Just when you thought he had done his worst, Obama has a little surprise for you.

Looking at my 1040 right now and this is nowhere to be found. i really do not think the majority of gun owners would even comply with this anyway. rest as ease....this is false info.

1040 for 2009
1040EZ for 2009
1040A for 2009

Unless the powers in DC represent a very liberal population, putting this on the 1040 is the same has retiring from politics. Or more accurately, being fired. Depending on how you want to look at it.

Besides, if your gun is already registered, they already know.

As far as the 2010 version of the 1040s goes, I don't think those will be available for downloading until much later in the year.

But we have this debate every year and every year, it's not on the 1040. If this ever does go through, Fox will cover it. I guarantee it! lol

I don't hold any fault on the OP though. There is so much going on right now, we almost need to form teams and have meetings to keep up with it all.

Peace until war everybody.
(How do you like THAT for optimism?)

I say: great law..

Look at the Netherlands, very low crime rates on death by gun shot... why? because we have exactly the same law.

luckily this isn't legal. the constitution says I have the right to bare arms. So i'm gonna keep my unregistered shotgun unregistered since this law isn't a real one.

Originally posted by Seiko
reply to post by whoshotJR

 

I'm finding the same thing you are?

Snopes is claiming this as only partly true because it is a proposed bill. I also do not see a connection to obama? It's listed as the blair holt bill, it's been around since 2007, with little to no progress.

That's a mere technicality. For the people that hate him, Obama is Satan incarnate and every ridiculous rumor or outlandish accusation is swallowed whole like so much cheap beer by a bunch of Billy-Bobs breaking wind and laughing at insects flying into their Wal-Mart brand bug zapper.

This is not true. I am not trying to give free publicity to any group, but I also see that many times without the source of the information, a poster gets heckeled mercilessly!

If you fell prey to "SB-2099" e-mail hoax, you need to join a real gun rights group you trust

There are a great number of indicators in this e-mail that prove the sender is not to be trusted.

"This bill will become public knowledge 30 days after it is voted into law." Baloney. I don't trust the scumbuckets in Washington, D.C. either.

But a bill can't become law without "public knowledge" or without a vote. If this were possible, is there any doubt the liberals would use it to immediately enact their gun control fantasies? The only thing stopping them is...well, frankly, you.

Another thing that tells you this isn't accurate is that the US Senate doesn't list them as "SB 2099" or "SB-2099". It would be "S. 2099".

The third glaring indication that it isn't real is that when you do a search of "S. 2099" or even "2099" from the US Senate website, it returns nothing.

I'm a former US Senate employee (Not me, the original poster. a Mr Dudley Brown. Director of this pro gun group ) Sen. Bill Armstrong's staff, and still have a lot of contacts on the Hill. So I've got a good handle on federal legislation -- we track federal legislation here:

www.nationalgunrights.org...

The one thing they did get right is that 2099 was, at one time, a bill in the U.S. Senate... in 2000. And yes, it was a gun control disaster.

It didn't get anywhere, but 9 years later its not still alive.

However, this illustrates why we exist: There's a lot of misinformation out there -- especially on the internet -- and gun owners need someone they trust take the time to decipher it. They want to know what's happening without being scammed, so they become members of groups they trust.

If you are sent this e-mail, forward our above reply, with a note from you to the sender and all the recipients:

"I asked a gun lobbyist I trust about the legislation you referenced, "SB-2099". And, as you can see from this 15-year veteran of the wars to save our freedoms, the referenced legislation isn't as advertised.

There are plenty of real threats to our right to keep and bear arms.

Let's put our energy into fighting them, not ghosts.

That's why I'm a member of Rocky Mountain Gun Owners: I trust them to know what's happening and alert me when my help is needed.

If you live in Colorado, you need to be a member. There is no other group in Colorado who truly defends our rights without compromise.

Click here to join RMGO
rmgo.ejoinme.org...

Click here if you'd like to receive more information in the mail
www.rmgo.org...

Click here to read more about RMGO
www.rmgo.org...

If you don't live in Colorado, you can always join the National Association for Gun Rights, which is led by the same staff.

Click here to join NAGR
gunrights.ejoinme.org...

Added the name of the original poster.

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Uh, why not just go to www.irs.gov and check the 1040 form yourself? There is nothing there about guns at all... so this thread is a HOAX:

IRS 1040 Form for 2009

Found this from back in June. They say basiclly BS, but with BO you never know. Checked the IRS couldn't find anything. (shrug). If I find anything more recent I'll pop it in. www.factcheck.org...


Had another though. If this is true, Shouldn't we beable to carry across state lines now since the Feds will have a record of our weapons? Shouldn't this be like a full carry permit now? Yeah, I know, dreaming.

Folks, this has only been through a House Committee clear back in Jan-Feb, 2009 and has laid dormant since. In fact I recall discussing it back then. It got no further because this subject crosses Party lines and would never pass. Too many Democrats are opposed to it.

Considering the difficulty they are having with the Health Care, I doubt this would even be high on their list of priorities. It has little hope of passing and until it does its an academic discussion.

Source

Status:

Occurred: Introduced Jan 6, 2009
Occurred: Referred to Committee View Committee Assignments
Not Yet Occurred: Reported by Committee ...
Not Yet Occurred: House Vote ...
Not Yet Occurred: Senate Vote ...
Not Yet Occurred: Signed by President ...
This bill is in the first step in the legislative process. Introduced bills and resolutions first go to committees that deliberate, investigate, and revise them before they go to general debate. The majority of bills and resolutions never make it out of committee. [Last Updated: Jan 5, 2010 7:07PM]

Last Action:

Feb 9, 2009: Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security.

This is a non-story.

Please stop posting threads intended to scare the users here into believing something that isn't true. Please reference the senate.gov site for the real story. Thanks for reading.. please drive through.

www.senate.gov...

reply to post by Chance321


This has yet to pass. You won't find anything other than it has been shelved for nearly a year now. There is nothing on the IRS forms. It is just a proposed Bill and nothing more.

I wish I could DE-STAR people on here.

Probably the same kind of person that posts the virus hoaxes / chain letters in forums and testifying that it is true and that we should ALL be scared.

You're only riling up the uninformed and maybe that's what you want, but the smart people will put you on ignore because there are few things worse than someone crying wolf...

Still worth a discussion and some awareness though, is it not? Whether it's likely or not, the fact remains that it is something that there's an attempt to pass.

Unless we just want to leave everything in the hands of the Congress, which we're oh so very sure has our best interests at heart.

Nothing to see here. All is well.

(I'm not defending dragging Obama's name into this specific discussion, although there's plenty to be wary of when it comes to him, or any Washingtonian. Vigilance, people. We need increased public vigilance).

These trigger happy Americans really worry me. All this forefathers nonsense and protecting the family when it's most likely that the gun you own will either be used against them or just put them in prison when they lose their temper.

The sooner the US gets stricter on gun ownership or bans it altogether the better for everyone.

Mods need to do there job and remove this thread. Its a hoax,plain and simple. People getting there panties in a wad over a non issue.
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reply to post by Blaine91555

than it has been shelved for nearly a year Try nine years Try googling H.R.45 / S.B.2009
Big star for grahag


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Much as I respect the need for the Second Amendment and the ability to defend ourselves from all enemies foreign and domestic there is a big difference between regulate guns and infringing on the right to have one. This legislation doesn't look like it will make it illegal to have one, just a bit harder to get the gun and hold onto it.

I think they are going a bit overboard, don't get me wrong but people who want to exercise their right will comply anyway... and what did you expect? With how angry this nation is becoming more and more legislation like this is gonna come through, cause Congress and TPTB know they're the first targets of violence if this country tips into chaos.

This was done in Canada, although here the politicians didn't try to sneak it through; they did ram it down our throats, but at least we knew it was happening. The Canadian government spent almost a billion dollars (that they admit to) on a program that was sold to us with a MAXIMUM price tag of 100 million dollars.

Although the provision/requirement to have guns properly stored is inarguably a good idea to protect kids, (in Canada it MUST be an actual gun cabinet with the guns trigger-locked) the rest is garbage.

Here we have had police groups represented in some cases by the chiefs of police forces fight against this.

Why?

This does nothing to stop crime or limit gun access; CRIMINALS DO NOT REGISTER THIER WEAPONS.

The very week that this became law in Canada a dump truck full of assualt weapons and handguns was seized in Toronto. Not one of the weapons was registered and in most cases the guns were illegal in this country to begin with. To his credit, the chief of police in Toronto held a press conference to spell it out for people that the entire plan was a political band-aid, one that obviously was completely ineffective. It is a way to appease some of the squeaky wheels with a token gesture that something is being done. Unfortunatly, that 'something' only penalizes the people who AREN'T breaking the laws in the first place.

I wonder what the fine print is in the US? in Canada it included...

--No serial number and the gun is destroyed, good bye antiques
--Divorced? Your ex can be interviewed prior to you being issued a permit.
--Two licenses, one to own a gun the other to buy ammo.
--Special permit required to load your own shells in order to buy the gunpowder.

and finally...

Police in Canada check the registry before answering a call to a home. When the police arrive at the door they automatically have the right to search the home, without a warrent, to ensure all weapons are properly stored and acounted for.

Regardless of why they were called.

Although mass shootings are (thankfully) rare in Canada, the last couple involved unregistered weapons illegal in this country even before the registry was started. This proves yet again that if someone is determined enough they will find a way, regardless of any law.

Guns don't kill unless someone aims and pulls the trigger. Just having a gun registry does nothing; EDUCATION and RESPONSIBLE ownership must be part of the plan otherwise it's just PR and a tax grab.

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If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear

there is nothing wrong with this bill it is responsible thing to do theres more important thing to be worrying about

The reason goverment officials world wide are not doing there jobs reading proposals and voteing against them as the publics wants is clear. Go watch jesse venturas 2012 availible on youtube.
I just watched it jesse reckons they are given a place in the safe underground bunkers being built across the world for 2012.
if they then do as they are told they gain a golden ticket.
u.s. politicians get a suite under denver airport.
Rich americans are buying missile silos with swimming pools for 2012
he then goes on about if people new about it 2012 and the end we will have 3 million citizens from colorado going to denver and trying to gain entry to tunnels, then screen flashes with white tone i think it means or the show is sayin they will nuke em the people tryin to gain entry if they carnt shoot em. This is why they need gun control. when the sun flares





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