Aliens make Crop Circles, Best Evidence Ever - Cosmic Wakening

reply to post by Arbitrageur


"I take his claims of paranormal phenomena around the circles with a grain of salt, he's trying to promote they mystery of the circles while admitting they are manmade."

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It must be nice affording yourself the luxury of picking and choosing what you want to pay attention to when debunking something.

And I'm still not convinced they are all man-made.
What would be really nice is a good video. Showing step by step everything from the planning of a circle, to the construction, to the finished product.

Then, that would be ONE DOWN.
From there we could look at probabilities of not being caught, estimation of man-power involved in this conspiracy, etc.

reply to post by Arbitrageur


The caption reads "people in cropcircle, circle-maker's photo", so odds are it is indeed an example of a manmade one.
...It's just one though, it's hard to sort through them or know what's what when you google "crop circle".

I'd really like to see an example of a cropcircle researcher investigating one that is manmade. I'd be interested of there were prints, if the wheat was bent in a different way, electrical charge, and things like that.
As far as I know such a situation isn't documented.

It is a shame that so many of the members who comment on this video have done little to no research regarding the topic. Crop circles are generally found as fractals. Fractal images that are close to impossible to reproduce at such precision. Given the fact all biological entities are based on fractals... planets, animals, humans etc, I find it intriguing that the images found are fractals to say the least. If you don't know what fractals are: www.google.com search it yourself it is base knowledge. Researchers have found electrical pulses and frequencies exerting from the area of the crop circles. Researchers have also found perfect iron spheres (At a molecular level) in dirt samples collected inside the crop circles. The electrical pulses and frequencies discovered have been found to increase the mean/average growth of the seeds from the plants by 0.25%, also documented. And the part that made me wonder was the fact that we are starting to use reverse-engineered alien technology to increase the growth of crops! (The electrical pulses are currently being replicated) Very interesting to say the least...

Originally posted by STFUPPERCUTTER
dont be silly, im sure life forms from other galaxies and dimensions woudl travel here to spray graffiti in fields instead of trying to actaully contact humans,
makes perfect sense to me.

lmao!

heyo - A simple search on ATS would bring up the thread you are looking for.

Originally posted by JayinAR
Well, I'll just say that if this IS in fact all a man-made event, they will eventually be found out.
Right about the time a farmer catches the jerkoffs in their field with his weapon of choice at the ready.

And since this hasn't happened yet, and we don't have any video of these surveyor, chemist, mathematicians in the fields actually doing any of these glyphs, I still consider it a mystery.

A very puzzling one at that.

oh please, majority of the ppl of the world doesnt know about the crop ciricles, that goes to tel you something...THE GOVERNMENT DOESNT WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE ALIENS ARE INDEED CROPPING THEM CIRCLES

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I'm sorry, you lost me.
Apologies.

Originally posted by heyo
reply to post by Arbitrageur

 

The caption reads "people in cropcircle, circle-maker's photo", so odds are it is indeed an example of a manmade one.
...It's just one though, it's hard to sort through them or know what's what when you google "crop circle".

I'd really like to see an example of a cropcircle researcher investigating one that is manmade. I'd be interested of there were prints, if the wheat was bent in a different way, electrical charge, and things like that.
As far as I know such a situation isn't documented.

These two researchers don't give details, but they do document around 4min 40sec in this video that they have investigated crop circles and deemed them "genuine" based on whatever criteria, only to later find out they were manmade.



But they also think fairy rings are related to crop circles and as far as I know they are caused by something like a fungus.

en.wikipedia.org...

So I'm not particularly impressed with them nor with any crop circle researchers that I've run across, for that matter.

Originally posted by hermantinkly

Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by hermantinkly
Now recall how last year when the British government released UFO files, one of the reports was about how a woman walking her dog in Wiltshire encountered a "man with a flight suit" who confessed that he was from another planet similar to earth, and that "his race was responsible for creating crop circles."

Assuming for a moment she's not hoaxing or making up the story, the guy she met sounds awfully human right down to the earthly accent:

She described the man as 5'9" fair hair with a Scandinavian type accent and dressed in a light brown garment....

So maybe the real prankster was the guy in the brown suit and she was just a victim. I would have thought you needed to do more than just put on brown clothes and have a Scandinavian accent to get people to believe you're an alien, but I guess for the more gullible among us, probably not.


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You know what the funny thing is about that is? In July of this year, there was a pretty significant story that made rounds around the internet about a police officer who saw "three tall beings" inside a crop circle one night who ran out at "incredible speeds." You must've heard about it, if not, read this: www.telegraph.co.uk...

So why is this important and how is it relevant to the incident about the woman dog-walker encountering an alien? Well, both encounters happened in Wiltshire; both cases involved "aliens" with blonde-hair; both cases invovled "aliens" wearing one-piece suits; both cases had crop circles associated with them; and in both cases, there was a strange buzzing or electrostatic crackling noise heard by each of the witnesses. Difference is that one case got reported in 1989 to the Royal Airforce by a regular woman, and the other this year by a police officer with a reputation and job to lose.

This is very, very compelling corroborative evidence. The nordic/scandinavian/Pleiadian extraterrestrials do exist, as do other famous types involved in this sphere of reality (Reptilians, Greys, etc.). Those that have been researching will discover this easily.



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Wow, now thats creepy

Im sure someone has said this but just to be sure,( like to make my own opinion before I read everybody else's)

How about that HARRP project...could it be the villian behind these formations?

I know some are made by people on the ground but the others?

reply to post by CosmicWakening

I am interested in the most important crop circle ever. And the reference We are the containers. I think human souls fill the containers but what do I know?

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Thanks for that. So board marks are the only things that give it away, apparently. Which of course means we have to believe that all crop circles deemed "genuine" contain no board marks. Which of course is something a person can't know unless they're there.
.....still not convinced either way.

He's not admitting anything, what he is doing is trying to make you think they are all man-made, and he is doing it too, from reading this thread. I'm certain he was paid good for taking a fall for TPTB. You guys say prove it is ET making them? Well, prove to me man is making them.

Here is a really compelling documentary on crop circles.

www.youtube.com...

Until a couple weeks ago I hadn't looked into this topic at all, but this documentary has got me interested. Among a few of the facts about "genuine" crop circles that I took from the film are:

These things appear worldwide.

They generally appear overnight.

There is no evidence of anyone having been in the field.

They display extreme precision and demonstrate an astonishing variety of highly complex geometric ideas.

Scientific studies performed on samples of the plant and soil material indicate the area of the field in which the formation appears has been exposed to some kind of microwave-type radiation. (I learned elsewhere that this fact has been independently confirmed and published in the peer-reviewed literature. It is now generally accepted among scientists who study plants, whatever those guys are called.)

The plants within the formations have undergone changes at the cellular level that are consistent in formations found across the globe.

Surface soil within the formations displays characteristics that are typically found only in deep sedimentary rock that has been subjected to extremely high pressure for thousands of years.

Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by Arbitrageur

 

"I take his claims of paranormal phenomena around the circles with a grain of salt, he's trying to promote they mystery of the circles while admitting they are manmade."

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It must be nice affording yourself the luxury of picking and choosing what you want to pay attention to when debunking something.

And I'm still not convinced they are all man-made.
What would be really nice is a good video. Showing step by step everything from the planning of a circle, to the construction, to the finished product.

I pay attention to all of what is said. It's simply that some stuff passes through the built-in internal BS detector while other stuff doesn't pass the BS test. The way i see it, he's just being somewhat colorful in his descriptions not unlike the fisherman who's 8" catch was 10" when he first told someone and it was over a foot long when he retold the story later that day. Embellishment is a natural human attribute of storytelling. But I believe the fisherman caught the fish just as I believe Williams makes crop circles.

For example this circlemaker sees something anomalous and shows a picture of it he's not a liar, I'm sure he does think it's anomalous, it just doesn't look that way to me, it's just an oddly shaped cloud.

And if you search youtube I think you'll find the videos you are looking for, showing how crop circles are made:

Here's one example:


Here's a long documentary about circlemaking in 18 parts, 3 hours long:

The horrific grammar in the snippet is all I needed to see. I know it's bad to pre-judge, but wow.

2 lines: Move along folks, nothing to see here.

We are being divided into two kinds of people.

Those that are open to the spiritual change and are of service to others.

Those that are not open to spiritual change and are of service to self.

This is the time for humankinds big evolutionary leap. Spirit is separating the wheat from the chaff. This is why so many bad things are happening to us, not only worldwide but on a personal level. you have to have a lot of faith in spirit to make it through these times and still believe there is good out there.

The butterfly-human is wonderful. During my years of spiritual awakening I was at a county fair one day and I thought to myself right over int hat corner ( a guy was selling a bunch of crap) is the ring I have been looking for. I was across from this guy running a booth for my wife, the next day the guy selling the crap was gone and this guy that was selling jewelery from an estate sale had taken his place.

He had the most unusual ring...it was an old sterling ring that is a human-butterfly.

This represents humnkinds change. We shall metamorphosis into this beautiful butterfly....not all of us are ready. If you have had a spiritual awakening and are in service to others you will be ready.

All the others...welcome to the same ole Monday night football.

Originally posted by LoneGunMan
We are being divided into two kinds of people.

Those that are open to the spiritual change and are of service to others.

Those that are not open to spiritual change and are of service to self.

This is the time for humankinds big evolutionary leap. Spirit is separating the wheat from the chaff. This is why so many bad things are happening to us, not only worldwide but on a personal level. you have to have a lot of faith in spirit to make it through these times and still believe there is good out there.

The butterfly-human is wonderful. During my years of spiritual awakening I was at a county fair one day and I thought to myself right over int hat corner ( a guy was selling a bunch of crap) is the ring I have been looking for. I was across from this guy running a booth for my wife, the next day the guy selling the crap was gone and this guy that was selling jewelery from an estate sale had taken his place.

He had the most unusual ring...it was an old sterling ring that is a human-butterfly.

This represents humnkinds change. We shall metamorphosis into this beautiful butterfly....not all of us are ready. If you have had a spiritual awakening and are in service to others you will be ready.

All the others...welcome to the same ole Monday night football.

Wow, I agree completely. My spiritual awakening process happened after my sightings last year in Birmingham, which were followed by several out-of-body experiences. It has all been very humbling. The human-butterfly crop circle does seem to represent the transformation and metamorphosis of consciousness in the times we live.

i think the op knows that man can make crop circles,the video had the Firefox crop circle in it, that took 2 days to make,what i think the op means,is the proper crop circles,the ones that appear in minutes,aren't just flattened crop that's bent over as though from weight,but are bent because of heat supplied to the cells on one side,the chaffs are actually woven in different directions to form textures on the ground in the circles giving 3d effect,em readings are higher in unexplained crop circles,yeah, man can make a pattern in the field, but i don't think they can make a proper crop circle, if you know what a proper crop circle is,(one with all the other anomalous findings), in the time frame that the others have been formed.

I previously posted this in another crop circle thread before, and I will repeat it here because it is relevant. I think we have to prove that people are not responsible before seeking more exotic explainations.

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Before involving extraterrestials in these crop circle phenomena, consider that earth-bound technology is perhaps advanced enough to be responsible. It is very possible that some very smart biotech and electronic engineers have figured out how to cause rapid gravitropism in certain plants that have node structures in their stalks which are right above the ground.

The evidence of this mechanism of bending these plants is massive, especially in the analysis done by Freddy Silva from SygnalasisLaboratories, BLT Research in his book "Secrets in the Fields". (Excerps from this work can be found at:
www.cropcirclesecrets.org...)

This technology would have been developed in the US Military, and here is why:
Starting in the early 60's and up to the present time, Millions of dollars were spent on developing methods of defoliating plants and flattening tall grass fields to secure large areas and deny enemy troops for using such fields as cover. Many casualties were incurred because of ambush and the ability to move large troops through these fields un-noticed.

I hold that a method of flattening these large grass fields was developed that was most likely a directed energy emmiter that used a mircrowave or combination microwave/laser technology that was able to rapidly cause certain types of stalky plants to bend at this special node at the base of their stems. At first, it was crude, and could only do circular areas, but as technology improved, and the use of computers that can generate raster and vector graphics, could basically direct this emmitter like we can today in laser shows, presenting incredible graphics in planetariums and in low cloud patterns, we wind up with a real smoking gun that needs to be investigated.

Like all technology that starts in the military, it makes it way into the public sector because the engineers working on it leave and start developing variations on the same theme. I believe this is the basis for what we see. It makes sense in the gradual complexity and capability over time as the technology is further perfected. I believe it is being done from the air, in small craft, perhaps drones, that fly without lights and do not have to be present in the area for very long.

So - Thats my take. I think that persuing this line of reasoning will produce the solution that everyone wants. I am not saying that I do not believe that there are intellegent extraterrestrial that have perhaps visited this planet , or are doing so now. The question is, if this is so, why would they not use some of the many more effective means of communication if they really wanted to talk to us?

Charlyv