I am the NWO. Let me tell you why I lied to you about MMGW

Nicelly said Brother S&F for you ...

It remainds me of a french movie called ''La Haine'' The moral is the same. So far so good as he is dropping from the building and at each and every floor he says to himself until here everything is fine but he just keeps thinking about the fall and not about the landing ... The landing is the end of it all ...

Great poetry brother ... I am not NWO but ''I am the future of this world and will one day put others to life to continu my work in this world'' ...

Those who will survive will deserve too ...

Fear No One, Trust No One

reply to post by argentus


I do agree. But also "they" are doing everything they can to keep us like this.

There is some truth in what you say. The problems are spiritual. Yes, we the people can reinforce each others hate, slinging arrows. However, those at the top often engage in these divide and conquer techniques for their own selfish benefit. Humanity's problems will NEVER be truly solved by the control of anybody. However, I can see how the threat of total control would serve to force people to gain self-control. They, we really, are corrected by waking ourselves up to what 1000's of years of deceptive wordsmithery and the mindless transference of increasingly split language have truly done, among other things. Tricking the trickster. You know, what we can think are our own thoughts might happen to be mindless repetitions from a war stance. The problem and the solution is within us all, bottom and top. The blame lies with all. The solution lies with all.

Here is a root spiritual disease: vainglory. This keeps the "masses," which is a vulgar, divisive term, trapped at the bottom. This keeps many at the top utterly foolish, making them co-creators of downward spirals.
Here is a solution: love and forgiveness and faith in general.

I am going to add that something in your post doesn't sit right with me. I could be wrong (I don't think so however), but it seems laden with arrogance. This causes a split amongst humanity and a master/slave dynamic. I must ask you if you are wrapped up in yourself. Are you one of those who plays the devil in order to force an angel to arise from the vacuum. These are vainglorious games, and they do not solve the real problem. It keeps the arrows slinging, unless, of course, your aim is to get the arrows slinging so powerfully that those who are spiritually weak sort of go bonkers.

[edit on 2-12-2009 by orwellianunenlightenment]

I don't post very often but was tweaked by this bit' of poetry. It has some profound meaning and truth but it falls short. Before I go on with what I'm about to say, I have to tell you this will probably go across like a lead brick. Considering what I've been reading from all the 'Anti Christian' threads and Athiest running around spewing all kinds of vitreol... but here are some facts from the Bible concerning the "New World Order"

The New World Order is evil and nothing more than a prolific manifestation of the Anti Christ spirit.

The New World Order is God's ongoing, (been around for many many years) and final instrument of judgment on the earth.

The New World Order will NOT have total power until God decides to give it power and takes the 'restrainer' out of the way. Even after the "New World Order" comes to power this 'rein' will be tenuous at best.

All the people who are pushing for the New World Order and have the same 'mind set' are bound and driven by the same spirit and most who are in this state don't realize what they are doing and that they are nothing more than deluded pawns for Satan.

The New World Order will fight against Jesus when he comes again and will be completely and totally crushed and all the people who were judged by it INCLUDING all the knowing and unknowing reprobates who helped set up the New World Order itself will all will be flushed down the toilet into hell.



Don't believe me? It's in the Bible! I'm not going to list all the scriptures to back this up unless folks want me to but that's the way it is kids.

Also, I don't care if you don't believe in the Bible or if you are a Anti Christian Athiest who doesn't understand that you have to have the same amount of faith to NOT believe in God than you do to believe and who also doesn't understand that you are but a heart beat and a breath away from meeting your creator and His judgment.

(Had to get that out there)


Anyways, interesting bit' of poetry but I'm not worried about any stinking "New World Order". It nothing but a cess pool pumping tool that God is using and when Hes done with it? He's going to throw it into the trash heap called hell along with all the other Godless 'dead branches' that denies Christ.



Read it and weap and if you don't like it? Tough. Believe what you will... You are NOT my judge and never will be.


Tried to write this in a lighter light but frankly, I'm a little incensed.

[edit on 2-12-2009 by ViewFromTheStars]

Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
So - lying helped? People that choose lies over truth that is grim enough should not wonder that it all backfired.
There is pollution we cause - talk about that.
There is deforestation - this is briefly mentioned.
There are huge dumps in the ocean - i never saw pictures of ugly waste islands on main news, only in internet.
We poison our self - but it drives the economy - keeps lots of jobs for middle class/poor and allows rich to become richer.
So best is to lie to child ,threaten him with boogie man so that he behaves better. Yes, very adult thing to do.
People are not stupid. Crowds that are created by mass lies are. Explain things to people, do not cry out slogans for crowds. Again - show the whole truth with what we do to our only home, it is at least as scary as those shaky lies.
Of course it is easier to lie to general public then to fight global corporations pumping up consumption rates.

The OP did have a point, the elite and the powerful that you do or don't see do look at us as ignorant and as children. They consider us essentially dumb savages, thats it. It's been hinted at a number of times from the Comedian Chappel yelling at a crowd about how he fights for the audience because the people behind the scenes consider the audience ignorant, to our politicians outright lying to their constituents in order for them to vote against their best interest and also to Kissinger calling the american military animals to be used. So there is something to what the man says. But another reason they elite does lie isn't all for the good of the planet, it's for them to be perceived to be in control all the time. There was a movie that came out back in 1990 called Miller's Crossing about the Irish mob trying to keep control of New Orleans around Prohibition. The Gabriel Burns is the advisor to the Irish mob leader and he tries to tell him not to go to war with the Italian upstart who is crazy. He said that a person is only in charge when people think he is in charge, when people stop thinking that your not. And that is the big reason they lie and hide and do whatever they do to not tell the truth outright.

Because if they decide to tell a truth like humans on this planet used to be controlled or essentially enslaved by a race of 6 fingered giants and then these giants left, they know we couldn't take it. And people would ask them questions and when they don't get the answers they want or not to their satisfaction, they will look to somebody else to give the answer and listen to them. It would essentially put the control and/or ruling of the people in the air like a jump ball and where it lands or who grabs it would be anybody guess.

Truer words were never spoken...

I will hold on to this for a very long time.

Thank you very much.

S&F

It's a conspiracy I tells yah, he was pushed he didn't jump!

I must admit, that even I, myself am loosing hope....what good is all of my composting, organic gardening, and boycotting polluting causing products, when all of my neighbours pesticides, car exaust, and chemtrails are polluting everything I do????

I am one out about 500,000, even if I were 1 out of 1000 it wouldn't be good enough.....

So I fight this battle alone, feeling futile while I watch my neighbour cut down the forrest of trees beside my house....the entire forrest...the whole reason I BOUGHT this house....my own fault for not buying up the district land in between our properties first?

Should those of us not fast enough with damage controll truly be at blame too, or mabey just those doing the damage???

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
reply to post by EnlightenUp

 

I see we are not familiar with the concept of literary license to make a point ...

The NWO didn't lie to you, or if they did, how the hell would I know ... I nor anyone else can say with certainty that there is such a thing as the NWO. Heck no one can say with certainty if the earth is cooling or warming or to what degrees humans can make such impact. As far as I'm concerned all we're doing is sticking our finger in the air and making assumptions.

What I am trying to get across with the OP, is that IT DOESN'T MATTER!

All the things I outlined in the OP and the above post should have nothing to do with the bloody weather.

And ultimately this is what worries me, now that some folks have what they think is conclusive evidence of mmgw hoaxing, they will go back to exactly as they were ... if there is such a thing as the NWO, THAT would be their plan!

Unless of course you think that the email "leak" was a goof ... come on now.


[edit on 2 Dec 2009 by schrodingers dog]

You're afraid people will throw the baby out with the bath water. Well yeah.

I don't think all environmental actions will be discarded. Maybe a second look at questionable decisions is in order, for example DDT. DTT was banned because it was said by an author who said it was harmful to birds. However malaria is more harmful to humans. Rucklehaus banned it in the USA disregarding studies saying it was safe. Too much power in one man's hands. Congress should control this with real scientific input, not some charade.

Maybe evolution has produced human intelligence just in the time we need it the most. Political decisions over science or science that smears the truth is not at all helpful to living on his world.

reply to post by mellisamouse

There is always a bright side if you look.
#1 At least this way your houses wont burn in a forest fire!
#2 You will be able to see a sunset/sunrise!
#3 No one will be able to tell you that you cant see the forest for the trees...
#4 Your neighbor can see your house to report any burglars!

Sorry if this is not helping much, but I am trying.
And thanks for what you do to help mama nature!

The NWO represents the collective consciousness of humanity.
If they exist, they are our bad traits not our good ones.
And the crap always floats to the top.

I don't believe they act as a mother and a father anymore than the government does.

[edit on 2-12-2009 by T0by]

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Because you deplete your oceans of life, you deprive your forests of trees, you kill each other with pollutants and carcinogens, you treat your garden like a dump, you consume without regard to your future, you wipe out species for caprice, you're apathetic towards your home and your fellow man, you snub your nose at nature and fail to live in harmony with it, you fight wars over liquids, you poison and destroy everything you touch.

All that you say is a consequence of the human culture,. Is not the NWO very involved in the creation of the occidental culture? . I would say the NWO is as guilty as everybody else.

I had to LIE to you just to get you to do the right thing!

And what makes you think you REALLY know what the right thing is?? 10,000 years of accumulated knowledge do not guaranty you understand the Truth. You are trying to justify to yourself. I do not think that would work when your heart gots weigh,

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
You and I sir, are on exactly the same page!

The metaphor/parable imho still stands, inasmuch as we're as a species falling past the second existential floor, and we keep telling ourselves "so far so good."

More accurately, I was trying to find YOUR page.

I still think the hysteria (AGW or something else) does more harm than good since it muddies the waters. Collectively, there is increased doubt of what's real even if there is individual certainty. In the parable, who knows if there really is a man milliseconds before impact. Maybe some don't think he's there. Maybe other's don't care.

This guys lying, I know because I do "work" for the "real nwo", and the real nwo's don't have internet access. (I've been to hundreds of the richest people's domecile's in the U.S., I personnally know 10-12 scions of the Super-Rich). They don't have time to be screwing around on the "internet".

Look it up, how many times do you have to hear on the idiot box that this or that Rep/Senator/Pres/Richie Rich hasn't been to a grocery store, conv. store, gas station, or anywhere else average people go to and if he was a nwo, he would be part of a "family" and family members are always given tasks, (running businesses, manageing properties, doing chores(picking up money from drug/alcohol/contraband sales/distribution),) Many of them have complained to me that their "Patriarchs'" keep loading them up with more and more stuff to do for the "family", and that they don't ever have time to enjoy the supposed "Wealth" that being part of the "family" has to offer. (I secrectly laugh at them, cause the way I live/have set up my "life", I always have time to do whatever I want to do!)(I'm "self-employed", NO ONE EVER tells me what to do, EVER!)

Just ignore this guy, he's probably some troll in his underwear in his mothers basement dreaming/imagineing what a real female feels like when you touch them.(cliche, I know, just trying to make a funny.)

Peace, Love and don't Ever be Jealous of the "rich", cause they are almost always 100% miserable!ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!

Originally posted by mellisamouse
I must admit, that even I, myself am loosing hope....what good is all of my composting, organic gardening, and boycotting polluting causing products, when all of my neighbours pesticides, car exaust, and chemtrails are polluting everything I do????

First, i think it is good to have your own conscience at peace. You are responsible for your own acts, not others.

Second, this world is always in need of good leaders, and your example is something worthy of being followed.

Third, this is a complex problem , not everybody is willing to change its way of life. Even less when people is not quite convinced its life depend on it.

Lies or not makes no difference,nowadays everything is a lie in some shape or form.

When someone says there doing it for my own good I say "ya right".

Funny what a couple a drinks will do to someones ego.

reply to post by schrodingers dog


Cute
Well written
Stupid
Treat people like children and they will act like them. Try treating people like adults, you might be surprised.

Originally posted by EnlightenUp

I still think the hysteria (AGW or something else) does more harm than good since it muddies the waters. Collectively, there is increased doubt of what's real even if there is individual certainty.

That is a fair point.

Here's what I believe happened ... a more realistic scenario than the convenient NWO scapegoat.

Scientist, especially earth scientists, study what they do and become who they are principally out of a shared respect and affection for the earth and our environment. This impetus in my estimation, seeing whet we as humans do to our planet, in some cases clouded what should always be their primary raison d'etre ... the search for the truth.

So they see what they see, they try to tell us, and we keep on doing what we've always done ... we keep raping this planet and all its inhabitants unimpeded.

Take my entire OP, and substitute "NWO" with "well meaning but disingenuous scientists" and to me, that would be the most realistic sequence of events that have led us to this juncture. And you're right, now that some of them have been uncovered, they have done their cause more harm than good, and that is why with science, even if one doesn't like the outcome, truth must always come first.

Still, with all that being said, the original point stands.

Change our ways, not because of GW but because of a thousand other valid reasons, or suffer the consequences.

In the parable, who knows if there really is a man milliseconds before impact. Maybe some don't think he's there. Maybe other's don't care.

How very very true.

Originally posted by Keymaster1

This guys lying ...

You think?

Just ignore this guy, he's probably some troll in his underwear in his mothers basement dreaming/imagineing what a real female feels like when you touch them.

Correction, grandmother.

Now how about we do this thing called "read the whole thread" ... I hear it works wonders with the thinking and the posting.

Originally posted by schrodingers dog


Before I sign off, let me share a parable with you ...

There was a man, a desperate man, who stood at the top of a skyscraper. He stood on the ledge and took stock of his life before taking one final leap to the heavens. People gathered on the street and looked up, people gathered in their offices and looked out their window. Finally, soul in hand, the man jumps. And as his figure made its way past every floor, the people looking at him falling past their window would say: "So far, so good!"

And as he passed the 2nd floor, people still said: "So far, so good!" And they were right ... for, even though he was but a split second from demise, he was just as alive at the 2nd floor as he was when he woke up that morning.

I am the NWO, and I am looking at you right now, and I can say: "So far, so good!"

And though you may think that all that matters is your present condition, you are truly falling past the 2nd floor.


[edit on 2 Dec 2009 by schrodingers dog]

Note left on the top of the Empire State building by the jumper;

Nothing above

Nothing below

So I leap off