Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

Well, here is the video of the airport terrorist level so you can decide for your self.

www.destructoid.com...

yeah this game is fantastic. You can complain all you want, but when SHTF and ive been trained from playing FPS games like this instead of World of Warcraft, I'll be good.

I know they say games don't kill people and don't mentally train you for things as such, then why does the military use computer simulations to train the troops?

I'm not saying these games cause people to go out and commit random acts of violence, but constatnly playing games like this does have an impact on how well a person can pull of this type of event. Too bad we can't figure out a way to keep it out of the hands of mentally ill people.


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all this blood and gore glorifying killing and war ,or is it way of letting us all know what is about to begin to happen world wide .LIFE IS CHEAP-ASK YOUR LEADERS-we are all cannon fodder to them and our loss is acceptable -their own words .desensitizing the populace to the HORRORS OF WAR.

i had relatives and grand parents who fought in the first and second world wars- until the day they died they took all of this fear and terror that they experienced to the grave with them ,they would not and could not speak about it .

my own grand fathers words were that i hope none of you ever have to go through this again ,what a waste of life for NOTHING ?

and now we are poised on the brink of another war and for what ,money greed because it sure as hell was not for RIGHTS or FREEDOM ,we don't have any left ,were just more cannon fodder for them and they all hide in their ivory towers while we the people kill to protect them ,from what us ,look at the mess they just made monetary system almost failed, bailed them out at our expense -Afghanistan for what oil and the new pipeline the us wants to put in fast .auto industry just screwed everyone 15% reduction in labor cost and the price went up,and we paid them to do this to us.insurance that the governments sell to the insurance companies and we need insurance for everything home, car,life,mortgage and more and the cost goes up more and more all in the name of corporate greed .
so shoot the people start a war kick start the economy like the last 2 times they did it -so where is this next war to begin -which country becomes the bad guy one more time.
why not just nuke it then there will be no more wars .
the war to end all wars -nothing left to kill or be killed by were all DEAD?

SO WHY NOT TEACH THE CHILDREN THAT IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO KILL?

It's just a game. No need to get so worked up over it. If you don't like it, then fine, but it isn't necessary to make a big deal out of the whole thing.

Also, to be honest, the game isn't that great.

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The "it's just a game" line won't work on those whose minds are already made up, it's the same as "it's only a movie" crowd.

As for the game, well it took me on an emotional roller coaster ride lol!

I did feel a bit uncomfortable with the airport level, but as said, it can be skipped.

SPOILER ALERT:

I was more upset with how many times my guys got screwed over!
Oh and I KNEW Captain Price wasn't dead! He's one tough SOB!
(yes I've completed it already )

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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
spending an afternoon with my 11 year old cousin playing Call of Duty 4, was a disturbing experience. i dont know where I stand. As a kid i had a lot of toy guns and now as an adult i'm a very placid non violent kind of person, But these games are desensitising young minds to war. the games are so realistic. It's almost like raising a generation to work in the military

Actually, no, we are not desensitized.

If I were drafted to war tomorrow I would refuse to go and face imprisonement, because I refuse to kill another human being...

and I've been playing violent video games since I was 5 years old, I am 24 now.

My pre-teen militarized kid gives it a thumbs up. He pre-ordered it 4 months ago. I can give you the entire skinny on the game tomorrow, once I've had a chance to debrief the kid.

The controversial scenes are well done. Video games will never be censored - they are outstanding educational and training models and are driving the entertainment industry. More gory details about the game coming.

I recently played through this section myself. The OP conveniently failed to provide the context. You are embedded as a terrorist in deep cover in order to take down the leader of the organization.

There is also a choice involved in the killing of civilians. I was in too much shock and awe to pull the trigger as I watched the terrorists mercilessly mow down the civilians in the airport. I only fired at the swat teams that fired on me as this was the only way to proceed. The beautiful thing about modern video games is it doesn't shove morality down your throat. It allows you to make a choice.

Much like the infamous grand theft auto series where in the fourth installment you can take over a hospital, mow down all the civilians inside and hole youself in while firing at the swat teams that arrive on the scene. But, you could also play through the entire campaign while only killing criminals and police that fire on you. Even if you do decide to kill civilians, who cares? It's a game and it doesn't necessarily make you more likely to kill anyone civilian, criminal or police in real life.

Games like this will get controversial when they become full immersion virtual reality - indistinguishable from reality.

People will cry, you'll get the smell of death, gun powder, etc. People's emotions will be totally realistic. The only difference is you don't die when you get pwned.

It's going to happen - and it's then when the games will actually begin to change people's behavior. Until then, it's just for fun.

I don't know, the OP may have a point. Check out the "Modern Warfare 2 - MK Ultra Collector's Edition". . .

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One more stone in the wall of stereotypes.
You UK-US forces are the good guys, the others are just moving targets.

I understand that the Depts of State of both countries have to justify the 10 million dollars an hour spent in Iraq and 'Stan when they have laughable social policies at home. Those games tend to make you forget the daily crap and get involved in something important, with a thousand clicks.

I love wargames, I LOVE wargames. But giving teenagers the idea of a two-faced world is way too simple.

Good luck to You, CODMW2.

Come on guys it's just a game... the Middle East terrorist theme is in right now and has been for years. Look at Battlefield 2, COD4... game developers are creating a gaming experience that is relevant to this age of warfare.

I won't be buying the game, Infinity Ward & Activision are just trying to make a buck because COD4 was such a hit. From what I've seen it looks pretty much the same as the first one!

I quote Matt Bellamy: "Paranoia is in bloom"...

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
spending an afternoon with my 11 year old cousin playing Call of Duty 4, was a disturbing experience. i dont know where I stand. As a kid i had a lot of toy guns and now as an adult i'm a very placid non violent kind of person, But these games are desensitising young minds to war. the games are so realistic. It's almost like raising a generation to work in the military

Doesn't COD4 have something like a 16+ classification? Who's the irresponsible one letting an 11 year old kid play the game?

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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
It doesn't matter what game it is.

ALL shooter games which are made in the states and it Europe show the typical "terrorist" doing "terrorist" like things.

It's simply to enforce the stereotype. People would get way more upset if you were shooting and white guys.

~Keeper

I will assume you mean "shooting white guys" ... and it shows your incredible ignorance. In the first COD Modern Warfare game the main faction was a Russian militant insurgence.

Check your facts before you spout ignorant propaganda.

Originally posted by ecoparity
I don't know, the OP may have a point. Check out the "Modern Warfare 2 - MK Ultra Collector's Edition". . .

Those guns don't come with the game. The Modern Warfare 2 Collector's Edition includes some night vision goggles which can be seen in the box.

So no, I don't think this picture backs up the OP's point at all. Anyway, there is no such thing as the Modern Warfare 2 MK Ultra Collector's Edition. Dunno who came up with that...

[edit on 11/11/09 by dmorgan]

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He's taking the piss dumbie

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Originally posted by AlwaysQuestion
reply to post by Djdoubt03

 

(perhaps with the exception of GTA but I don't know a huge amount about that game).

This is taking you a 'good' guy and getting you to be a 'bad' guy.

Your making a thread on violence in video games and you don't know anything about GTA 4? That's ridiculous. GTA 4 is the most violent game of all time. In GTA 4 you are a essentially a good guy but you are asked/forced to do bad things. Plus, you can walk around in it, killing any innocents that you want.

Video games don't turn people into violent thugs. Its just a knee jerk reaction (much like this op) from an ever increasing nanny state. If you are going to hurt/kill/mug someone, its certainly not from playing on a video game. Its not VG that influences you, its your own mental health problems.

If people can't distinguish a game from reality. Then they are already in big trouble. No matter what game they play.

There is one thing that i have realized and that is that Games make people very angry. That's not hard to see if you play FPS games online.

If you play a game online you know you are playing against another person. And flaming others in the chat box is very common. The way people communicate their anger to others through online gaming is what is scary.

The way people communicate their anger to others through online gaming is what is scary.

No, it's not scary, it's fun, insulting other gamers is a core foundation of online play

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The parent has the ultimate responsibility of deciding if his or her child is mature enough to handle the content. Neither you nor anyone else has the right to decide that for them.

Originally posted by Pockets

The way people communicate their anger to others through online gaming is what is scary.

No, it's not scary, it's fun, insulting other gamers is a core foundation of online play

Yeah i know. Some people get a kick out of being idiots to other people. And that is scary.