Number of victims to unknown virus growing! State of emergency to be imposed in Ukraine?

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
The OP says there are 37 deads at least. Will check to see if any other sources confirm this.
[edit on 31-10-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

Thanks for posting. There are other sources already quoted, translated and linked to in the thread that confirm the figure of 37 deaths that the OP reported.

Regards,

Mike

Nothing on Swedish msm.
Were is OP?

[edit on 31-10-2009 by gusan]

Now confirm 39 dead with only 4 confirm cases of h1n1

www.polit.ru...


[edit on 31-10-2009 by LAPainter]

Two deaths from unknown virus reported in Kyiv, capital of ukraine:
biznesgid.com.ua...
fraza.ua...

The first of them – a man of 27 years – has died of complications after a flu on Thursday, on October, 29th. The illness proceeded in the extremely unusual form: during autopsy the signs of the developed Disseminated intravascular coagulation syndrome have been found out in the victim. According to a source, one more 17-year-old male patient also has died.

More on Disseminated intravascular coagulation syndrome read: en.wikipedia.org...

"The World Health Organization is sending a team of experts to Ukraine to look into reports of severe H1N1 disease there, a spokesperson for the global health agency said Friday.

Gregory Hartl said the team was being pulled together by the WHO's Global Outbreak Alert and Response Network, which goes by the acronym GOARN.

The team will travel early next week to the eastern European country, which has closed schools and banned public meetings in response to a spike in cases of acute respiratory illness believed to be H1N1."

Link (Scroll)

It does sound like a mutation doesn't it ? Tens of thousands of people in a short space of time coming down with something and of the ones that are dying there are worse /additional symptoms not typical of bog-standard H1N1 along with reports of rapid onset of death after initially developing symptoms. Couple this with almost utter silence from the MSM - if they are not suspecting a mutation to be confirmed or something else equally awful then why else the silence ? If it was "nothing much to worry about" the news would be far more forthcoming.........?

reply to post by gusan

Nothing being reported in Sweden? Now that's a bit of a worry.

Could members from other countries please also tell if their media are reporting this?

I just checked three reliable sources for the Czech Republic. Mlada Fronta Dnes, Lidove Noviny and Hospodarske Noviny ("Business News"). All are reporting this story, along with another I checked for Slovakia -- their own Business News. And it's in the print media here as well.

As for the OP, perhaps he is trying to find a pharmacy that has some useful medications and masks. He mentioned that they were difficult to obtain. Even vitamin C!

Hopefully he'll get back on line today and give us an update from his perspective on things.

Mike

The number of people infected with unknown deadly virus in Transcarpathian region of Ukraine triples in 24 hours:
korrespondent.net...

reply to post by JustMike


nothing reported in Belgium, but we are always 3 or 4 days behind, sometimes more

reply to post by JustMike


Well, it is not unusuall at all. Swedish population is the most ...ah no comment.

It was not untill yesterday the Swedish MSM informed of Switzerland´s none aprooval of the very same vaccine we are getting here in Sweden..Pandemrix! Maybe a week after or so on such important issue!?
And wen they did it was only to express their surprise, "they" swedish health auth, could not understand why Swiss would do this..you should se them on Tv man! What a face!

"Professor Moshe had called into a live radio show by Dr. A. True Ott, broadcast on Republic Broadcasting claiming to be a microbiologist who wanted to supply evidence to a States Attorney regarding tainted H1N1 Swine flu vaccines being produced by Baxter BioPharma Solutions. He said that Baxter’s Ukrainian lab was in fact producing a bioweapon disguised as a vaccine. He claimed that the vaccine contained an adjuvant (additive) designed to weaken the immune system, and replicated RNA from the virus responsible for the 1918 pandemic Spanish flu, causing global sickness and mass death"

The Link

Just a little too much of a coincidence for my liking!

No reports on this in the Netherlands on some main news sites.

At least none that i can find.

Here we go again, im more inclined to think this is suspicious and could think that this may be part of the selected few vaccines that contain a live virus

Thanks to gusan and Gypsk for the information. Well, at least you both know...

I just checked CNN (dot) com and CNN international, FOX, and the New York Times. Not a word about this Ukraine situation in any of them that I could find. I also checked the US CDC's travel advisories page to see if they are posting information for Americans who might be intending to visit the Ukraine and again, there is nothing. You can check the page here to see if they've added anything since this post.

There's nothing special been added on CDC's Ukraine Travel page either. Just the generic info that they have on many pages. I find that strange, considering there have been reports that CDC is sending a special team to the Ukraine right now.

Mike

This isn't some "new" virus or form of pneumonia, its the same swine flu virus quite a few people have been claiming is a "hyped up hoax" only in a more lethal variant.

Once again they'll send samples for testing and the same news will come back that the genetic assay shows it to be identical to the previous H1N1 clades.

No one seems to want to ask the real questions, mainly how it is the same virus can have such a wide variety of effects?

It might be worth the time and effort to go back and re-read the original swine flu thread from April / May.....

Ukraine government buying H1N1 testing equipments, from a company that never had the equipment in the first place.

www.2000.net.ua...

Ukraine closes its border with Russia due to "swine plague":
auto-world.com.ua...

reply to post by boredsilly

Yes it is suspicious and we discussed it a few pages back in the thread. Not a bad idea to have it mentioned again, though. I for one am not a fan of "coincidences" like this.

reply to post by jaamaan

Thank you for the information. So now we have this:
Reports in the main-stream media in Slovakia and the Czech Republic (and obviously in the Ukraine).

Apparent reports in Poland but we need a confirm on this. In mainstream media, that is. Regular TV or newspapers.

Do we have any confirmed msm reports in Belarus or Russia?

No reports found yet in the msm in Sweden, Belgium or the Netherlands.

I can't find any in the US msm, and no other members have reported any yet.

reply to post by Lavey2

It's fair enough to speculate but as yet we don't even have figures for the percentage of the population in those regions who were vaccinated. However, I would expect the numbers to be higher in the capital and the number of infected people reported from there (who may not even be Kiev residents) is quite low.

confirm 41 dead as of now!

mycityua.com...

Originally posted by boredsilly
"Professor Moshe had called into a live radio show by Dr. A. True Ott, broadcast on Republic Broadcasting claiming to be a microbiologist who wanted to supply evidence to a States Attorney regarding tainted H1N1 Swine flu vaccines being produced by Baxter BioPharma Solutions. He said that Baxter’s Ukrainian lab was in fact producing a bioweapon disguised as a vaccine. He claimed that the vaccine contained an adjuvant (additive) designed to weaken the immune system, and replicated RNA from the virus responsible for the 1918 pandemic Spanish flu, causing global sickness and mass death"

The Link
Just a little too much of a coincidence for my liking!

The professor is correct, technically. He's missing by a mile on the big picture however.

The squalene adjuvant is suspected to cause immune system disorders and was a banned substance in vaccines in the US until Obama's cabinet lifted the sanctions and yes, the vaccine itself is made from artificially replicated genetic material based on the 1918 flu. That is simply an effort to create a swine flu vaccine which could protect people from the deadliest known swine flu variant in history.

Other than the incident involving contamination of a vaccine with live virus material and the use of squalene there's not much there as far as solid proof of any evil intent.

The same thing goes for people acting surprised that the top virologists in the World who work for big pharma hold patents on pandemic viruses. Duh, that's what they do people, they play around with deadly diseases and try to invent vaccines / treatments for them. If you want to prove they are "drumming up business" for themselves you need something a bit more conclusive than accusing them of doing what they're supposed to do.



[edit on 31-10-2009 by ecoparity]

Reuters allertnet reported yesterday, but it was taken off the main page very soon and no updates so far
www.alertnet.org...