911 Poll

Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
Operation Northwoods...such a great plan it got people fired and was never used.

Who was fired as a result of Northwoods being proposed?

No, they most certainly have NOT told the truth at pretty much every stage of the attack.

That some of the laws of physics were averted that day stands true as testament that the power of the media to tell such monumental lies that they are beyond examination to the average Joe.

But that's just it, that is the silver lining that needs to be taken from this.

I will sound sceptical but there is just no way that we will ever get to the bottom of this. It was CIA, it was the Bush cabal, it was the Zionists, all of the above etc...

Point is, it's our generations JFK Assassination... The culprits will never stand trial.

The silver lining we must let shine the way for the dark times ahead is the fact that it has produced an unprecedented level of cynicism pointed towards the corporate media that is almost as responsible for the destruction of truth as thermite was in bringing the buildings down... If this withdrawal of global trust in the propaganda machine is met with the emergence of a new grassroots truth network of unbiased news disseminated via the internet, then, maybe, just maybe we can pick the lock off these shackles...

I'm a Revolutionary with a Silent "R"

Originally posted by bsbray11

Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
Operation Northwoods...such a great plan it got people fired and was never used.

Who was fired as a result of Northwoods being proposed?

I don't know about fired but Lyman Lemnitzer was removed as chairman of the joint chiefs of staff by JFK.

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Put me in for NO the government is not telling the truth or anything close to it.

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It would be a good idea to edit the results into the OP

Originally posted by ohhwataloser
I don't know about fired but Lyman Lemnitzer was removed as chairman of the joint chiefs of staff by JFK.

Correct, Lemnitzer was never fired. He was denied another term as JCS Chairman and appointed Commander of U.S. Forces in Europe and then Supreme Allied Commander of NATO in January 1963.

But as ABC News reported in 2001:


web.archive.org...://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/jointchiefs_010501.html

How long will we have to wait for documents that implicate the neocons' orchestrating 9/11?

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To further beat the dead horse,the mention was in plural,as in,"people were fired."
Who else,pray tell,eh?
Chirp chirp chirp chirp
Oh yeah,almost forgot,what's the tally?We ain't using those electronic vote machines are we?We might then all be surprised,it may again declare results exactly opposite the expected~

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Consider the source:

Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
Operation Northwoods...such a great plan it got people fired and was never used.

Poor Swampy. It's gotta hurt having spent thousands and thousands of hours lying and trying to mislead people just to discover that only 5% believe in the official fairy tale!

Maybe the Swampster should be the one who gets fired.

Carrying on from pg 23 vote count.

NO 368. The government lied about 911.

YES 18. The government told the truth.

I will continue on the vote count as more come in. For all of you who have precipitated, I just want to say, thanks.


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So start filing your FOIA's to get the names of the JCS planning staff that were transferred or "retired" when Lemon got "transferred". Shouldn't be too hard for the crackerjack truthers on here.

"We ain't using those electronic vote machines are we?"

That's correct - no Diebold machines here to fraudulently benefit their corrupt and slimy arses.

You know, if you had a poll asking if the earth was round or flat, you would probably get more than a pathetic 5% saying it was flat.

Before you start backslapping yourselves too hard you should probably acknowledge that thinking that the government might not have told the whole truth about 9/11 is not remotely synonymous with thinking they were behind it. And congrats on your methodology - you've carried out the poll on a website stuffed with people who already agree with you. You may as well go to the NRA convention and ask how many people want to ban guns.

Anyway, almost nobody can really believe that the US government tells the truth about everything. Indeed I imagine it's almost impossible for the government to tell the truth at all, partly because it is composed of so many different interests, partly because it's so hard to know what the real truth is, and partly because politicians are naturally dishonest weasels.

So how about a different question.

"Shouldn't be too hard for the crackerjack truthers on here."

Crackerjack - by golly, that's it! All this time I was trying to figure out where the Official Story came from. The inside of a Crackerjack's box, that's where it came from!

Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
Operation Northwoods...such a great plan it got people fired and was never used.

Since Swampfox hasn't bothered to answer.

NO ONE was fired over Northwoods.

One of the Joint Chiefs was transferred to head of NATO forces or something along those lines, 6 months AFTER Northwoods was proposed, which is probably what Swampy was mistakenly thinking of. No worries, though. He has made bigger mistakes, like believing 9/11 was accomplished by Muslim terrorists.

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And with the exception of David Jeremiah (who was never the CJCS, only "acting" CJCS), Leminitzer is the ONLY Chairman to be removed prior to his retirement from the Armed Forces. Going from the JCS to NATO is a demotion.

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Notice how Swampy baby glosses right over Bamford's revelations?

How did the war with Cuba go? I seem not to have read about it.

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Now, line that up with "Operation Northwoods" and get back to us with anything you discover about the differences in the two.

Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
How did the war with Cuba go? I seem not to have read about it.

Bay of Pigs was a disaster, thanks to the CIA. And the phony Gulf of Tonkin ruse worked splendidly, with LBJ being quoted in NSA archives as saying, "those Navy boys were shooting at a bunch of flying fish!"

You probably never read about it because you're too busy authoring disgraceful threads about 9/11. After your pathetic attempt at mocking the 9/11 attacks, you should be ignored by everyone.

Hey Swampy, you seem to have quickly backpedaled from your earlier lies about "people getting fired" because of Operation Northwoods.

No prob though -- we're used to it.

Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
How did the war with Cuba go? I seem not to have read about it.

What about the war with Vietnam? Gulf of Tonkin. The NSA recently declassified records PROVING nothing really happened there.


What about the war with Spain? It took the Navy 3 or 4 investigations, and until the 1970s (the better part of a century later) before they finally PROVED that the USS Maine was destroyed from an internal explosion, NOT an external explosion. The investigations before that, and the news media, all sensationalized Spain's role and claimed Spain did it, just so we went to war with them. War is big money little guy. There are people that CAN do this stuff, and they DO, because they profit enormously off of war. And when you're in the business of killing thousands of people, what do you care if you LIE to millions more? Especially when they are too stupid to figure it out or do anything about it, think of how easy it would be for a megalomaniac to justify it to himself. You really are like a bunch of cattle.


The history of false flags and intentionally lying to go to war runs deep for this country and 9/11 is what you get when for 100 years we as a population allow it to happen and do NOTHING about it. It gets WORSE, not better, and now, as J Edgar Hoover himself used to say, you are confronted with a conspiracy so monstrous, you would rather choose to believe it does not even exist.

Or as Hitler said, you gullible people will buy all the big lies, though you may not be afraid of challenging the small ones. He committed his own false flags to go to war with Poland, for example. It's also believed they burned down their own Reichstag, their parliament building.

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