Jury finds stripper's rights were violated

breach of constitutional rights because they were forced to " stand, kneel or lie down" ???

come on now, how is that innapropriate, their the ones dressing like WHHHHEERRROOOORE'S.

And cops should know, The only things strippers might hide are ping pong balls.

reply to post by heyo


Says who? Oh good god, You can be a Lady and still be cool at the same time, some of the male members in here have a sexist mind to say the least.

Those whom have criticised the Strippers, how many times have you been to a Strippers Club??????

Enough of using derogatory remarks they are Women after all. Are you all annoyed, cause they won?


[edit on 9-12-2009 by Laurauk]

reply to post by MessOnTheFED!


Yeah and what happened to the Guy who was paying her, oh let me guess, the Owner bought him a drink or two, pathetic.

Originally posted by IntastellaBurst


breach of constitutional rights because they were forced to " stand, kneel or lie down" ???

come on now, how is that innapropriate, their the ones dressing like WHHHHEERRROOOORE'S.

And cops should know, The only things strippers might hide are ping pong balls.

So there's no difference between strippers and prostitutes? And being in the sex trade abrogates their rights as women, let alone as citizens?

Bunch of guys sitting around paying women to give them a show, and it's the women who are of dubious morals?

It's a new millennium there, Ally Oop...time to catch up.

reply to post by IntastellaBurst


Come on. Really?

You honestly feel that just because they are strippers that they have any less right?

What if you were in a club and the cops stripped searched you while serving a warrant for business records?

It's strange that people forget that people are PEOPLE, just based on their profession...

~Keeper

Originally posted by IntastellaBurst
breach of constitutional rights because they were forced to " stand, kneel or lie down" ???

NO.

The breach of constitutional rights occurred when one of the complainants was taken into a back room and strip searched during the execution of a search warrant for business records

[edit on 9-12-2009 by 12m8keall2c]

Originally posted by Laurauk
reply to post by MessOnTheFED!

 

Yeah and what happened to the Guy who was paying her, oh let me guess, the Owner bought him a drink or two, pathetic.

No idea and dont realy care to know. Strippers aren't "ladies" and there is nothing ladylike about them.

Prime example of a real lady...... Rosa Parks. Not Kelly Star or whatever.

As a musician and a member of what might be called saloon society, and knowing more than a few strippers, pole dancers, Lap dancers, go go girls and other entertainers; they are just as much a cross section of society as any other profession. Classifying them all as whores is just as arrogant as classifying all cops pigs.

Judge not lest ye be judged. Glass houses.....

topic....nice to see justice served for a change.



[edit on 9-12-2009 by whaaa]

Originally posted by Laurauk
reply to post by heyo

 

Says who? Oh good god, You can be a Lady and still be cool at the same time, some of the male members in here have a sexist mind to say the least.

Those whom have criticised the Strippers, how many times have you been to a Strippers Club??????

Enough of using derogatory remarks they are Women after all. Are you all annoyed, cause they won?


[edit on 9-12-2009 by Laurauk]

You Can (you are able to) not be a lady, and still be cool.
I think you misinterpreted my post.
Lady's don't strip. Some cool women do though.
That's how I meant my previous post to be interpreted.

I didn't know about the strip search, I didnt' read the whole article, just the part about them " standing, kneeling, or lying down" .... and I didnt think that was too much.

however a strip search would be way over board, ... I was just having a lil fun, and I dont think their less human than normal people, I just thought they were blowing it out of proportion because of their profession.

my statement about ping pong balls still stand however.

Originally posted by MessOnTheFED!

Originally posted by Laurauk
reply to post by MessOnTheFED!

 

Yeah and what happened to the Guy who was paying her, oh let me guess, the Owner bought him a drink or two, pathetic.

No idea and dont realy care to know. Strippers aren't "ladies" and there is nothing ladylike about them.
Prime example of a real lady...... Rosa Parks. Not Kelly Star or whatever.

You should get on well with them then, as you are no gentleman.

Are you bitter because the girls you think "do it," don't do it with you? So you have to self-righteously insult them?

I seem to remember hearing some things like:
"let he who is without sin cast the first stone," and
"before you worry about the sawdust in your neighbour's eye, pull those damn logs out of your own."

This is turning into an interesting social perspective... and dare I suggest that the old "saying" may be true: guys want their women to be "ladies" in public and "xxx" in private and never the two shall cross.

Yes/No?





[edit on 9-12-2009 by LadySkadi]

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I wonder if this is where we get the phrase "cop a feel"?

Joking aside, good going ladies.

Plenty of ladies are strippers, all of you who think dancing nude is so horrible need to recognize its 2009. Now the ones who give blow jobs in the back and such, they are whores, flat out.

There are plenty of women who strip to get through college, and do so in a respectful and fun manner. Did you ever think maybe they enjoy dancing? Some actually are part of dance schools as well, doing jazz and ballet. So what they dont have clothes on. It beats working for 8$ an hour flipping burgers.

Sadly, many women give the good ones a bad name in that industry. This is FAR from being the porn industry, and I can hardly call them ladies. Porn workers are basically engaging in prostitution. They get paid for having sex. While on the other hand, strippers are paid to dance, and only dance.

Preconceptions are a horrible thing. I bet there are many strippers who if you met somewhere other then their work, you would have no problem calling them ladies, and even more so spending time with them. But the second someone hears they are a stripper its automatically a horrible thing. Sorry, but you could not be any more wrong.

The actions of a few do are not how they all act. Even if most strippers are whores, and a few were genuine ladies, it would still be wrong to just flat out say all strippers are unladylike. Thats like not even giving somebody a chance, because somebody else who holds the same position is an a-hole.

One day, hopefully somebody doesnt judge any of you who are judging without getting to know you. If you want to judge a whole group of people, you better have met every single one of them. Otherwise your words are nothing but hateful preconceptions.

[edit on 12/9/2009 by deadline527]

Originally posted by deadline527
One day, hopefully somebody doesnt judge any of you who are judging without getting to know you. If you want to judge a whole group of people, you better have met every single one of them. Otherwise your words are nothing but hateful preconceptions.

I agree with those comments, though I find it a little ironic that you still reduce all sex trade workers to the epithet "whores". Perhaps you need to apply your sentiments across the board.

For a group that finds itself so publicly maligned...sure seems to be an essential service. And given a little more dignity in other jurisdictions.

whore
  /hɔr, hoʊr or, often, hʊər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [hawr, hohr or, often, hoor] Show IPA noun, verb, whored, whor⋅ing.
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–noun
1. a woman who engages in promiscuous sexual intercourse, usually for money; prostitute; harlot; strumpet.

- Dictionary.com

Is that not what porn actors do? Is that not what strippers who give "extra" do? So by definition, that is what they are. It may not be the best word, but it certainly is not the wrong word.

Originally posted by deadline527

whore
  /hɔr, hoʊr or, often, hʊər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [hawr, hohr or, often, hoor] Show IPA noun, verb, whored, whor⋅ing.
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–noun
1. a woman who engages in promiscuous sexual intercourse, usually for money; prostitute; harlot; strumpet.

- Dictionary.com

Is that not what porn actors do? Is that not what strippers who give "extra" do? So by definition, that is what they are. It may not be the best word, but it certainly is not the wrong word.

Given that gentility seems to be an issue here, seems to be that less judgmental terminology could be used. Is the issue that you couldn't bring a prostitute home to meet Mom? And what would Mom think about casual use of the word whore?

I mean the word # is in the dictionary, too.

Originally posted by Kailassa

Originally posted by MessOnTheFED!

Originally posted by Laurauk
reply to post by MessOnTheFED!

 

Yeah and what happened to the Guy who was paying her, oh let me guess, the Owner bought him a drink or two, pathetic.

No idea and dont realy care to know. Strippers aren't "ladies" and there is nothing ladylike about them.
Prime example of a real lady...... Rosa Parks. Not Kelly Star or whatever.

You should get on well with them then, as you are no gentleman.

Are you bitter because the girls you think "do it," don't do it with you? So you have to self-righteously insult them?

I seem to remember hearing some things like:
"let he who is without sin cast the first stone," and
"before you worry about the sawdust in your neighbour's eye, pull those damn logs out of your own."

That is absolutely the funniest thing ive heard all day. Am i bitter because they dont "do it" with me?

Apparently you forgot that we were talking about strippers here. Last time i checked they "do it" (not sex) with just about anyone with a 20 dollar bill. I dont really care if a woman chooses to strip or anything else for that matter. All i was saying is that after they have done this they are no longer "ladies" in my book. I noever said strippers werent cool or anything like that so get over it. You can have a lot of fun with strippers if you werent aware. All you need is a heafty bank roll.

reply to post by deadline527


Your version of "dance" and my version of "dance" must be total opposites. I thought dancing was supposed to be intimate not some "college student" shaking her butt and boobs for some old horny man.

Originally posted by MessOnTheFED!
reply to post by deadline527

 

Your version of "dance" and my version of "dance" must be total opposites. I thought dancing was supposed to be intimate not some "college student" shaking her butt and boobs for some old horny man.

Dancing can be anything, someone just going with the music. Not all strippers shake their butt in front of horny old men. Some actually dance very lady like, although erotic. Some I will admit, do dance quite shamefully. But I have seen others dance with some class.