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posted on Mar, 17 2010 @ 02:05 AM
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Races I am familiar with and met are as followed.

Zetan

Annunnaki

Type 1 Grey

Type 2 Grey

Pleoshan

Nordic

Shifter

Elohim

Altair

MIBs

Hybrids

Other races as well but they never told me the name.

But I think most are visited by many and the list must be huge if we put it all together.



posted on Mar, 17 2010 @ 06:18 AM
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My energy recognition leads me to grass roots cases that are very interesting, and people who often become friends as we share with each other. The more famous ones I often treat as suspicious, except, as I said I shelf information and then sometimes it leads me back to studying more. Right now, I'm on a search for Saturn information, or related. Someone linked the light ship, high council craft, to Saturn and something he had seen in dreams, meditation or astral, and asked me if I had ever seen Saturn in an experinece. I said I had a memory of being onboard a craft, years ago, and seeing the rings of Saturn approach. The light ship was the only one out of my sightings that I doubt anyone else would see, I think it was related to the rushes of vibrations going through me, I don't know for sure. I had no time to call my son out. The contact had said that was Sirian Council and Sirian/Ple'o'sha'n Council, and until then I had no idea there were joint ones, also cultural exchange, and have no real idea what that meant.

The races would be: zetan and other greys. I don't know all the races, one thing greys don't do is identify. Some of the greys are negative with ego, and some are very gentle, with a female or just very gentle feeling as they communicate. They usually just do the medical thing they are planning, but sometimes connect and calm me down, the genlte ones. The one prior to our April 17th abduction was a very gentle one.

Vague memories of a preying mantis, elder, who could be a grey elder, but if so, he's not the same race again, because as a child, he looked more like a preying mantis. Reptilian, this was a postcard contact that was attempting something, putting me to sleep really fast, but I had a choice, and in a split second woke up and got up. That was days after seeing a black triangle at night, then 2 days of seeing a perfect huge, low cloud ship in the afternoon that gave me a strong warning signal. I hurried inside. Went out a moment later and this 60-70 foot cloud was completely gone, though the smaller clouds were the same, just drifting. My son called me out for this too the next day. Then the contact. I have no idea if he was good or bad, I would pressume if negative he wouldnt give me a choice. But I didnt trust him anyway. Though he had really strong energy, really rich vibrant energy that he projected at me so I would want to talk to him for hours, but I got up. Have no idea if he was annanuki from here, Orion, or from elsewhere.

The cosmic humans are harder to pinpoint where they are from, except for the andromedans. The ones who identified: Sirian, Andromedan, Taurus/Telos. The taurus man who identified from Taurs and Telos said they were 65 light years away. Later I looked up the Taurus constellation and aldebaran was 65.1 light years away, which surprised me. The others have not given location. I don't know who the ones that feel like my family, very spiritual ones, often connect when I'm driving long distance and monitore me, follow me, greet me, and project feelings of safety, and have communicated messages. The men have long blond hair and wear blue. When I was asking about certain locations from someone who had very interesting energy himself, he said I knew enough already, and that it was dangerous to ask more.

That doesnt help in the least, until the entire cosmos manual is known once more to me, I won't be stopping, its a core need to remember and know everything. But its also really trying to find my people. An experience of contact I had, where someone wrote to me out of the blue the next day and described it, after initiating the conversation, was connected to another system I'm not sure I'm going to name. I have not heard of any contact experience from that system, though in a sense its close to the others. All of these systems are in our sector of the galaxy. The galactic neighborhood, so to speak, with the exception of andromeda galaxy, yet we're on the edge of the milky way here, kind of convenient location for intergalactic federation/organization type things. And earth is a join project by many races and an intergalact living library at that. Humans and the many species here are intergalctic.



posted on Mar, 17 2010 @ 03:20 PM
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Thank you for the prompt reply, ShadowNinja.

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• By Zetan, you do mean the race of Grays from Zeta Reticuli - correct?

• The Annunaki are terrestrial gods from ancient Sumeria who were created and lived on the Earth. They're not from beyond the stars. The Igigi are the race of skyward deities from Mesopotamia. I'm afraid this is a glaring oversight in your story.

• Gray Type 1, and Gray Type 2... How might these be different from the Zetans hailing from Zeta Reticuli?

• Pleoshan, I must say I am not familiar with the Pleoshan. Are they a race hailing from the Seven Sisters?

• Nordic, I assume you're referring to the 'humanoid' giants who generally visit the homes of contactees to request their silence?

• Shifter, by this do you mean a 'shape-shifter,' like in ancient religious lores from across the world?

• The Elohim are again not a race of aliens. The term simply means "god" and is a reference to many lesser-used deities from Mesopotamia who were later adopted by Abraham and his blood-god.

• Altair, would this be a race from the Aquila constellation / star system?

• Men in Black, are we talking American, German, Nordic, European or possibly the lesser known African Men in Black?

• Hybrid races, like super-soldiers such as yourself? Or Gibson Praise? Maybe you're referring to the impending threat of colonization? Care to clarify?

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For now I'm willing to overlook your inaccuracies with the Elohim, Annunaki, and shape-shifters because I'm still curious about the races you've mentioned that I was not familiar with.

~ Wandering Scribe

* Edit for typos *


[edit on 17/3/10 by Wandering Scribe]



posted on Mar, 17 2010 @ 03:47 PM
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While I would like to dig deeper into your account (and I fully intend to), I have just a few preliminary questions / concerns about what I have just read. Whether or not you consider these attacks on your claims or not, is entirely up to your own subjective viewpoint. These are simply objective observations I have made concerning your claims and experiences.

• You have memories about Saturn, and other saturnine experiences. Unfortunately, Saturn is one of our solar systems Gas Giants. Saturn is a sphere who's composition changes thusly: Hydrogen gas become liquid Hydrogen, beneath the liquid Hydrogen is a layer of liquid Helium, below this the liquid Hydrogen is pressurized and turned into liquid metallic Hydrogen. It is also believed that at the core, a mass 10 times that of Earth's exists. This combination - mixed with it being outside of the "liveable" zone of our sun, makes Saturn an impossible choice for housing life of any kind.

• Are the Ple'o'sha'n somehow different from ShadowNinja's Pleoshan race? I know the apostrophe use is an attempt to make the language somehow non-human, but, ShadowNinja's lack of apostrophes and your use of them makes me curious about who is right and who is wrong. Further, if they are one in the same race, what is their origin, history and story?

• There's no complaint from me on "storing and gathering information" for later use. Every good researcher always does this. Your 'shelving' of famous peoples' cases though, seems a bit suspicious. Why only famous peoples' cases?

• You mentioned "Astral" and "Dreams" and "Meditation". Unfortunately you didn't really answer my original inquiry into what kinds of meditation. As for 'dreams' and 'astral' I could go into great depth over both of those since they are predominantly spiritual avenues, not born of the aeroform sub-culture. If you'd like, I would be happy to explain the history and practice of Astral encounters, or the science behind dreams.

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As usual, an interesting read, but, still not quite convinced of your extraordinary claims. I'm open to continue communication on these topics if you've more information to share.


~ Wandering Scribe



posted on Mar, 17 2010 @ 05:53 PM
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No, I recall approaching the rings of saturn. I dont recall anything else, so thats where my research is, I've heard of Robert Miles, if I can remember his name, and need to look again. But for his case to be true, that would need to be a higher dimension, or....Saturn isnt what we think, or its one of the moons.

There are also possiblities of astroids near that area. I do have memories of a hollowed out astroid.

THe light ship surely wasn't on our frequency channel. The multiverse to me is all at once, and being in any spot in time and frequency/plane, is a channel dialed or tuned into. That is how I see it. But, it was a council craft, that much I am sure of.

[edit on 17-3-2010 by Unity_99]



posted on Mar, 17 2010 @ 07:35 PM
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Well... I have a theory you may like to try (the OP or anyone who can do psi balls). Next time you decide to make a psi ball try this. I am able to make small ones, but I am not very experienced yet.


When you want to make a psi ball, imagine it compressing and imagine feeling a heat like that of the ones you get from fire over your skin for a while. The prickly sting of fire. Compress it to as small a pen point as possible with that feeling of fire and heat, and see if you can light any small twigs with it. Imagine the feeling as white hot, and in a small very concentrated prick to light things with. If this works after you try it, record it on video.

Maybe you can try this with other elements like wind or water, or maybe even electricity? If you fear this will harm you don't do it, but it sounds very interesting. I think that water would have a healing effect if used on someone. Maybe you can imagine a dark psi ball, almost like a black hole?
Try channeling emotions into the psi ball and sending it to people.

I hope you are inspired to experiment with my ideas. You may find yourself good at something like pyrokinesis! U2U me if you accomplish anything.

[edit on 17-3-2010 by Phlynx]



posted on Mar, 17 2010 @ 08:42 PM
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www.wingmakers.co.nz...

This site is quite controversial. But the excercises, on the right, all the links are very good information. This link is for the psi ball.

www.wingmakers.co.nz...
Advanced energy and chakras.

www.wingmakers.co.nz...
Tachyon Energy

www.wingmakers.co.nz...
zero point energy

www.wingmakers.co.nz...
fifth force energy

www.wingmakers.co.nz...
Energy Centers and Telepathy

There are so many links. The names are catchy and probably meaningless really. But the excercises themselves are all very interesting.

Energy work is very real, and developing this is important. I would practice the others first before psi balls.

Also, to draw in the light,through your crown and envision your inner star, in your torso, spinning clockwise, and flooding your body, your cells, every organ.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 04:09 AM
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Scribe

It is pointless as I already explained about races before and no the Elohim are not god only humans refered us to that. Which I do think is strange.

The Elohim are a real race of aliens and very spiritual.

But...

I will not explain more it will only lead into ego battle between me and you. Which always happens when me and you start talking. So I suspect you with somethings, Sorry to say that. I will just post and up date my thread on experiences.

If you and Unity want you can carry on your discussions and what seems from the side line as if you wind her up to get her to talk.

So for the final note....

I CAST MAGIC FIRE BREATH AT THE DARKNESS!!!



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 04:15 AM
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Originally posted by Phlynx
Well... I have a theory you may like to try (the OP or anyone who can do psi balls). Next time you decide to make a psi ball try this. I am able to make small ones, but I am not very experienced yet.


When you want to make a psi ball, imagine it compressing and imagine feeling a heat like that of the ones you get from fire over your skin for a while. The prickly sting of fire. Compress it to as small a pen point as possible with that feeling of fire and heat, and see if you can light any small twigs with it. Imagine the feeling as white hot, and in a small very concentrated prick to light things with. If this works after you try it, record it on video.

Maybe you can try this with other elements like wind or water, or maybe even electricity? If you fear this will harm you don't do it, but it sounds very interesting. I think that water would have a healing effect if used on someone. Maybe you can imagine a dark psi ball, almost like a black hole?
Try channeling emotions into the psi ball and sending it to people.

I hope you are inspired to experiment with my ideas. You may find yourself good at something like pyrokinesis! U2U me if you accomplish anything.

[edit on 17-3-2010 by Phlynx]


thanks for the tip and I will try it. I have tried the Electricity one and I got zapped lol


But..

I will still try to do it and try out this great tip.

Thank you.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 10:31 PM
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Elohim (אֱלהִים) is a Hebrew word which expresses concepts of divinity or deity, notably used as a name of God in Judaism. It is apparently related to the Northwest Semitic word ʾēl (אֱל) "god". Within Hebrew, it is morphologically a plural, in use both as a true plural with the meaning "angels, gods, rulers" and as a "plural intensive" with singular meaning, referring to a god or goddess, and especially to the single God of Israel. The associated singular Eloah (אלוה) occurs only in poetry and in late Biblical Hebrew, in imitation of Aramaic usage.

Elohim means God. Etymology disagrees with your new-age drivel. The whole of the Jewish race, history, the Middle East and linguistics disagree with you. If you feel like revising all of linguistics, history, religion and spirituality then by all means, start by converting every Jew on the planet. I'm sure they'd love to learn that they're use of Elohim to refer to their God is wrong.

Good luck with that.

If there is a "problem" with wishing to understand where these various races come from - their histories and genealogies - then I must say that they should never be trusted on any other subject which they bring to the table. For instance, if a man came to the United States and said that he deserved to be president, the first thing any intelligent person would want to know is who he is, where he is from, and what he has done in the past to deserve such accreditation. If your space alien races feel you don't deserve to know this about them, and you believe them, then I feel sorry for your gullibility.

Again, good luck with that.

Finally, you don't really understand what the 'ego' is that spiritualists speak of, do you? The 'ego' is not the desire to understand. The 'ego' is the refusal to consider the whole of existence in your inquiries. By asking to know about your contacts and connections I am not feeding my 'ego,' I am protecting my all-mighty spirit from being consumed by these mysterious beings. Beings who feel they can own and command us without explaining themselves.

However, you don't seem to care who you put in charge of your spirit and soul. If the Rakshasa came and inquired after your soul, saying he was your mentor, you'd probably sell it to him too without a second thought.

But I digress. You obviously know nothing, choosing instead to believe every radio frequency you come in contact with. Good luck with that. Don't forget your tinfoil hat.

~ Scribe



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 10:44 PM
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www.abovetopsecret.com...
I Need Feedback On This 'Abduction' Experience !(part 1);

www.abovetopsecret.com...
part 2

Experiences with elohim.



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 11:11 PM
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First off, Woodwytch only states that the being was a "gray," in this quote:


Standing beside my bed was (what I can only call), a 7ft 'being' ... of humanoid form and facially similar to descriptions given of 'Greys' ... with the familiar large, black almomd-shaped eyes. However, it wasn't of solid substance ... more a kind of pure light-energy ... and it certainly wasn't grey ... it was the most beautiful ... shimmering ... almost translucent blue/white


Now, a 'gray' does not mean an 'elohim' because the grays are described as looking like this.

Any study of what the Elohim look like will show you they don't look like that. They look like this.

Any "alien" encounter can't automatically be used to describe the (insert race here) aliens. And clearly Elohim is a specific word, from a specific language, centered around a specific culture, which has a specific meaning. Which is not "alien" but "God."

~ Scribe


[edit on 18/3/10 by Wandering Scribe]



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 02:23 AM
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Nope not specific word or language and no we are not called god. Due to a funny thing that happened the human history gave us a very odd name. But due to the facts we do not know why our race is named that. It just is and just was.

Thank you for the writing though.


I forgive you for anything you did and for the things you will do. I give you internal love and light from the skies and clouds above.

Be blessed child and you will realize the truth soon. Just like all of us will.

[edit on 19-3-2010 by ShadowNinja]



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 03:52 PM
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Let me get this straight, ShadowNinja. You are an alien?

And you're still wrong about the Elohim reference.

When you disprove the entire Jewish religion, and it's history, I'll consider that 'Elohim' does not mean God.



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 04:10 PM
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I'm gonna start this by telling you i like you. I don't know what, but something about you i like; i don't know whether if it's your hunger for truth and willingness to keep an open mind in a search for just one tiny bit of truth, or the fact very little evidence is presented and you still search. Either way, i like you - but you don't need me feeding your ego, so that's enough of the compliments.

I'm gonna try and help convince you - or atleast offer you the idea - that Elohim is actually a race.
We're gonna start with the Etymology.


Elohim (אֱלהִים) is a Hebrew word which expresses concepts of divinity or deity, notably used as a name of God in Judaism.


Now, you already said that, but i'm gonna try and present you with an idea that you may for as far out or "out-there" but i'm going to try.
Judaism and the Abrahamic religions aren't actually monotheistic. Okay, you make be scared right now - you may even be shaking in your seat; but i understand you're a patient person so here me out.

Names of God.

Okay, think about all the different names of God and the fact we have no clue if they were actually all referring to the same God or a few different Gods. Elohim is a name given to God in the Old Testament but so are Adonai, Roi and Shalom; these are just examples, obviously there are many others.
Roi refers to “The God Who sees". Now, this is generally taken as a name for a certain aspect of God, but let us view it from a polytheistic opinion.
Shalom refers to God meaning "Peace", but imagine this as another God rather than a certain aspect of God. See where i'm going? There are many names for many different aspects or personalities of God, but does this not seem similar to many other Polytheistic religions where you have "a god of fire", "a god of war" etc?

Okay so now i'm gonna go crazy. Think of the Ancient Astronaut theory, and the fact that we were created by Aliens or Ets. So many different races all created us, but we wouldn't just call them one, we'd be able to distinguish between one race and another. Maybe one race showed us something, one race showed us another - this is where the idea of a God of peace of a God of fire comes from. Maybe, all the different aspects of the Abrahamic God, were all just actually different races that have helped us on our way. Does this make a little more sense now?
Elohim was a race of Ets, but it is also the name given to a certain part of what we thought was God; but we now know that God is a universal name given to all Ets, and any aspect of God is just a different race. Comprende?

I just thought i'd explain this in more detail. So feel free to pick apart points etc, i'm sure you will anyway. After all, you wont be the only one learning from criticism.

Namaste.



[edit on 19/3/2010 by JacobNH]



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 08:36 PM
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First off, I'll reject no ego-stroking if someone wishes to do it. But you're right, I don't need it. I'm content in my understanding of things as they are, and I have no resentment towards advancing and changing my conceptions of reality, so long as ample evidence and proof is presented. That being said, I do intent to delve into your claims which include some of my favorites: polytheism, panspermia, paganism, monotheism, the trinity and the like.

I'll preface this by letting you, and anyone else reading, know that theology is one of my strong suits. I prefer the study of faith and spirituality far more than the pursuit of science and psychology. I also understand that all of them go hand-in-hand with each other. So I'm able to see the parallels among them. So, here we go:

God does not have various names in Tanach texts. The various terms you brought up (Elohim, Adonai, Ab, El, etc) are also each their own words. Ab for instance means "father" so it is like saying "God the father," not the "Father God". Adonai means lord, so this usage would be when the Jews were saying "The Lord, God." On and on. A simple dictionary reference to these Hebrew terms will supply you with their meanings. Wikipedia also does so nicely too.

Religious history does, in some ways, follow your claims. At a certain point in the time-line. Religious belief develops something like this:

Ancient Bear Cults of the pre-humans. One belief is that early man would see these bears enter caves for entire months, and then re-emerge. Giving the belief that the bear had some kind of mystical power to regenerate itself.

Slowly these nomadic bands formed communities and the local outcast came to known as a Shaman, or Medicine Man. This person was believed to be able to communicate with worldly spirits - a system called Animism - to secure good fortune and health for the community.

Shamans eventually formed a very tribal priest-craft. These groups of Shamans then worked to ensure the survival of the community by praying to creator gods who often times came not from outer-space but from within the Earth. These early forms were called Pagan, Heathen and occasionally polytheistic in the sense of Native Americans.

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As these impermanent settlements found stable living grounds they formed city-states and eventually cities. This brought the rise of the first great civilizations: Egypt, Mesopotamia, Greece and the like. Religion in these cultures also evolved.

In Egypt the polytheistic gods first started as very animal-based figures. The Jackal, the Hawk, etc. Earth-bound. Then as Pharaohs warred and Egypt was united a thirst for an afterlife became reality. This brought a new generation of Gods. Some of these were related to the stars - but only as a means for constructing tombs and pyramids to house the bodies of the dead. Finally, these deities in their final evolutions came to represent luminary spheres like the sun and moon.

Mesopotamian belief is a bit different. They have 3 races of gods over many, many generations. The Igigi are sky-dwelling gods who live in the clouds. The Annunaki are Earth dwelling monster-gods who live in the woods, ground, seas and such. The Nephelim are demonic and cthonic deities who live under the world.

The mythology of Mesopotamia carries intense outer space overtones, but none of these space deities are benign towards the human race. Quite the opposite. The space-dwelling Igigi actually wish mankind to be destroyed. It is the Annunaki who spare them. Oannes, a sea god actually teaches all of Mesopotamia culture, farming, architecture and the like before going to try and convince the Igigi to spare us.

Unfortunately, Mesopotamia did not believe in any type of "afterlife" so there was no way, in their eyes, for us to meet our sky fathers even if they did exist.

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Onto the belief that all life originated in outer space. This belief is called panspermia, and to a lesser extent exogensis. However, it states nowhere that such extraterrestrial life need be alien in nature. Meaning that the development of these "seeds" of life in outer-space could have evolved through natural cosmological principles and simply crash-landed on Earth with one of the various meteorites that collided with our planet.

If you'd like to believe an alien race germinated these seeds and sent them here, that's OK. If you'd like to claim this as the truth, you need to also present your evidence to not only me, but all of the scientific community. Panspermia is not a rejected scientific theory, but it is by no means accepted. Less excepted when alien life as the creator of these seeds is proposed.

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Concerning my pursuit for some kind of truth, in a sea of lies and misinformation: who's to say something ShadowNinja, Unity 99 or others on here says isn't true? Maybe they do have some kind of insight into a small portion of reality. In that hope I continually encourage them to prove their claims in an attempt to extract any truth, however small, from such.

So, my conclusion? This:

Words have meanings. Study of them will reveal those meanings. Many names for God simply refers to honorific titles he was given by the Jews (Father, Lord, Protector, Wrath/fire, etc).

Could the "we" in Genesis mean that Abraham and his monotheism actually had multiple divine beings? Yes. Abraham came from the Mesopotamian city-state of Ur. He was a polytheist trying to redefine the religion.

Could all life be from outer-space? Panspermia suggests so, exogensis as well. I think it's possible. Making the claim "life comes from space" means "aliens made us" is a non sequitur. It does not follow without more substantiating evidence.

I apologize for the long post, but I wanted to respond to all your inquiries.

~ Wandering Scribe



posted on Mar, 20 2010 @ 12:06 AM
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I carry a message that should be heard.

"I see more in you then most do, I see faith and love of my Mother and Father. In each and every single one of you, for you are all the light and love of the creator. Even though you fight for greed and power I still see good in you for I give you all my love."



posted on Mar, 20 2010 @ 07:10 AM
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I must say i quite like your take on the evolution of paganism. It's a subject i'm not too familiar with so i don't know if that is your take or a general understanding of people who are familiar with the subject.
So are you saying paganism evolved from this?
Cave Bears


Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
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Mesopotamian belief is a bit different. They have 3 races of gods over many, many generations. The Igigi are sky-dwelling gods who live in the clouds. The Annunaki are Earth dwelling monster-gods who live in the woods, ground, seas and such. The Nephelim are demonic and cthonic deities who live under the world.


Does this mean you actually accept the idea of Ets then? I mean, the Igigi came from the skies and the clouds, but we understand that nothing could actually live "on" the clouds don't we? Therefore we must accept that they were from beyond the clouds or perhaps even in something else at cloud level.
This also refers to the theory - and thats all i see it as - of Hollow Earth. The idea that something lived/lives in the Earth and under our very feet.

And the fact that you state there are conflicts between all three of these "races" can also help me. Many people talk of a war between races for us - humans. Many races want us and want our abilities. We can be slaves, we can be food and we can be tools - and this isn't just physically either. Does this idea that the Igigi want us dead and the Annunaki defending us and helping us not help support the idea that we are just slaves in a much bigger picture?


Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
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Concerning my pursuit for some kind of truth, in a sea of lies and misinformation: who's to say something ShadowNinja, Unity 99 or others on here says isn't true? Maybe they do have some kind of insight into a small portion of reality. In that hope I continually encourage them to prove their claims in an attempt to extract any truth, however small, from such.


Yes exactly. That's what i admire about you. Your want to search for the needle in the hay stack, your want to search for the truth no matter how little.

Thankyou for the post.

Namaste.



posted on Mar, 20 2010 @ 04:39 PM
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Well, paganism on the whole evolved through many, many more stages than just those I described. Bear cults, nomadic bands, tribes, small communities, Animists, Shamans, pagans and idolaters, polytheism, henotheism, Hinduism, Taoism, Buddhism, and many many more. My anthropology teacher who's life is spent around ancient cultures (his PHD is in anthropology) spent a good portion of a semester class on cultural anthropology talking about pagans, idol worship, polytheism and the evolution of monotheism from these origins. So, whether or not the specific ancient bear you linked via wiki is the kind that the neanderthals worshiped, I'd have to double-check. But yes, paganism in all it's various forms, did develop out of primitive animal worship - mostly of the bear.

Concerning extra-terrestrial life forms existing, I've always believed that the Universe is populated with life forms of a certain caliber. What I don't so easily believe is that these beings could conquer inter-stellar space flight - why would they come here to probe us, lead us on, and then inevitably discard us? A race that has conquered such a feat as space travel and can do so multiple times in a single lifespan HAS to be of a higher education than us. This would mean their moral and logical barriers are different than ours.

Primitive animal probing, or human probing, would not be the method. Our own scientists don't go into tribal African villages and probe them. Nor do they try to unlock some secret intelligence in them. Instead we observe them, write about them, make ourselves known to them and generally try to form solid bonds of communication with them. These ET's must not be as developed as us if they feel the need to hide, conduct experiments, lie to the masses and the like. Again, just my opinion, but human evolution tends to favor my opinion.

Hollow Earth theory fell away when space travel and photography proved to us that the Earth has no hole. And sadly, I don't consider the Igigi, or any other space-dwelling race to be "alien" so much as the ancients viewed the world in layers. Earth being current life, the Underworld being the place of judgment after death, and the "sky" or "space" being a hypothetical (maybe even metaphysical) place where the spirit or soul went to live after being judged. I've done research in this area and found similarities in belief patterns to support this, but this is not the place since it has nothing to do with ShadowNinja's topic. If you're interested, U2U me about it.

Whether or not these gods chose to interact with us on a day-to-day basis is something I usually prefer not to comment on. Have I had "supernatural" or "paranormal" experiences? Yes. Do I think that because I have I understand everything? Not by a long shot. I understand that even though I have experienced something, and it was real enough to me, that no single being (alien, god, spirit, pixie, leprechaun, ghost, devil, demon, angel or otherwise) can know everything because there is too much happening out there for a single force to be behind it all.

I'd like to think our Universe, spiritually and physically, developed in an evolutionary style. As something became 'necessary' it was born. Gods, aliens, planets, and everything between included in there. We're all just infants compared to the grand existence of everything. To claim we aren't, makes us liars and thieves.

~ Wandering Scribe



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I do understand your point. And my honest answer to you is i have no freaking idea. I don't know why were we made and manipulated. For slavery? I guess that's a good idea, but i don't understand how if there are good and bad ETs they haven't stepped in and stopped this. I don't know - I've just gotta accept that i don't know and put my faith in the fact that we are changing the world now and taking back the freedom that belongs to us.

Thanks for this chat, i seem to have gained a little insight into your beliefs now, and a little more understanding of you. I guess its only fair to offer you the same options, so if there is anything biting away at you that you feel the need to ask, go ahead.

Namaste.



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