn around and see if you have made the right decision.

Done that. It was the right decision.

At times when you feel that something is missing look with in and see things from the infinite knowledge that you are given. For the door has been shown to you but it is you that needs to open it.

If something is missing I just seek out what will fill the hole. When I find it I study it, learn it, and practice is.

You want to talk about doors? OK. Ask your 'Michel' about the 2112. You want discussion on doors, we'll start there.

Remember these words for they are important to you and I wish you luck scribe on your road ahead for it will be a struggling task.

Remember these words:

A soul of water,
A soul of stone,
A soul by name,
A soul unknown.

The hours unmake
Our flesh, our bone,
The soul is all;
And all alone

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


"See the past flesh and bone for inside me is the truth of all.

See me as for what I am not this body that I have.

See the true me and all be still for you will see enough to have your fill.

Look within me and you will find the words I spread in the heavenly night skies.

For there is no need child so spread your wings and fly up high"

I hope that was enough of a hint and a tip.

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


No problem. Thank you also, you've given me a lot of new ideas for researching paths

- Realised I'm probably wrong so removed this bit -

Though I do realise it was also written by Clive Barker?

- Phoenix

Edit: Correction

[edit on 5-4-2010 by phoenix_zephyr]

reply to post by phoenix_zephyr


You're quite welcome. I'm always doing research into the new and the unknown. Only through continuous trial-and-error, mixed with mountains of personal experience do I feel I will finally find my calm center.

If I've inspired you in some way, then great. Inspiration is the greatest gift we can give without strings.

And yes, Clive Barker wrote the small poem. He is my favorite author and a brilliant man. I'm no stranger to quote him from time to time.

reply to post by ShadowNinja


Your words fall short of their mark as pretty little prophecies. They cater not to the Higher Self's enlightened state. They only succeed in hurting my brain through their contradictory notions:

• See the past flesh and bone for inside me is the truth of all

• See me for what I am not this body that I have.

Until you can write a coherent piece that does not contradict it's own nature, how can I ever be expected to believe your theories?

Here is a better, more concise view on life and how it should be lived:

Happiest is he who has nothing left to lose
For when he gives, he gives everything;
Such that nothing may remain,
Of what was once counted amongst his existence.

Into the Great Oblivion one day I shall go,
Hand-in-hand with this Nothingness,
A Nothingness which I claim as my own.

Schadenfreude!
Schadenfreude!

May you extract some Great Pleasure
From my venture into the Unknown

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Originally posted by Wandering Scribe

Happiest is he who has nothing left to lose
For when he gives, he gives everything;
Such that nothing may remain,
Of what was once counted amongst his existence.

Into the Great Oblivion one day I shall go,
Hand-in-hand with this Nothingness,
A Nothingness which I claim as my own.

Schadenfreude!
Schadenfreude!

May you extract some Great Pleasure
From my venture into the Unknown

I like the poem, unfortunately i have no idea who the author is. Would you care to "enlighten" me?

I wasn't familiar with the German word, so i Googled it. It's a very clever poem.

I can't help but think that if you live your life constantly allowing others to take pleasure from it, you will only come out at a loss; but then again, the fact that others are enjoying their life should make you happy, should it not? I guess this is a very complicated moral viewpoint, of what can really make a "true" man happy, and what happiness really is.

But you personally state that "life should be lived" like this. Does this mean you actually try to allow yourself to feel misfortune in a hope that others can gain pleasure from it? I can't help but think of this as a circle effect. Imagine if everyone did this, then there just wouldn't be anything, as we would all be venturing into the Unknown. If we were all in the unknown, we wouldn't be able to feel the happiness - or anything for that matter; just nothingness. It's not a philosophy i care to side with, but i respect its views.



[edit on 6-4-2010 by OrionTri]

[edit on 6-4-2010 by OrionTri]

reply to post by OrionTri


Good reply, OrionTri. I starred it. The poem is actually one of my own. It's simply called "Schadenfreude" and you probably won't find it anywhere online. I only have it posted in 3 places - here, and two others - so don't feel bad if you couldn't find it by searching.

Thank you for the praise on it too. Often I quote others works on my posts here on ATS, but I write too and sometimes I feel my own writings have merit in a conversation.

I can't help but think that if you live your life constantly allowing others to take pleasure from it, you will only come out at a loss; but then again, the fact that others are enjoying their life should make you happy, should it not?

Such is one of the great contradictions of human existence that I often ponder on. The ability to be happy both for our fellow man's success and failure is such an evolutionary set back. The ability to gather some masochistic pleasure because someone has suffered for us. It really is such a horrible thing, but, take the Christians for instance, look how happy they are at the suffering of their savior. They feel they have an obligation to own and oversee this world because of the suffering of one man. It's a very schadenfreude way to live, and it's (one of, if not the) most popular lifestyles in the current world.

I guess this is a very complicated moral viewpoint, of what can really make a "true" man happy, and what happiness really is.

Morality, like all other good things of the human condition, is subjective. As is my poem. Are these the ravings of a lunatic who has lost all humanity as he strips himself down to nothing while crossing the veil? Or are these the words of a man who has found an inner core of human peace that we can only mimic here in life (like the Christians), so now he must prepare to leave us behind as he and his new awareness move forward.

I can't really say. For all of my "enlightened" awareness, I am still learning. Am I Schadenfreude, or is he some echo of what I may become? That is still a question I have unanswered.

But you personally state that "life should be lived" like this. Does this mean you actually try to allow yourself to feel misfortune in a hope that others can gain pleasure from it?

I believe there is a time and place for such actions. Willing sacrifice of one's own comfort level has a price surely, but sometimes the moment of happiness that can be attained by someone if you do allow your own discomfort to help them can be a worthwhile reward.

Love works like that sometimes. We'll hurt ourselves emotionally and mentally for ones we love in ways we'd never consider did we not love them.

Do I endorse it though? No. Not in more then small and recoverable amounts.

Imagine if everyone did this, then there just wouldn't be anything, as we would all be venturing into the Unknown. If we were all in the unknown, we wouldn't be able to feel the happiness - or anything for that matter; just nothingness. It's not a philosophy i care to side with, but i respect its views.

To move beyond emotion as an entire species, may in fact be an evolutionary advancement. Emotion makes us beautiful, just as much as it makes us ugly little children. Such is the contradiction of life, and the contradiction of my poem. It's a beautiful, clever, little ugly thing.

Thanks again for the comments and questions.

~ Scribe

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


Thankyou Scribe. Yeah, i tried googling it, obviously to no avail.

That does make alot of sense actually, most Christians out there are gaining from one mans sacrifice. Actually, whilst i was trying to think of examples of a schadenfreude lifestyle, i missed the most obvious one, Christians.

Well, concerning you being schadenfreude, i don't think you need to ask yourself if you are going to become him, it's whether you want to become him. To me, it sounds lonely. The unknown to me, well it sounds lonely; but it's only human nature to be scared of the unknown, isn't it?

In the words of Ghandi, "become the change you wish to see in the world". One small step for mankind and all that? If you want to change mankind, change yourself. Step into the unknown, and others will undoubtedly follow. We are sheep after all.

I do like that idea. Well, maybe like isn't the right word, but i understand it. Moving beyond emotion. Well, i'm sure that isn't even possible. Moving beyond emotion would mean knowing and controlling it? Well, emotions are just signals from the brain, so moving beyond them would mean controlling your brain. And with control, you'd only allow yourself to feel what you'd like, surely? And i don't know about you, but i like happiness. If i could control my brain i'd remove the aspects i don't want, and just leave the feeling of positives. Love, happiness etc.

Is this what the unknown is? Complete mastery of oneself to allow only what you accept into the "mind"?

I guess i don't know, but i will some day.



[edit on 6-4-2010 by OrionTri]

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Yup. I turned off my personal journal website a little while ago so random people couldn't find my writings unless I invited them. Occasionally the proper search-terms can still bring it up as a fellow user on this site notified me once. But by-and-large it is inaccessible.

A lot of the time I find that these psychological conditions, like schadenfreude, are hidden almost in plain sight. We scratch our brains trying to find "someone who feels good because of another person's pain" thinking that said person has to be some despicable monstrosity. We overlook the Christians because they bury their Savior under metaphorical allusions about Heaven and Hell.

But strip away the fancy parables and what you have is a man, who was flogged, beaten, stabbed, and crucified. A man who is now seen as the idol of a large majority of the population. A population who takes pleasure in their crucified saviors pain and torment, who now wish to see their enemies condemned to Hell fire and banishment for the rest of their days.

Schadenfreude.

Concerning whether or not I'll become Schadenfreude; I agree with you that it is ultimately up to me. Which can be seen all over this board by my unwillingness to "surrender" to a claim without ample evidence of it's purported validity.

Schadenfreude is a little bit different. I've experienced the "road" that is schadenfreude. I've seen the pleasure others can extract from my pains - knowingly or unknowingly. So I do recognize the schadenfreude route as a valid and viable option.

Like everything in my life though, I am eclectic. My philosophy, spirituality, religion and psychology are amalgamations of the truths I have seen in our world. So while I am not Schadenfreude, a piece of him is me.

In my eyes, the greatest thing about the unknown, is just that - we don't know. If I were to take a solitary step into the unknown all by myself, maybe I would find that everyone else had done the same thing on their own time. Or maybe I would be alone. It's all unknown, and I think that indeterminate state of being is quite beautiful.

Ghandi was an amazing individual, and everything you said surrounding his quote makes complete sense.

I've always looked at emotions on dual levels. We have very human emotions, which we feel collectively, or alone by ourselves. Happiness, anger, laughter. I don't think these emotions will ever be fully in our control. The brain's higher functioning abilities (which send out those chemicals like Oxytocin) will always be at the forefront. You can't suddenly hate a good feeling after all.

Maybe though, we can learn to control the higher emotions. The sense of awe or wonderment at seeing the far reaches of the cosmos. The sense of gravity felt at a battlefield where thousands have fallen. The disorientation that comes with your first breaking of Asana, Pranayama and Dhyana in meditation. These things I believe we will one day be able to control by will. Spirituality can be mastered, like breathing.

I think though, that once we learn to do that, we'll have moved beyond simply wanting to feel good, because we'll understand that all emotions are necessary for any emotion to have meaning.

I digress though. I feel I'm preaching some. My own values and beliefs slowly leaking into this conversation. So I'll end on a point of conjunction between us:

Yes. The unknown is complete and total mastery of oneself. What awaits us there? It cannot be known, because when we face it I believe we all face such an awakening alone. As my favorite author says:

Three is the number of those who do holy work
Two is the number of those who do lover's work
One is the number of those who do perfect evil
Or perfect good


* EDIT * If anybody would care to teach me how to get the center, and italics tags to work right the first time, I would greatly appreciate this since I can never seem to get them both to work in conjunction * EDIT*

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