"Liberals" the New Hate Group

I once knew a man back in NYC who would spew Descartes from his mouth onto a plate with Plato on the side, he knew every Law, every Geographical position on the map, followed the news daily had something to say about every group and every cause and every political situation there was, knew ever buzz word had a Masters from NYU, spent time buzzing bookshops and attending lectures, read night and day, supported every alternative lifestyle had friends among every group of intellectuals in NYC

He was great friend,

He also died when he was 37 coming out of a KFC of a stroke.

I use him as an example, of why Liberals Hate everyone else and this is in response to rampant Plain Hating on this forum...

There is an old saying

If your not Liberal when you are 20, you have no Heart

If your Not conservative by the time your 40 you have no brain.

In life I have found this to be utter and absolute truth.

My buddy would have Hated Palin, there was a time I would have hated her too actually...

The thing is though, he's dead, a hard lesson in Liberalism in practice vs Liberalism as a heart felt philosophy.

Take Obama, the MAN IS A CONSERVATIVE, he supports liberal ideals, combined the liberal votes, gay, Black and Other into a win... he offers health care and slams against the rich.

But in practice he's a Conservative, he doesn't even give out presents on xmas... he's tight, pinchy, relatively healthy, hard working.

If he wasn't he couldn't be successful...

So while he supports those who can't be for whatever reason, in day to day life he's a solid conservative.

And facts are facts a Liberal life style will inevitable by comparison wreck you compared to a conservative lifestyle... lets face it, if you party a couple of times a week... instead of devote time to family or savings, your going to be a train wreck eventually

I'd like to address my typical Liberal friends back Home in NYC

1: They pay 3-5x more for a house than I will

2: population density dictates they face constant crime

3: Commute by subway is much longer and less time for family

4: health and exercise, fresh air, fresh water is harder to come by

5: Stress and noise pollution take it's toll

6: Law and enforcement are part of daily life...more stress, cameras, lights, crowding, stops, checks, grilling....


Of 5 friends back home my age...between 40 and 45, same age as Sarah Plain

Only One has a child, Two remain unwed and probably never will be

The Urban Liberal Dweller is typically... Miserable, Lonely and works way too much at work that does the body and soul no good...

I'd say my Dead friend or living ones any of them, on a level, Intellectually had/have more brains in his rear end than Sarah Plain or any of my neighbors... I'm talking about Lawyers and Doctors

But what they LACK is typical common sense...

It was Common sense that dictated to me over 5 years ago, that a One Million Dollar House in Jersey to Commute 2 hrs to work, was not worth an extra 10 G in salary

It was Common sense that told me 20 yrs added life expectancy was worth far more economically to me and in my life than a Title or a label.

I see, my UBER Intellectual friends who act like they are soooo smart back home and they are Miserable and they hate everyone else...

They want gun control... because they are Scared every day going to work as they get older.

They need health care because they eat like crap, work too much and aged very badly

They don't like kids, because they can't cram any into a 2 bdrm apt that costs 2500 a month

I am trying here to illustrate a point, that almost every single Hard Core Liberal I have known, is MISERABLE as they enter now their later years, a simple glance at Hillarys face would explain this.

To Illustrate...

18 Months ago I was home and I went out in NYC with a buddy of mine, die hard liberal also a Doctor as well... Going out with this 40 year old man and experiencing my friends lifestyle after 20 years was... embarrassing, it was sad... at 20, the Liberal crowd was fun, diverse, heavily populated with others enough like myself to have success with women, a good time for all...

But at 40 it was simply sad...

Here we were at a party with, all gay guys and young Black rap guys (who frankly seemed as interested in getting it on with the white guys as the white women imho)

and there he was standing in the corner, dressed metro sexual, woman-less completely out of the loop

The guy, a damn good friend once, a surgeon for the love of god... had no sexual offering in the crowd, he was an outcast, everyone loved him but he was the typical White goofball... he wasn't a peer...

His place, for being a surgeon was smaller than a trailer, he went home alone and got on facebook...

It was Sad...

Yet he Fervently defends his life choices.... he has to RATIONALIZE that he made good choices, utterly alone, utterly outcast socially...NOT respected by the groups he supported as a kid anymore than as an oddity

This is the life of the Typical Liberal Caucasian in a major Urban area over 40... Choices made from heart with no common sense

Museums never used, clubs he never fit in and availability of fast food packaged in Phylate tainted packaging making him FAT, SOFT, PALE and FEMININE

A home with no room for Love and Life and Nights Alone...

Misery...

Followed by anger and Hate spewed at him that he has absorbed for...HIMSELF, his family and any person who did it differently. Who is HAPPY who has LOVE in their lives.

This bring me full circle to Palin...

Many of you hate her, explain why she is dumb, mock her lack of "intellectual" skill

And like I said at 20... i'd have hated her too

But at 40... I really like that someone is standing up for communities like the one I live in now... places like this, like Alaska or Wyoming where... having a Family, Being who I am, being healthy, Community, shared lifestyles match mine...

Because as Liberal as I was...

I'm not Gay...

nor am I Black...

I want a Family again, I want to be able to go out and meet White Women that want children...

The multiculturalism ROCKED...when I was 20

Now back home.. it's more a pain in the neck, worse, since the inception of the movement, i'm an outcast... If not Gay, I am "in the closet" lol, if I don't like Rap I'm a Hater...and that's complete nonsense...

Even if I made all the Money in the world in Liberal NYC... I'd be like my buddies, Alone and half a man or if lucky Married but unable to have kids...

These LIBERALS over 40 are NOT happy people if they are truely hetero Men or Women, they are in MISERY

The Self Hatred and feeling of being "not cool" is so apparent on the faces is is frightening and they go and on about the likes of Palin...

Palin who... is very happy, Palin who has Five kids, a Big House the outdoors...a Life a real life where she belongs and is accepted by her peers as good as she is.

Palin, at 45 looks fantastic... she is healthy as a horse, she lives naturally...

These people use meds and pharma and surgery and still die young, My mom kicked it of Cancer in that environment at 55, only 10 years older than Plain the Bear hunter is now...

Obese from lack of exercise, or Bulemic from social pressure...

My Mother lived in constant FEAR

Me... I leave my door open at night

And these people here are Morons because they don't read Descartes and act pretentious?

Or is the TRUTH... that most aging Liberals, live in pain are basically unhealthy and don't actually fit in particularly among Caucasians?

So Palin and her supporters are dumb?

But yet the Intellectuals are Miserable, they are busy contemplating while others kiss the Beautiful Girls by the time they are my age, lonely and alone to the 90%

Is that actually SMART?

Is that actually good for America?

Is that a way of life you want to be pushed into the heart land by LAW?

I see... 75 year olds in NYC who are in homes, or living only off rent control and SS, my father is one of them...never had enough to buy a home in NYC...

Liberal guy

But my neighbor who is 86, chops wood every day while my dad already had an Aneurysm and can barely walk...

Does that guy or any of them... have any ill will by Race or Belief or sexuality to anyone else.... no

They simply seek to protect their lifestyle because they have COMMON SENSE and Simple ways that in the long run are much more successful...

What exactly is wrong with the Plain/Palin way of life?

The answer is NOTHING, it's totally decent, even if you want to discard the religious aspect (which I basically do) it's really nice living... and it ENDURES the test of time better


I can't well Imagine...

What my Dad or my buddy is going through... He will never have Christmas with his whole family, his wife is already dead, he will never meet a companion that matches him, he's going to die alone and there is little I can do to stop it because he can't even fly

My buddy will never have kids, his family line gone...

The loneliness is staggering and for what? To follow this PC nonsense? hate yourself, support everyone else but your own life?

Bottom Line?

If you can picture being between 40 and 50, who would you rather be? Hillary or Palin? Who's the Happier person? The Lady with the Fat Soft Urban Liberal CHEATING Bill Clinton, Anorexic, Evil of face and Demeanor?

or

Palin with Todd the Snowmobile riding MAN

Who's healthier? Who's Happier? Who has more Love in their daily lives?

Who has the better home? The Apt in Harlem empty of children, or the Big House in the Woods? Which couple has romance? a good sex Life?

It's the perfect example of Liberal vs Modern Conservatism... Just look at Palin and Todds Life and Hillary and Bills life...

Look at their bodies their faces...

Then HATE Palin? Why?

What are the Liberals but Unhappy Control freaks with major agendas by that age?

They Hate everyone, because the truth is they grew up... to Hate themselves.


















[edit on 27-11-2009 by mopusvindictus]

Wtf? .. After "I use him as an example, of why Liberals Hate everyone else" all i heard is Blah,Blah,Blah ..




.. Please stop it with your conservative propaganda...

.. WE DO NOT WANT TO KILL YOUR GRANDMOTHER!!!


..Also you said - "They need health care because they eat like crap, work too much and aged very badly "...

Serioslly? have you been to texas?? - Conservative and Fat...

.. -- This Thread is ridiculous..

[edit on 27-11-2009 by Polynomial C]

it's an incredibly good point made very well.....but wouldn't it be okay to be a liberal in the country? i don't really see why you absolutely have to be as uninformed as palin just because you live in the country.

i mean, okay, live in the country, be healthy and if you really must, be a conservative, but, ffs, pick up a book once in a while.

reply to post by Polynomial C


Thank You for illustrating my point...

"After you read.... all you heard was Blah, Blah, Blah"

That's exactly it, it's Dogma as bad as the worst of Religion, it is the NEW RELIGION

Any commentary beyond what you wish to hear becomes Blah, Blah, Blah...

Liberalism has become Dogmatic, inflexible, abusive to others... (which you certainly are being) incapable of hearing another point of view...

It basically really is a reversal of Nazi philosophy in which any lifestyle no matter how corrosive or at the least not useful to society has absolute Voice and Tradition has none...

You said it...

"blah blah blah"

You HEARD NOTHING

So is LIBERALISM... actually LIBERAL anymore?

NO, it's totally not... I'd say as a human being I am actually Liberal, I have an open mind, by LIBERALISM was Hijacked long ago!

It's not actual Liberal at all anymore, it's just blanket policies that revolve around minority issues, lifestyle gaia theory and hatred of faith

That's not Liberal, that';s Dogma...

Thanks for proving my point by not even listening... Stalin would be proud

reply to post by mopusvindictus


I am sorry.. but that is the only way i can respond to a thread.. so.. ridiculous..

.. i mean, come on .. do really think all liberals are like that.. how closed-minded are you??

.. Also.. Stalin was closer to your kind of people...

( the fact that you put Liberals in the same category as Stalin makes you a "brainwashed by the right-wing" kind of person)

[edit on 27-11-2009 by Polynomial C]

reply to post by pieman


Well...

That's a whole other aspect, things have changed, you no longer thanks to the Internet need to be uneducated or uncultured if your in the stix as opposed to the city...

Education is available, work is more available... thanks to Computers, Cable etc...

Why is this in the conspiracy section?

Am I missing a conspiracy here?

I'm an older conservative female and even i think much of the OP was BS.
FYI just because one doesn't have kids doesn't mean that person hates them or has a shallow life. OMG I'm so sick of judgemental people like the op who tbo seem just as hateful and miserable as the liberals he claims are so miserable.
One thing i've noticed in life is that you really can't stereotype people and say 'all X are Y'

reply to post by Polynomial C


Liberals cater ONLY for minorities.
I don't mean minority races/religions etc, I mean minority ideals.
Example. If two hundred and ninety million people want all cars to be painted red, and ten million people want the cars to be blue, the left wing, politically correct, do good liberals would be fighting tooth and nail for the minority that want blue cars. "the little man needs to be heard, the little man needs to be represented", liberals only listen to bullsh*t, touchy-feely ideals and left wing propoganda. As soon as a liberal starts actually thinking for themselves, and using commonsense instead of dribble spewing from mouths of dullards, they become conservatives.
FACT!

Fear + Ignorance often manifests as "hate" ... dogma/ideology is but a vehicle for it.

Conservative, liberal, etc, are but car makes interchangeable but not the root cause.

Hence why "hate" isn't restricted to, or the monopoly of, any "ism" ... it precedes them.

reply to post by Polynomial C


Explain to me how a culture unified by all into ONE master culture is any different than the method of Racial Obliteration practiced by Hitler and Stalin?

Is not PC actually a Master Race philosophy simply re arranged to incorporate everyone into an individually culture less ONE same as a Master Race theory?

If you eliminate Christmas in stores, teach homosexuality to Children, disallow individualism or individual belief systems at least Publicly is this not exactly the same as Russia or China?

I see the same things...

Nationalistic Law and elimination of states rights

Law enforcement of Racial and Lifestyle choices...

The only thing different is instead of being All One Race we are to be...all One Race and people by incorporation...

But that still is eliminating cultures, including Judeo Christian Faith (of which I have little belief)

But when you disallow thought or belief for any reason, how is it any different than what Stalin did... or Hitler?

We don't burn books...we Nationalize Education and assign them...is that different? How?

Id there Religious Freedom when you have to change your religious beliefs to suit the masses, or is it Religious elimination?

Is Liberalism really Liberal anymore?

That should be the real title to this thread actually

Is it?

NO

The groups being condemned are just being condemed socially not by gas chamber...they have no actual rights anymore that's for sure...


You can be arrested in AMERICA dor speaking your mind, that's not Liberal, that's Liberalism... Just now another ISM

We can debate the rights and wrong of any side.... all day long...

But the fact is...

if you can't speak your mind, there is nothing LIBERAL about that

If you can be detained for thought or belief there is nothing liberal about that

If your forced to integrate and break your vows your religion and beliefs and control of the up bringing of your children is gone...you don't live in a LIBERAL place...

That's far more like Facism even it completely reverses racial and social ideologies to accomplish the end goal.

reply to post by ~Lucidity


Well, the Conspiracy imho would be that we have waxed incredibly fascist and nationalistic under the guise of things like PC which to me is nothing more nor less than the tools used in the Second World war.

I would maintain that European Socialism and Communism both made major inroads through Various "Liberal" organizations through the Decades and what we have going on is actually quite wretched and using the "Liberal" name when in fact there is nothing Liberal about it...

With that said...

General, was the reason i chose the the place to post...because it didn't feel like a tight fit anywhere

and for the record...

I'm not some major Plain fan... honestly

But I just don't see what is WRONG with the lifestyle she wishes to preserve...

Like all things it has it's downside, particularly if the whole god aspect throws you...

But it's a really, really nice life... rather wholesome, applicable to longevity, less stressful for sure...

And all I see against it is HATE, real Hate...

So, only liberals are unhappy hate filled individuals? Does that mean all those tea party members and other conservatives at the health care town meetings screaming with red faces and veins bulging were happy go lucky conservatives?

I am sure there are plenty of happy liberals. If I remember correctly, Hawaii is one of the states with the happiest and healthiest people. It's also one of the more liberal states.

Originally posted by FunSized
I'm an older conservative female and even i think much of the OP was BS.
FYI just because one doesn't have kids doesn't mean that person hates them or has a shallow life. OMG I'm so sick of judgemental people like the op who tbo seem just as hateful and miserable as the liberals he claims are so miserable.
One thing i've noticed in life is that you really can't stereotype people and say 'all X are Y'

No it does NOT mean that all people who choose not to have kids hate them...

Yes there are some people who have adopted this lifestyle that are truly happy

But demographics are demographics and Biology is Biology...

There might be 1% of people who have no need for Sex...

The rest of us really just want to have kids and be LOVED, it's Biology...

And what happens in absence of this in your life? You adopted causes try to save the world join groups get really over involved in your issues...

When I go to the Upper West side...

I SEE with my eyes the Skinny Viscous Liberal women preaching and posing.

Once upon a time... this WAS the domain of the Christian fundamentalist Woman, that's who I mentally associated with that look...

But over the years it's changed, the MISSION is now among that camp, the Dogma spewers, those who would control society, who live by a set of inflexible rules that must be put upon anyone else...

this has switched...

The Dogmatic and inflexible among us are now... the pinched faced bitter folks of what was ONCE UPON A TIME... a genuinely Liberal part of our society


I am not...

nearly as concerned btw about defending Conservatives as I am questioning WHERE REAL LIBERALS WENT

Because they barely exist anymore...

reply to post by cannibalman


Thank you for getting the point...

Liberalism has become an ISM

Worse a BAD ISM a Totalitarian ISM disguised as free thinking when in fact absolutely nothing new is genuinely coming from it...

FAR FROM MULTICULTURALISM it is as rampant a destroyer of all Cultural and individuality as any ISM of the past 100 years has been...

Tell me anyone?

If you ethnically integrate EVERYONE what race would be left beyond a new Master Race?

What "culture" will be standing when this is said and done?

The answer is simple... there will be NO culture whatsoever by this philosophy and already we are nearly culture less...

Are you kidding me? I am a liberal and accept everyone equally. I hate somebody if they deserve the hate. Liberals are the ones who are hated. Everywhere I go there are always liberal basher who attack liberals for what they believe. They are just pissed that we don't want the same things they want and that the majority of the population in 20 years will be liberal.

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Fear + Ignorance often manifests as "hate" ... dogma/ideology is but a vehicle for it.

Conservative, liberal, etc, are but car makes interchangeable but not the root cause.

Hence why "hate" isn't restricted to, or the monopoly of, any "ism" ... it precedes them.

Yes... always never a dumb word SD

And TRUE if the Palins of the nation were to dominate, it would be the exact same thing but a different Goose step

But on THIS ROUND

They are on the Defense of the assault, and I can't support the abridgment of anyones right to exist in their light of what they think the world should be, 2 wrongs doesn't make a right, whatever their people did when they were they majority is no rationale for oppressing their beliefs or lifestyle 150 years later

And this is what I see...

The current Evil ISM, is Liberalism, and as I see things I always have to support the underdog in any balance of the Ism's because in the end it keeps the Pendulum from swinging too far.

I admit the support of a Palin is.... a bit Alien to me given who I am and all

But, this struggle, this time is on that side...

We haven't had a good president capable of being fair and balanced since Kennedy... and even longer before that, maybe you could say Regan was the LAST Conservative...

Over 20 years, a generation and allot has changed, the reality is, these are the people fighting against a Bad Ism this time.

An Ugly ISM that would make a generic population.

reply to post by paranoiaFTW


I would disagree with that.

We are on around 40 years since Divorce was accepted in our society as something that is common place and okay to do...

This is a Generation of kids coming up that had no families, terrible holidays, no traditions and no security.

I think... after SEEING with eyes, the physical effects of bad lifestyle, feeling the effects of split families... seeing the worthlessness of only a pursuit of Money as the "most important aspect of life"

I think we will see in another 10 years a Major shift in demographic in terms of lifestyle...

Among ALL peoples...

Because what doesn't work doesn't work...

There is allot you can say about the fakeness and the BS of Traditional values...YES

But what is in it's place...

Senior citizens dying alone with no children... these things are visable to people, they are not lost on people.

If a road goes nowhere (no pun on Palin) you don't use it....

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
Tell me anyone?

If you ethnically integrate EVERYONE what race would be left beyond a new Master Race?

It would be The Race.

What "culture" will be standing when this is said and done?

It would be The Culture.

The answer is simple... there will be NO culture whatsoever by this philosophy and already we are nearly culture less...

Or as above, it would have culture and that culture would be The Culture. Culture is not a static thing, never has or will be.

reply to post by mopusvindictus


Great thread my man! Been giving you well deserved stars.

I think it might help you understand if you realize that Liberals, especially the "Progressives", are really nothig other than putting a friendy name on Communism. The Progressives have their roots out of the old Communist Party that existed back in the day here in the USA.

Once you realize that, all of the apparent insanity on their part kind of falls together into one big, fat, ugly picture.