My expiriences from 10 and up

reply to post by Unity_99


Your refusal to respond to my skepticism is very telling of your character. Skepticism is not a negative aspect of human logic. It is quite possibly the only human logic that keeps us honest. By rejecting my skepticism because you "don't have time" to deal with it, you are rejecting one of the "souls" you have been sent to awaken.

This makes you a horrible, horrible Messiah. Which is what you are claiming to be. Your "directive" was to awaken this world. You are casting yourself in a messianic light.

Unfortunately, by rejecting an unbeliever, by refusing to prove your messianic nature to him, you have proven only that you are not the messiah you claim to be. In fact, you are offering more proof to the contrary: that you are a psychologically unstable individual who is in need of counseling.

What kind of a messiah refuses to teach those who do not believe? You make for a lousy Christ and an even worse Buddha.

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There are no Dark-Siders who are secretly manipulating the pollution, nuclear radiation and atomic fallout of our planet. There are only intelligent, logical humans who have made some unhealthy choices. Mankind did not know the folly of the atomic bomb, or the dangerous of nuclear radiation when they invented these weapons of great destruction. But there are no Dark-Siders secretly orchestrating our demise.

If a band of supremely powerful entities and forces could coalesce all of mankind into ignorant self-destruction - what would this band do then? There is no other populated planet with intelligent, logical, evolved life for them to just "move on to" next. This is it, this is all they have.

Quit inventing evil regimes to validate your grossly misaligned ego, the one that seeks to make you a Messiah sent here to banish the evils of the world. You are not the new Jesus, and the Devil isn't running freely through the streets.

There is only you, and the sad, lonely pit of despair you have dug for yourself.

The gods are gone. They have been for some time. And they're not coming back.

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Duality is a part of life, just as much as it is a part of your Messiah-theology. You are the "positive" being of Love and Light sent her to counteract the "negative" council of evil Dark-Siders. Duality, right there in your own claims.

Man and Woman.
Night and Day.
Good actions and Evil actions.
Life and Death.
War and Peace.
Wakefulness and Sleep.
Impulsive actions and Thoughtful action.

Duality is a part of mankind's existence. You cannot escape it, you have already tried to. In your attempt you invented your own dualism to battle and overcome so your ego could feel special and important in our world.

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The worship of sun-gods and sun-saviors has been the most enlightened period in human history next to the scientific revolution that ended the Christian Dark Ages. To say worship of the sun and it's many faces as gods was evil and wrong of humankind is to deny humanity things such as:

• Architecture (from Mesopotamia and Egypt)
• Wine and alcohol (from Mesopotamia)
• Geometry (from Egypt)
• Astronomy (from Mesopotamia and Egypt)
• Basic mathematics (from Mesopotamia)
• Astrology (from everywhere)
• Roman Numerals (Pagan Rome)
• Pi and other mathematics formulas (Pagan Greece)
• Triangulation (from Egypt)
• Writing (from Mesopotamia and Egypt)
• Law codes (from Mesopotamia)
• Funerary rites (from Egypt)
• The concept of zero (India)
• The wheel (Mesopotamia)
• Farming and agriculture (Mesopotamia and Egypt)
• Boats (everywhere)
• Medicine (Hunter/Gathering socieites)

I can make that list longer, if you'd like. All of it are advancements made under the employ of sun-gods and sun-saviors. Move out of your house, don't eat farmed goods, don't use modern medicine, avoid anything with wheels, heck don't even use fire. Don't count, don't read, don't write. Avoid cultural displays and trends. Don't do all of those things if you wish to "break the evil reign of the sun-gods" because ALL of that was created, thought of, developed and/or perfected under sun-god paganism.

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I'll admit, you are advancing in transparency. You're becoming less and less stable, and more and more see-through to those of a higher intellect than you.

Save the world if that's what you're here to do. You say it is, so go on and do it already. Show me a chip, show me your awakening powers. Come on, DO SOMETHING more than yak from a keyboard about how important you are.

Get up and do it.

Or sit back down, close your mouth, and let the real thinkers do the talking.

Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by Unity_99

 

Your refusal to respond to my skepticism is very telling of your character. Skepticism is not a negative aspect of human logic. It is quite possibly the only human logic that keeps us honest. By rejecting my skepticism because you "don't have time" to deal with it, you are rejecting one of the "souls" you have been sent to awaken.

This makes you a horrible, horrible Messiah. Which is what you are claiming to be. Your "directive" was to awaken this world. You are casting yourself in a messianic light.

Unfortunately, by rejecting an unbeliever, by refusing to prove your messianic nature to him, you have proven only that you are not the messiah you claim to be. In fact, you are offering more proof to the contrary: that you are a psychologically unstable individual who is in need of counseling.

What kind of a messiah refuses to teach those who do not believe? You make for a lousy Christ and an even worse Buddha.

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There are no Dark-Siders who are secretly manipulating the pollution, nuclear radiation and atomic fallout of our planet. There are only intelligent, logical humans who have made some unhealthy choices. Mankind did not know the folly of the atomic bomb, or the dangerous of nuclear radiation when they invented these weapons of great destruction. But there are no Dark-Siders secretly orchestrating our demise.

If a band of supremely powerful entities and forces could coalesce all of mankind into ignorant self-destruction - what would this band do then? There is no other populated planet with intelligent, logical, evolved life for them to just "move on to" next. This is it, this is all they have.

Quit inventing evil regimes to validate your grossly misaligned ego, the one that seeks to make you a Messiah sent here to banish the evils of the world. You are not the new Jesus, and the Devil isn't running freely through the streets.

There is only you, and the sad, lonely pit of despair you have dug for yourself.

The gods are gone. They have been for some time. And they're not coming back.

-----

Duality is a part of life, just as much as it is a part of your Messiah-theology. You are the "positive" being of Love and Light sent her to counteract the "negative" council of evil Dark-Siders. Duality, right there in your own claims.

Man and Woman.
Night and Day.
Good actions and Evil actions.
Life and Death.
War and Peace.
Wakefulness and Sleep.
Impulsive actions and Thoughtful action.

Duality is a part of mankind's existence. You cannot escape it, you have already tried to. In your attempt you invented your own dualism to battle and overcome so your ego could feel special and important in our world.

-----

The worship of sun-gods and sun-saviors has been the most enlightened period in human history next to the scientific revolution that ended the Christian Dark Ages. To say worship of the sun and it's many faces as gods was evil and wrong of humankind is to deny humanity things such as:

• Architecture (from Mesopotamia and Egypt)
• Wine and alcohol (from Mesopotamia)
• Geometry (from Egypt)
• Astronomy (from Mesopotamia and Egypt)
• Basic mathematics (from Mesopotamia)
• Astrology (from everywhere)
• Roman Numerals (Pagan Rome)
• Pi and other mathematics formulas (Pagan Greece)
• Triangulation (from Egypt)
• Writing (from Mesopotamia and Egypt)
• Law codes (from Mesopotamia)
• Funerary rites (from Egypt)
• The concept of zero (India)
• The wheel (Mesopotamia)
• Farming and agriculture (Mesopotamia and Egypt)
• Boats (everywhere)
• Medicine (Hunter/Gathering socieites)

I can make that list longer, if you'd like. All of it are advancements made under the employ of sun-gods and sun-saviors. Move out of your house, don't eat farmed goods, don't use modern medicine, avoid anything with wheels, heck don't even use fire. Don't count, don't read, don't write. Avoid cultural displays and trends. Don't do all of those things if you wish to "break the evil reign of the sun-gods" because ALL of that was created, thought of, developed and/or perfected under sun-god paganism.

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I'll admit, you are advancing in transparency. You're becoming less and less stable, and more and more see-through to those of a higher intellect than you.

Save the world if that's what you're here to do. You say it is, so go on and do it already. Show me a chip, show me your awakening powers. Come on, DO SOMETHING more than yak from a keyboard about how important you are.

Get up and do it.

Or sit back down, close your mouth, and let the real thinkers do the talking.

Hey now you are starting to sound like a Op or a worker for Vrill.

She does not have to prove anything. You say how can she do that due to the fact that time is short Scribe and it is getting shorter. Earth is going to be on a collision course with a commet soon. All the signs have been shown and it is time to prepare. Do you know why she does not have time???

Because...

She is trying really hard to prepare and spread the news to people like you who do not see the truth. We want to save many life's and help others to prepare. While all you do Scribe is keyboard everyone and come up with things on how to slow down the time for preparation even more. I mean seriously Unity is working hard to find sites and useful info that can help everyone. I believe she is not going cookie and the comet is very very real Scribe. The Norway spiral was the sign and there are even cave drawings that show the spiral and a message shown to start preparing. I do not know about you but a several thousand year old cave drawing. That matched the prediction and the sign that happened over Norway is enough proof to get ready. So put away your skepticism and start preparing your family and friends. Stock up on food and find a good shelter. Soon it will all be seen and a great panic will break out. So it is important to prepare much earlier before the panic. The reason is that after it will be hard to get things you need. So I believe that things are going to start to happening soon. I even had visions as a child of comets and other things too. So I do believe that cave drawing and the sign that happened in Norway. But we need to save many things books on how to make things,science books, herbal books, reiki books and anything that can help us rebuild a better world.

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


Excuse me real thinkers you mean thinkers like you who during the day lead a normal human life and at night kill entities and ET's and conquer planets. You are not a thinker my friend, you need to think and she is not unstable because I have experienced contact with her. I beg the different my friend the so called Gods you warship so much are gonna be the cause for the slaughter of survivors. I also think that there is something else and that you must be linked to the Zetans or the Dracos. You are starting to effect things and she never said she was the next Jesus or some sort of Messiah. So stop spreading lies about things that she never wrote. We are all equal no matter color, race, health or anything else we are all equal and you need to see this.

Love and light and try to start to awaken more.

reply to post by ShadowNinja


I agree with the message to prepare, and get ready and look for the signs, but we don't know when, all the dates seem to be coded.

Plus, we have to go at this in every way shape or form possible, such as, 1) preparing, and in community, pooling resources, locally getting people aware. For example we cant loose techology or medicine, so we need to prepare, to enlist medical practicioners, nurses, doctors, mechanics, welders, we have to make tools afterwards, have energy, run equipment, make equipment, electrical, just we have to keep and pass on the knowledge, only this time, solar, wind, magnetic, crystal whatever we can do for clean energy.

2) Try to draw our Highest Good, and help. Pull together and pass the test , advance, think of Africa, it is the symbol for this planet, and start to grow feelings and awareness, and hopefully then this cycle (and it was told to me this is a negative ET/negative entity sungod cycle, their karmic trap!) Does the metaphyscis work? I know it does, people have to learn themselves.

Reach into yourself and the infinite beyond and your HS through your heart. Connect to who you are, because we need to have some memories, and activate our psi, and really get prepared, to face whatever is going to happen in community, together, or....draw in Our Highest Good and help.

reply to post by ShadowNinja

Earth is going to be on a collision course with a commet soon.

Show me the proof, Shadow. Scientist can measure all kinds of astronomical rotations, fly-routes, and collision courses. Show me the science stating we're going to enter the course of a comet.

The Norway spiral was the sign

You mean this Norway spiral? Which was actually the vapor trail of a failed missile launch?

I even had visions as a child of comets and other things too.

Comets do not crash into planets. Asteroids break-up in the atmosphere to become meteoroids, and if a meteoroid hits the earth it is a meteorite. Comets follow courses from outside our solar system, through our solar system and back out of our solar system in gigantic oblong orbits.

Three strikes and you're out. You want my skepticism to go away? Then start getting things right. The more you get wrong, the more I'll post the truth concerning your inaccuracies.

We have all the time in the world. So if you want to convince and save millions, start with me. Because the faithful of the world are going to be a whole heck of a lot harder to convert than I am.

~ Scribe

reply to post by ShadowNinja



In response to this I present this quote from her post on:

posted on 26/3/10 @ 07:53 AM

The prime directive I was given as to what my contacts said is to free this planet,

She is here to free this planet, to save it. Savior. Kindly check your facts before you accuse me of putting words into her mouth. She said it, I merely responded to it.

the so called Gods you warship so much are gonna be the cause for the slaughter of survivors.

They are not mine. They belong to all of mankind. I am a Buddhist. I have no god. It is now you who is putting words into my mouth, attempting to tell me what it is that I believe. Please, kindly support your assessments like I do mine.

Go on right ahead and call me a Draconian or someone connected to the peoples of Zeta Reticuli. Call me a Black Operative or one from the Dark-Siders here to upset the balance and unity of the world.

It means nothing.

Every word you waste calling me the Devil is a word you should spend proving who you are and what you claim to be.

~ Scribe

[edit on 26/3/10 by Wandering Scribe]

[edit on 26/3/10 by Wandering Scribe]

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


The directive given to me by the contacts was to free this planet, that is what their agenda is about, and all the different groups that are here, the starseeds, and walkins, that are not from the dark side. And as a child, after watching vietnam on the news, preschool age, I had an experience with my HS, where I was told that I had chosen to come this time, I didn't have to. So obviously we here to free this planet.

I also believe that unless a person is coming here form the negative forces (and most humans aren't) that every single person that is here now, came for this critical time and they must wake up and meditate and start to remember.

Because we have NWO fascism around us, Vrill negative coaltion and a really negative slave agenda, in addition, a cycle that comes at a regular basis, and its up to us, to pull together and get it, like a final exam, and pull in our help, or ....you must get the point.

I was given that mesage too, when I was very upset because two people who had asked questions, caused my memories to deepen, the ones that weren't pleasant, with the greys/zetans. The first time, more came, and after another asked me about some aspects I had shared with her I was very upset, as a flood of memories came, shorts aboard the craft, and I couldnt stand up, had to lie on the couch. That week I was angry and couldnt really deal with anything, couldnt function. Then the contact happened, and after that I was able to let it go, put it into perspective that there were other things far more important, the state of this world, than having some of those memories return.

In fact, I don't want to scratch the surface on the ones like that, and don't talk about them much, because when I do, usually a little more comes, and I don't need those kind of memories in the least.

[edit on 26-3-2010 by Unity_99]

reply to post by Unity_99

The directive given to me by the contacts was to free this planet, that is what their agenda is about

And who's agenda would this be? Who are your masters? And what could you possibly say to convince me that your masters are not the evil New World Order sent here to imprison us? You have to have some kind of proof, otherwise there is no reason for me to believe that you aren't really a Black Ops member.

And as a child, after watching vietnam on the news, preschool age, I had an experience with my HS, where I was told that I had chosen to come this time, I didn't have to. So obviously we here to free this planet.

This is a non sequitur. You saw Vietnam, where the Vietnamese defended their homeland and annihilated our invading butts. Went to pre-school and had a vision. Obviously none of this is true as a preschooler cannot possibly comprehend the higher dynamics needed to meet and converse on an equal plane with their higher self.

Your inability to spell correctly or form proper sentences ("so obviously we here to free this planet") means even as an adult you aren't to the fullest of your potential. A preschooler of your status could never comprehend such a deep message as "save an entire planet".

And how does "I chose to come here" automatically mean "I must free this planet" ? If you "choose" to go into a grocery store, does that mean you "must" free that grocery store?

Because we have NWO fascism around us, Vrill negative coaltion and a really negative slave agenda, in addition, a cycle that comes at a regular basis

Prove the existence of all of these bodies of power, or you're lying.

In fact, I don't want to scratch the surface on the ones like that, and don't talk about them much, because when I do, usually a little more comes, and I don't need those kind of memories in the least.

So you're weak then? Unable to face up to an invented shattered past? Afraid to face even your own fantasies.

It's such a shame that our savior cannot even bear to face her own self-created negative memories.

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I am sure you notice me getting more hostile. This is my natural response when I sense an abundant amount of bollocks in my midst. Until you start demonstrating the existence of your claims, I'll continue to attack them more and more fiercely. Either evidence of the reality of your claims will come forward, or you will forever have me a step behind enlightening those who may be too naive to research what you say.

~ Scribe

Let it slip away, control is a falsity. I'm trying to understand all aspects of myself please forgive me. They have let me out of my cage. The dragon's heart. All beings are helping me at this point. Relax, Love, Its Allways Here. Send out what you need at the time. If you feel fear, push out love. If you feel anxiety push out relaxation, when you feel oneness push out expansion, and live in the moment. When you feel tired, push out awaken, energy.

All beings are helping at this point, give YOURSELF what you need.

If you feel trash, push out beauty. WAKE UP

I'm holding back my ascending state to bring that INTO YOUR EXISTANCE.

Exit-Stance.

By reaching a state of existance you are everything to bring to the all of the one true. We are allready in heaven.

[edit on 27-3-2010 by DarkCyrus]

reply to post by DarkCyrus


That was a very good post. Yes, that is the truth. We have so much help. We can pull in our Higher Good! Also, the real issues aren't the traps TPTB work at, for it doesnt work. They're codes to tie in religions to their "sun gods" and make people commit to this, and to Saturn, even court pledges, documents, our graduation certificates, our funerals, the coding is intense. Now the microchip, coming out near a cylces end? Why?

These guys have cambridge degrees, yale, harvard, yet their blinded and lied to by those dark being they're contracted to. It doesn't matter the religion, or if you've hidden a sun god meaning in it. Everyone means this in their hearts when they mean Creator (THE WHOLE!) Hindus mean many faces of THE WHOLE, or many in one (closer to the phsics of an infinite universe where there could never be a ONE, but always MANY IN ONE!). But it doesnt matter, the schematics, whether your model of the universe is finite (BIG BANG) or infinite! NO ONE MEANS SUN GODS! Thats the key.

And Universal Law is in the heart. So their coding is a trap, a giant pit, that TPTB who did fall into, not their intended victims at all.

Our tests have to do with LOVE and harmony, cooperation, oneness. We need to address starvation, Africa, wars, destruction of nature.

And the message you made is that the help surrounds us, is within us, we can reach within and connect to our SOURCE, HS, and Greatest Good! We have so much help to change this.

We need to prepare for the worst, and hope, wish, yearn for, draw in, the best for times ahead.

If we're tired, reach inside for energy, the force, insight. When confused, and no ideas come, reach inside for insight, clues, goals, the next step, our direction. And always remember we need to give to others. Its all about awareness, and waking up to who we are really.

Those who want to argue this, have very little reason to do so. This thread is in the personal experience and testimony section of the board. This is about sharing, not only things that cannot be proved, but also our own interpretation of them. Those with different interpretations are entitled to share, but continually saying the same thing will never change anyones personal experiences.

ascendingpassage.com...

'O Solon, Solon, you Hellenes are but children, and there is never an old man who is an Hellene.'

Solon, hearing this, said, 'What do you mean?'

'I mean to say,' he replied, 'that in mind you are all young; there is no old opinion handed down among you by ancient tradition, nor any science which is hoary with age. And I will tell you the reason of this: there have been, and there will be again, many destructions of mankind arising out of many causes.

There is a story which even you have preserved, that once upon a time Phaethon, the son of Helios, having yoked the steeds in his father's chariot, because he was not able to drive them in the path of his father, burnt up all that was upon the earth, and was himself destroyed by a thunderbolt. Now, this has the form of a myth, but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving around the earth and in the heavens, and a great conflagration of things upon the earth recurring at long intervals of time: when this happens, those who live upon the mountains and in dry and lofty places are more liable to destruction than those who dwell by rivers or on the sea-shore; and from this calamity the Nile, who is our never-failing savior, saves and delivers us.

When, on the other hand, the gods purge the earth with a deluge of water, among you herdsmen and shepherds on the mountains are the survivors, whereas those of you who live in cities are carried by the rivers into the sea; but in this country neither at that time nor at any other does the water come from above on the fields, having always a tendency to come up from below, for which reason the things preserved here are said to be the oldest.

The fact is, that wherever the extremity of winter frost or of summer sun does not prevent, the human race is always increasing at times, and at other times diminishing in numbers. And whatever happened either in your country or in ours, or in any other region of which we are informed--if any action which is noble or great, or in any other way remarkable has taken place, all that has been written down of old, and is preserved in our temples; whereas you and other nations are just being provided with letters and the other things which States require; and then, at the usual period, the stream from heaven descends like a pestilence, and leaves only those of you who are destitute of letters and education; and thus you have to begin all over again as children, and know nothing of what happened in ancient times, either among us or among yourselves.

As for those genealogies of yours which you have recounted to us, Solon, they are no better than the tales of children; for, in the first place, you remember one deluge only, whereas there were many of them; and, in the next place, you do not know that there dwelt in your land the fairest and noblest race of men which ever lived, of whom you and your whole city are but a seed or remnant. And this was unknown to you, because for many generations the survivors of that destruction died and made no sign.

www.cbcg.org...
The Ipuwer Papyrus.

Plague is throughout the land .... blood is everywhere. The land turns round [over] as does a potter's wheel .. Earth turned upside down ... land upside down. Human beings thirst after water ...what shall we do? All is ruin...

Cattle are left to stray, and there is none to gather them together ... trees are destroyed .. .no fruits, no herbs are found ... grain has perished on every side ... that has perished which yesterday was seen. The land is left to its weariness like the cutting of flax. Gates, columns, and walls are consumed by fire. The sky is in confusion ... and the fire ran along upon the ground. Lower Egypt weeps ... the towns are destroyed.. Upper Egypt has become waste ... all is ruin. The residence is overturned in a minute.

www3.bc.sympatico.ca...
Much found in history here.

www.planetxvideo.com...

The Latin author Pomponius Mela, from the first century wrote:

The Egyptians pride themselves on being the most ancient people in the world. In their authentic annals ... one may read that since they have been in existence, the course of the stars has changed direction 'four' times, and that the Sun has set twice in the part of the sky where it now rises today.

www.sacred-texts.com...
The sacred texts of the Mayans, the Popol Vuh.

What speaks more than a skeptic, and more than current media, nasa, leaders, scientists all with vested interests, pictures that are worth a thousand words, surprisingly often carbondated at 3600-3800 years, and scattered throughout the world, but many are located:

the highest mountains along the west coast of Norht and South America, the contintental divide? Interesting!

www.the-rabbits-hole.com...

The only delusional anyone could have is, 1) not look for answers when its right in our face, 2) I'd considered it pretty delusional to share sitings of crafts, and not be the only one in your family with contact occurring, and walk away, scratching your bottom, refuse to wake up and research. In the end you say, thats not fair, when was I told, when was I warned? Hmmmm......

Paying attention is important, and knowing how much help we have!

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


Woah, now let's pull back some of those blows now shall we

Now, I respect a lot of what you write and generally try and remain neutral, observing the discussion, but you seem to be making personal attacks against Unity rather than her theories/beliefs.

Disclaimer: This is not me taking anyone's particular "side", mearly trying to get back to what this website is about, Denying Ignorance. So let's try and do this in a friendly fashion and not take pot shots at each other, shall we?

Just because someone cannot write in perfect english or whatever language is their mother tongue, that doesn't mean that they cannot comprehend various things. Whilst someone's spelling and grammar can be an indication of the level of their education or understanding, it is by no means a hard and fast rule. Though in this instance, I will conceed that an 8 year old would probably not be able to fully grasp or understand such a concept as what Unity states.

As for being "weak" for not wanting to recall memories? A little below the belt don't you think? I personally have memories I'd rather not recall. I've come to terms with the memories but that still doesn't mean I want to remember them, I've moved on but does me not wanting to remember them make me weak also?

I understand perfectly where you're coming from, I've been facinated with Physics since I was a child, from the tiniest particles to the awe inspiring universe. If someone had seen or done something, I wanted proof. Seeing is believing and all that, though at times even we know that our senses can be fooled, that we can't always believe what we see or hear, a kind of misdirection of the senses. As you stated, even memories themselves are in and of themselves flawed by their very nature.

So how do you go about proving something? Sure you've got scientific methods and cameras and sensors and all that jazz, but how do you go about proving something you can't see or something that has happened to you with none of that to hand?

For example, how do you prove to someone that atoms and molecules exist? Sure, we *know* they exist now, but only because we managed to invent something that could actually observe them, thus proving a theory correct. Atomic theory has been around in some fashion or other since the 2nd century, mainly as philosophical reasoning rather than scientific experimentation though. Even up until recently (the past couple of centuries), no-one could prove the existence of these particles yet they still maintained that they did exist, a leap of faith so to speak. Incidently, how do you prove to someone that faith exists?

Even now, we're trying to find proof of the so called "god particle", the Higgs boson, a scalar elementary particle. It's theorised to exist, but we don't know if it does or not. If it is found to exist, then it will explain some of the inconsistencies in current theoretical physics.

But what if we can't find it?

What if it turns out not to exist?

Well, then we fall back on our next best guess. Which is all any of us can do. We take all that we observe, whether natural, supernatural or scientific and make our own best guess based on our current limitations.

Phoenix

Edit: Clarification

[edit on 27-3-2010 by phoenix_zephyr]

Check this out, it explains currently what is happening, in a science way that could change our history books forever.

Multiverse
www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 27-3-2010 by DarkCyrus]

Scribe there are drawing that predate about 3ooo years ago and it shows the Norway spiral that has happened. The message shows to be ready and prepare. So what ever it is science does it has been predated 3000 years ago or more.

But in any case I have no time to chat with you back and forwards. I have to prepare and get others ready too.

@ Phoenix, Unity & Shadow

I admit I might have let my emotions get the better of me there for a while. The seemingly rhetorical tautology off-set my base. I'll do better to hold my tongue when it get's sharp from now on. My apologies Shadow and Unity for my demeanor as of late.

I admit that I "lost sight of the ball" for a little while there. Only though, because Unity and Shadow both began expressing personal odysseys and "directives" that they have been given. While I do try my best to attack a theory and not the person, in the case of Unity being told she is this planets great awakener the theory and the person were one-in-the-same. I will do my best to find a better way of approaching people's claims of universal importance, so that I don't seem to be directly attacking them.

The grammar response was heat of the moment, and I apologize Unity, for making it. My normally active self-restraint and self-editing just wasn't working too well when I posted that. I have noticed your struggles before with the English language and I believe that Phoenix may be right that English is not your native tongue. I'll do my best to take your grammar with a grain of salt from now on.

The claims of "weakness" for the inability to face ones' past, is a personal ethic or my own. In my own life I have had to face my past, and the negative memories and emotions that wait there, in order to better myself. While I accept that not everyone can do this, I guess I sometimes lose sight of that, knowing that I was able to grow spiritually and psychologically by doing so.

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The physical science vs. faith argument is one where I fear my position is consistently misunderstood. Not that I don't know why, because I'm well aware that my skepticism may make me seem to be "atheist" in every sense. However, let me try to clarify some for everyone where exactly I stand on the line between science and faith:

I consider myself to be a man of science by necessity. Meaning that I understand the pursuits of science help humanity evolve mentally, physically and emotionally. I understand that through physics and astronomy, biology and evolution, we have come to a greater understanding of the mechanisms of our world and Universe. We can now calculate the age of the Universe, the rotations of our planet and our neighboring planets. We can map out rogue asteroids and comets, predicting their maneuvers and flight-paths. We can do a lot of great things to protect ourselves out there.

As well, science has given us a much deeper understanding of the human body, brain and our environment. Through science we have cured disease, built lodgings, invented medicine, saved lives, prolonged life, developed great languages and arts. We've done so much because science has never stopped questioning in it's endless pursuit of knowledge and answers. Because of this, I feel that science is a necessity to the human condition. A disregard of science is a blatant misuse of all that it has given us in the past couple thousand years.

On the flip-side of that coin I find that spirituality and faith are a personal odyssey that should also be explored by everyone to their own comfort levels. The human mind and body are capable of extremely glorious things. And while science does have a definitive grasp as to how they all work (pineal gland and psychic powers, frontal lobe and thought-forms, bio-electric magnetism, natural radiation, etc) I feel that just because we understand them, does not make them any less miraculous.

Take the Buddhist monks who can control their heart-rate and body temperature to such an extent where NASA is now looking into their methodology to make astronauts safer while in orbit. Sure, neurological overrides cause the body of a monk to be able to do it, but consider the intense spiritual mission those monks endured to learn it.

As another example, take the existence, or non-existence, of spirits and the deceased. Great lengths have been made by science to explain - or explain-away - these beings. Left over emotions, loitering radiation, psychological diseases and more. However, when it comes right down to, if you hear the voice of a loved one, or see a friendly deceased neighbor, or you get traveling scents and aromas of past lovers - it doesn't matter what the science is. Someone you cared about, who cared about you, is doing something to help you out, or comfort you.

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So the conclusion is this: science has to be able to explain it. If science has an explanation, then it doesn't matter if your "power" is teleportation and you can move through solid, terrestrial planets: I'll listen because science says "what you say, it's real. We may not have it documented, but we know it can happen."

To discard science though, to say that it 'doesn't have all the answers' is to discard the answers it has already found. Our universe works because of scientific laws. If those laws are wrong, then our universe shouldn't be operating.

With that said, and a little bit more of my history revealed, maybe everyone here can understand a little better why "I say it happened" isn't good enough for me to convert and change my way of living. I need something more. The rest of my universe shouldn't be working if your theory, which isn't supported by working science, is right.

~ Scribe

reply to post by ShadowNinja


Shadow, I would like to see these cave-drawings showing the Norway spiral that are 3000 years old. Link please?

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


www.the-rabbits-hole.com...

There you go good chap enjoy. The spiral shows as the sign in the cave drawing to start preparing to head for the mountains. But the question is Are the Mountains really safe????

hmmm in many cases we have to look and prepare for the other signs by searching for what is happening.

People of Earth and Aware Walk In Beings

It is time for us to Unite as One Nation, One People and One Universe.
We need to put our feet down firmly on the ground and say "No" in one voice as a untied species that we are. There is no law or control but yet we choose to follow the oppressors rules and being treated like cattle. We need to see the truth and the real picture behind what is happening while we look into a different direction.

This is our land, the land of the free and willing for a better future in this world and time. There is a need for truth in this world and we can do it together and show that we will not back down. That the human race deserves to have a better and brighter future without this control. Give to the poor, help out people, give love and hope to all that suffer. Even those that do not suffer at all give them love and affection. We can change this world by doing the most simple things.

At times I see people helping others, they give me faith and hope that this can go into a different direction. The world can be changed by us with the tiniest gift of love and a smile on someones faces.

So lets all do our best to rebuild a new world after this one and bring in the new age. The age of learning, love and affections providing a better future for our children and theirs.

That is all and prepare, intake knowledge you will need and seek the net for the signs. The spiral has been showen but there will be other signs as well. Be on the look out

reply to post by ShadowNinja


I do admit that the surplus of spiral pictographs is staggering in ancient cave drawings. However, I must disagree with the website author since none of those spiral pictographs actually represent the Norway spiral.

The Norway spiral started as a blue steak coming up from the horizon (the missile launch) which quickly deteriorated into the spiral formation because the missile spiraled out of control. The contrail behind it becoming the spiral. In full pictures of the Norway spiral, like this you can clearly see the spiral's point of origin just near the horizon.

Concerning ancient cave-art spiral pictographs: any course of anthropology, mythology, world religions or linguistics sometimes even, would help you learn that the ancients believed the world to exist in three stages (sometimes more). These three stages being: the Overworld (Heaven), the Earth, and the Underworld (Hell). The portal between these worlds was often illustrated as a spiral going clockwise, or counterclockwise to determine which world it lead to. The reason that death and destruction is usually seen nearby is that someone has died and they are going to the Afterlife, either Heaven or Hell.

Several of those illustrations with goats nearby are simply stating the time of the season. The goats come out in Spring, when life is rejuvenated. Goats and their herders, men, are rising above the deceased winter world. Spring brings new life. The spiral pictograph is really interesting, but is unfortunately not a mysterious event. It is a known and proven event.

And, finally, concerning the "ancient Egyptian manuscripts" present on the site - none of them are actual Egyptian manuscripts. The only "destroyer" in all of Egyptian religion was Apep, the serpent who tries to swallow the sun. And Egyptians, their Gods, and their imported deities were always strong enough to defeat Apep since they had to do it every night. None of those "Egyptian" scriptures about creation or the destroyer are real.

I'm a devout follower of E.A. Budge's work. He was the first one to translate Egyptian hieroglyphs and he spent his life decoding and transcribing Egyptian writings. He put out in book form nearly every Egyptian religious writing in existence, and I own all that he put out. None of them contain any of those lines and descriptions about stars or destroyers or any of that.

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Hmmm..... Scribe I think its time we talked off the forum. If it is ok with you to do so. But yeh just U2U me and we can talk on msn or what ever suits you best.

reply to post by ShadowNinja


I'm curious as to why you think whatever it is, it needs to be discussed off-forum. What could you hope to talk about with me that you wouldn't want to discuss with the others who might be following your theories? Go ahead and u2u me if you wish, maybe I'll hand out my screen-handle, maybe I won't. I still think it's odd though to openly say you've got something secret to discuss, especially since your whole point here is to deliver a message of awakening and hope to everyone .

I'll await a u2u if you so desire.

~ Scribe