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"UU: Have you read Budd Hopkins’ books?
"CS: Yes, I read both Budd Hopkins’ books. Budd is very close to the truth, but the full truth is a horror story that is beyond any science fiction that you have ever read.
"UU: Are there entities of the more benevolent sort that are abducting people?
"CS: That’s correct. What they do, I would say, that they have more of a scientific curiosity (referring her to the blondes? - Branton).
"UU: They have more of a compassion, you would say?
"CS: Correct. As a matter of fact, if there was a situation where you had a weapon that could kill them and they could not escape, other than do you harm, they would permit themselves to be killed. The situation with the abduction cases, in dealing with the bad guys, is that they will go ahead and make a person try to recall the bad times of their lives.
Then the people relive those experiences, they go back to the way they felt when that experience was happening, they bring to mind the things they fear the most, they bring this out because they actually absorb something similar to osmosis these feelings that they actually feed off of. (i.e. feed off of our fear? - Branton)
"UU: So you’re saying that these particular entities that are working in this fashion are the very entities that our government made these deals with?
"CS: Yes.
"UU: Are the people within these government installations who are working with these entities experiencing such traumas, or are they left alone?
"CS: I don’t think that they are experiencing trauma because they need those people as part of the grand deception. Keep in mind, while they’re dealing with them on the physical plane they’re also actually dealing with an interdimensional phenomenon.
"UU: Like an astral phenomenon?
"CS: Yes...
Originally posted by spacevisitor
I still see them as Extraterrestrials.
the paralysis state may be accompanied by terrifying hallucinations and an acute sense of danger. Sleep paralysis is particularly frightening to the individual because of the vividness of such hallucinations.
The hallucinatory element to sleep paralysis makes it even more likely that someone will interpret the experience as a dream, since completely fanciful, or dream-like, objects (often described as looking distinctly demonic by those who experience the paralysis) may appear in the room alongside one's normal vision.
Some scientists have proposed this condition as an explanation for alien abductions and ghostly encounters. A study by Susan Blackmore and Marcus Cox (the Blackmore-Cox study) of the University of the West of England supports the suggestion that reports of alien abductions are related to sleep paralysis rather than to temporal lobe lability.
"How about there is no astral-plane and no astral beings and the aliens people think they see during their sleep paralysis is simply the effect of the sleep paralysis. Illusions brought on because the "brain awakes from a REM state, but the body paralysis persists"
Don't give me that arrogant bs attitude. What, you know better?
Please, answer me this. How come alien abductions are pretty much only happening in North America?
Originally posted by cripmeister
reply to post by ET_MAN
Thank you for that exhaustive answer. You just made the case for alien abductions even weaker.
Originally posted by andre18
Don't give me that arrogant bs attitude. What, you know better?
Originally posted by cripmeister
reply to post by ET_MAN
Please, answer me this. How come alien abductions are pretty much only happening in North America?
Originally posted by andre18
I think people are really missing the point - extremely missing the point. Like someone's jumping right in-front of you and you're just completely blind to the obvious.
How about there is no astral-plane and no astral beings and the aliens people think they see during their sleep paralysis is simply the effect of the sleep paralysis. Illusions brought on because the "brain awakes from a REM state, but the body paralysis persists"
Do you all get it now, listen to the experts.
Neurophysiological explanations include sleep paralysis and temporal lobe epilepsy (Spanos et al. 1993; Persinger 1992; Blackmore 1994), but researchers exploring these possibilities have either failed to find such pathology among abduction experiencers or have chosen to overlook important aspects of the phenomenon.
For example, many abduction experiences occur under conditions that do not appear to be associated with sleep.
Second, abduction experiences are often corroborated by independent UFO sightings or physical evidence. Third, neurophysiological explanations do not account for hyperarousal and anxiety triggered by certain events or images symbolically linked to abduction. With the integration of the specific abduction-related traumatic experience, these reactions sometimes resolve, as predicted by theories of post traumatic stress disorder.
A careful look at the existing data is enlightening. During the first two decades of research when the very concept of a UFO abduction was formed, all of the central cases involved people who were outside their homes when they were taken. None were lying paralyzed and half asleep in their bedrooms. Instead they were driving automobiles, fishing, hunting, making their rounds as police officers, even, in one famous case, driving a tractor on a farm.
Originally posted by ET_MAN
If you haven't had your own experience yet and remembered it- or wake up call then let it be. No need to push the envelope but clearly someone has not done their homework if they feel abductions are limited exclusively in North America.
No need to convince, remaining in the dark serves it's purpose and many well.
Sleep tight and don't let the bed aliens bite.
Best Wishes!
Et_man
I've been following this thread for some time and will express my gratitude for the information that you convey and the manner in which you convey it.
I have had my abduction experiences, and I've remembered some of them. I've even on two occasions spontaneously gone out of body, in one instance to view and entity at my doorway (he/she was seemed a touch irritated that I'd seen him) and in another instance to confront and "chase" the entity (although my perception had been altered).
Et_man, these 2 instances were of a negative nature, and I've had hints of others that are similar, but I also believe that I've had positive encounters that have helped me to discern them all.
to your understanding, is there a point at which we will all begin to recognize the interruptions etc that are being pressed upon us?
I've come to believe that I've had "visitors" in my dreamlife since I was a child, though I mostly do not remember my dreams (whether due to intent on part of the visitors, or defense mechanism by my unconscious/higher self, I don't know).
It became immediately clear to me upon reading the Ra Material that the childhood and adolescent dreams that I'd always dismissed as just that were preparing me for something that will occur, but I am still unclear as to how or why; and I wonder if you have further advice on how best to engage this greater world process.
Finally, I would be interested if you had thoughts to offer about the possible relation between "soul groups" and astrology and/or numerology?
If you've answered my questions in a previous post, please don't feel you need to answer again, just let me know and I'll do the requisite reading.
regards
tamale
edit: that I intended to post this in your "warning from the benevolents thread" the questions apply to any information from either thread. With apologies to Skyfloating.
cheers.
In an undated interview, Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove stated that Mack seemed "inclined to take these [abduction] reports at face value". Mack replied by saying "Face value I wouldn't say. I take them seriously. I don't have a way to account for them." Similarly, the BBC quoted Mack as saying, "I would never say, yes, there are aliens taking people. [But] I would say there is a compelling powerful phenomenon here that I can't account for in any other way, that's mysterious. Yet I can't know what it is but it seems to me that it invites a deeper, further inquiry.
Controversy has been a persistent feature of Hopkins' career in alien abduction and UFO studies. While few seem to doubt Hopkin's motives or sincerity, critics charge that Hopkins is out of his element when he uses hypnosis, thereby aiding his subjects in confabulation: the blending of fact and fantasy.
Originally posted by Unity_99
Yes, and while you're thinking comforting thoughts of sleep paralysis, know that I've been an experiencer since 4, and never had sleep paralysis once,
coinciding to my own experience at the same time in bed, sensing the grey and being asked if I wanted to be awake for this or sleep,
Paralyzing dreams
Abduction stories are strikingly similar. Victims wake up and find themselves paralyzed, unable to move or cry out for help. They see flashing lights and hear buzzing sounds. Electric sensations zing through their bodies, which may rise up in levitation. Aliens with wrap-around eyes, gray or green skin, lacking hair or noses, approach. The abductee's heart pounds violently. There's lots of probing in the alien ship. Instruments are inserted in their noses, navels, or other orifices. It's painful. Sometimes sexual intercourse occurs.
Then it's over, after seconds or minutes. The intruders vanish. Victims are back in their own beds and can move again.
Originally posted by ET_MAN
reply to post by Tamale_214
Hi Tamale_214,
What can I say # happens. Oops
NO
Not while occupying human material most will never know or distinguish the difference let alone remember the experience. (Unless for a specific reason/purpose and such people are sitting on the rare side of the cabinet.)
Do you really think anyone would believe me if I told them that everyone has been contacted at least once in their lifetime?
U2U me for the answer to this one.
The Stars never determine a persons future. Only the actions of a person can determine the future of the Stars.