I smell here ... hmmmm ... the biggest conspiracy in human history.

I am only asking questions.
My question tags:

1) Why do archeologsts get paranoid, agressive when there is a mention of a culture or civilization that is more then 10.000 years old. What happend in this period of time that they had to be "programmed" by the TPTB administred school brainwashing.

2) Why doctor Zari Hawass the director of Giza Plateu excavation zone gets on the absolute agressive stand when there is ever a mention of rainfall erosion on the Sfinx (last great rainfalls:11000 - 10000 bc - end of the last iceage) or that that the Sfinx represents the lion symbol of the age of Lion (12.000 -9500 bc).

3) Why Archeologists go into absolute silence when someone says anything about the Serbian 3-side piramid near Sarajevo - Bosnia built 10.000 bc built out of a better material than modern concrete (super concrete), or cities submerged into the sea on the coast of India, Pakistan, Cuba, Japan, south Anatolia(Turkey- ancestors of the Minoan culture) which flourished before the sea level rose after , you guess it, the end of the last ice age.

4)Why is there absolute silence in the MSM about radioactive debris found in old antique by "fire" destroyed cities in Pakistan and India (near new delhi they were building a new residential area, when workers became sick. They learned there are ruins of an old city there, where human skeletons[thousands] werent in the middle of it but on the outskirts of it, facing not the center. Even now archelogists have a permision only for an half an hour to dig there out of health dangers). No crater found, therefor no meteorite impact.
+ Nuclear green "New Mexico-Nevada" like glass found there (+ same glass found on the Sinai penisula, Lybian desert, Mongolian Wastelands near the chinese borders ... "I don´t think i am right with Sinai thing, sorry.")
+ The nearest nuclear facility is hundrerds of miles away.

I am only asking questions.


Sorry for errors in text. Mods feel free to move.

I would be really glad, if some of our more skilled and experienced members, in this matter, would come forth and answered these q-tags for us unenlightened (and I mean also myself).



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I'm not sure you can call it the biggest conspiracy in human history, but there does indeed seem to be a tendency among historians and archeologists to ignore the very possibility of a pre-dilluvian society and to simply ignore major historical anomalies.

Why? Your guess is as good as mine...

Now you are talking!

All of these archeologists belong to exclusive professional societies. These societies are another "tree" of secret societies. They are bound by oaths as well.

You cannot become a professional without joining the societies. They are heavily regulated. You even think of opening your mouth and you will never go on another dig!


Check out the logo....(serpent and grail)

www.royalarchaeolinst.org...

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I wanted to make a resume on everything about our recent history (yes, you are right , I ment 100.000 - 10.000 is our recent history ) mysteries and hidden knowledge that we all and some of our wiser were pinpointing to for a long time.

I would be really glad, if some of our more skilled and experienced members, in this matter, would come forth and answered these q-tags for us unenlightened (and I mean also myself). You will make us wiser too in the process

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haha, great questions and great points as well.

i am sure all of us would like to know the real "truth" to those questions

I belive you are referring to an ancient battle of some sorts that involved Nukes?

If you are, you are on to something.

Archeologist do not like Zecharia Sithin for many reasons, but his evidence for this theory is the main one.

Evidence suggest something like this may have occured.

I don't trust most arxheologist as I do not trust most centrally powered organizations.

Thanks for this post.

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I am not reffering to an battle ... I am reffering to the conspiracy and why is it soooooooooooooooooooooooo important for the TPTBs (who ever they are) to erase/get rid off the reality of our ancient history from our memories and knowledge.

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There are a few simple answers to your questions Durabys.

Archeologists get touchy whenever these questions are raised because it challenges the whole authenticity of their entire eduction. With years upon years of funneling all their time, resources, and thoughts to a specific curriculum, it is no doubt they are upset and touchy whenever a challenge to their knowledge is brought forward. In their view, the "official" history of the world is almost unquestionable, and that is what they are taught. An equivalent would be to walk up to a person who has graduated from business school and tell them that profit is not the focus of enterprise.

As with many sections of study and research/education, the dilemma is conservatism vs new science. As science is growing exponentially, new theories are having harder times being accepted into mainstream education for understandble reasons: with the rate of discoveries and growth, cirriculums, methods of instruction, and entire philosophies and bases of knowledge would have to be updated and changed almost constantly to keep up.

An official acceptance that human history is much more complex and unknown is an issue comparable to the ET/UFO issue. Acceptance would require us to change our entire perspective of who we are and what we are capable of. Acceptance would also create more unanswerable questions than answers- something that the current scientific worldview can't and will never accept. Anything that is not able to produce enough evidence to be studied in a professional manner will be ignored.

Therefore, questioning professional archeologists about these issues could be viewed by some of them as a slap on the face; if they were to accept this idea, it would throw out and make all their education basically pointless, and also would make their studies and careers pointless, because although their is evidence of these civilizations, their is no where near enough evidence to support any kind of theory or hypothesis as to what it means.

All we know about these ancient civilizations is that they existed, and don't exist anymore. There almost no evidence whatsoever about their culture, language, government, infrastructure, history, or fate. We simply know that they existed then, and don't exist now.

Hopefully though, more answers will come forth in the future.

Originally posted by Durabys
I am not reffering to an battle ... I am reffering to the conspiracy and why is it soooooooooooooooooooooooo important for the TPTBs (who ever they are) to erase/get rid off the reality of our ancient history from our memories and knowledge.

Maybze our "leaders" have some hidden knowledge orriginating from an advanced culture in our past an like to keep that knowledge for themselves?

its really fine that they hide this stuff, because the truth has its own way to emerge, by any means its able to adapt and surface, Regardless of who tries to hide it, the truth will become freed.

I think that hiding the ancient sites and the data collected there is done because it would clearly support our contact with ET's - they simply do not want to release this kind of information - because then suddenly people are going to ask questions like "Are we currently in contact with ET'S?"

I think that there is also real scientific and engineering data that has been collected from ancient sites - pertaining to building 'free energy' devices that don't need oil - so those are obviously secret, otherwise undermining the power of oil.

In short I would say its related to keeping larger secrets - the nature of the vacuum, free energy, ongoing contact with ET's - and possibly due to things we may have to do to qualify our entry to the local galactic civilization.

I think that the plan is to separate humans into a ruler species, and a slave species - that functions more like biological robots. In reality - most people are basically biological robots already - not able to think for themselves, and just working for their controllers interests.

Originally posted by Durabys

4)Why is there absolute silence in the MSM about radioactive debris found in old antique by "fire" destroyed cities in Pakistan and India (near new delhi they were building a new residential area, when workers became sick. They learned there are ruins of an old city there, where human skeletons[thousands] werent in the middle of it but on the outskirts of it, facing not the center. Even now archelogists have a permision only for an half an hour to dig there out of health dangers). No crater found, therefor no meteorite impact.
+ Nuclear green "New Mexico-Nevada" like glass found there (+ same glass found on the Sinai penisula, Lybian desert, Mongolian Wastelands near the chinese borders ... "I don´t think i am right with Sinai thing, sorry.")
+ The nearest nuclear facility is hundrerds of miles away.

This is particularly interesting to me. Can you provide any links about the radioactive debris found? No crater found does not necessarily mean no impact....(Tunguska)....Wouldn't we have found some type of nuclear material processing center? Or would they have buried that so we wouldn't find it?

S & F Good Thread.

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love it. always been fascinated with alternative views of history. and by 'alternative' i mean rational.

Akkadian Empire

22,000+/- BC.

Sumer

The Sumerian city states rose to power during the prehistorical Ubaid and Uruk periods. Sumerian history reaches back to the 26th century BC and before, but the historical record remains obscure until the Early Dynastic III period,....

I have a theory. lets say you have 10,000 people living in one place. lets say these people have been living there for 5,000 years. when some one dies, instead of burying that person with their prized basket, they keep using it, because its not like they could go to walmart and get new ones. only 1 out of every 1000 objects last long enough in time to be studied by archeolgists. just because they find something from 1500 BC, it doesnt mean that people were NOT there before that time. I mean, really think about it;

its 20,000 years ago. your in mespoatania. you have a pot that was made from clay. one day it breaks and you leave the pieces outside your hut, and no one moves them for years. after a while dirt and other things cover these pieces of pottery. fast forward 20,000 years and someone finds these pots, and sees that they are pretty old. its very rare that would happen, but it has to happen otherwise we would never find artifacts.

its not like these people where thoughtful about leaving their junk behind thinking, "those archeologists are going to flip when they see we have been using fire for 500 years longer than their books say."

the really interesting thing is if all humans were killed instantly, and in 40,000 some life form starts poking around, what do you think they would deduce from doing archeological digs of our 'modern society'?

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Here are some links:

www.trulyunusual.com... - internet discussion

greyfalcon.us... - Vedic scriptures

www.abovetopsecret.com... -ATS stuff

www.sciforums.com... - someone that has questions like me

The problem here is that what archeologists and anthropologists, and certain historians have offered us authoritatively might just turn out to be the real 'alternative' history.... and they stand to lose to much ego currency if they were called upon to completely review their proposed 'facts' and rationale for what they teach and write about.

Very good thread idea....

Originally posted by Durabys
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Here are some links:

www.trulyunusual.com... - internet discussion

greyfalcon.us... - Vedic scriptures

www.abovetopsecret.com... -ATS stuff

www.sciforums.com... - someone that has questions like me

Thanks for the links, I have some afternoon reading now!
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+ this too:

www.rense.com... - from rense.com

I read a story recently about G-men covering up archeology sites with bull dozers. Check it...

www.viewzone.com...

A friend of mine, in recent years, had a long talk with a New Zealand girl called Lisa Kerr. She'd done extensive traveling, like many young New Zealanders, who head out on their traditional OE (overseas excursion). Lisa, amongst several jobs she got around the world, worked for a while with the New Mexico Park's Department. During her term of employment there was a big "washout" in one of the Park regions and I'm assuming it was up in Pueblo country around Taos. The flash flood scoured out embankments and in doing so a large number of anomalous skeletons were exposed. Lisa and her colleagues were assigned the task of gathering up the remains and placing them into crates. Also in attendance at the site were Smithsonian Institute officials and FBI agents. Each day as Lisa and the other Park's Department employees went onto the site, they were searched for cameras. Similarly they were searched as they left the site each day to make sure they weren't removing artifacts. They were also obliged to sign "secrecy documents" ensuring that they would never divulge details of their participation in this undertaking. The reason for this degree of secrecy stems from the fact that the skeletons were of people who were about 8 feet tall. They had six fingers on each hand and six toes per foot. They also had a strange, double row arrangement of teeth.

Originally posted by Dave157
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haha, great questions and great points as well.

i am sure all of us would like to know the real "truth" to those questions

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cheers,