Were the Anasazi visited by E.T's? (pics)

reply to post by DaddyBare


Sounds like some sort of stargate. And speaking of stargates, there is a very intriguing thread here on ATS called Stargates Are Real. It is a very long thread, over 200 pages of posts. I read mainly the OP Undo's and Zorgon's contributions and let me tell you, it's an eye-opener.

I got another pictogram to add. A family friend sent this to us.

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Sorry about dropping the pic like that first time trying to do that

I don't know about ET, but I have been to Mesa Verde, and one thing is clear. They were afraid of something, and went to great lengths and tremendous efforts to be inaccessible and hidden from view. I was totally amazed at some the hanging cliff dwellings. Even today's park rangers say that accessing them, is very dangerous, and often life ending if you were to miss step...

They also had look out towers strategically placed within line of sight, so that they could warn the tribe, and they could scramble for cover. WHY?

Something was after them...the quest is to find out what exactly!

reply to post by Confused and Dazed!


Really? The site were my pic is from was like that. Totally out of the way and from what I was told quite a climb.



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That first picture looks a bit like Viking Warriors holding shields.
I heard somewhere (here?) that the Vikings may have got to the Gulf of Mexico (and this is speculation, of course, until I can find the source) and I think that they might have been portrayed in this way by people who had never seen them before.

Just a possibility.

Originally posted by Confused and Dazed!
I don't know about ET, but I have been to Mesa Verde, and one thing is clear. They were afraid of something, and went to great lengths and tremendous efforts to be inaccessible and hidden from view. I was totally amazed at some the hanging cliff dwellings. Even today's park rangers say that accessing them, is very dangerous, and often life ending if you were to miss step...

They also had look out towers strategically placed within line of sight, so that they could warn the tribe, and they could scramble for cover. WHY?

Something was after them...the quest is to find out what exactly!

A hint to why they went so far comes from the real translation of the Dine (Navajo) word "Anasazi"...
See it's real translation is "Ancient Enemy"... there has been quite an uproar when a study done in Chaco concluded they were practicing some form of cannibalism... wasn't just the saber tooth squirrels they were hiding from...

reply to post by pieman


An oversight on my part, and for further reference I found this timeline I would still doubt the possibility of Norwegian's reaching the gulf of Mexico during this time period as I have seen only speculation. i do commend your attention to detail though, and I feel your answers have as much validity as any.

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Wow! awesome to hear of ancient stories passed on though out generations, Do you think your grandfather was hinting at something? Or do you speculate, very interesting either way and thanks for sharing

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Nine nine nine
www.biblevoyages.com...

Many of the 'space alien' paintings are on human tombstones as pointed out
in this book that identified trade with America before the Fall of Rome.

After that up to Columbus they became savages and forgot where they
came from.




So dead humans not dead aliens, no aliens on Earth ever, now
or before or ever more.
ED: From not even the time of Christ to Columbus could Americans
at that time pass on their history.
And I feel Americans now are under a pile of BS from elite media moguls
to forget anything of substance.
The alien assumption is on top of the pile.


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Good post but there is one anomaly with Humans you may have dismissed, we tend to make things up to impress, trick, gain power over and manipulate the gullible 30% to gain leverage for selfish reasons.

Now to paint a picture on a wall could be for any or all of the reasons above and if by suggesting that they are merely trying to record an event or some history then that shows a level of sophistication that surely the above quirks of human nature would come into providence even more so.

Originally posted by pieman
i thought the discs hanging from the heads of the figures in the first picture was interesting too, i think the vikings used to glue their coins to their hair and beards and it makes for an interesting detail.

another thing i noticed, when you mentioned "bow", might the two gentlemen in the first drawing be holding crossbows?

It may interest you, according to the old Irish reports when we harrassed them, that we kept important thing (like amulets) twisted in the beards or chest hair, haha... I assume when a necklace broke or something. There was also an archaological site in an Irish cave with some loot pressed into the walls of the cave and such!

I think crossbow is improbable, as far as I know they were not in use by the Norsemen, and while there were skilled bowmen, it was seen as more of a cowardly weapon, hence preference for axes and swords and spears.

Originally posted by Ridhya
I think crossbow is improbable, as far as I know they were not in use by the Norsemen, and while there were skilled bowmen, it was seen as more of a cowardly weapon, hence preference for axes and swords and spears.

the crossbow was used by the normans at the time, mainly as a hunting implement rather than a weapon of war. crossbow remains have been found in viking excavations in dublin, ireland, apparently. the vikings probably knew them as a hunting tool rather than a weapon.

if they were sailing off into the unknown, i assume they'ld take the best hunting weapons they could find. if you think about it from their point of view, i can't imagine they expected to find human settlements at all when they set out from iceland, which might explain the lack of axes and swords.

i've changed my mind, i think you're right, they're clearly vikings.

You know I can see where a lot of you might like the idea of vikings being our first visitors... that theory might work well for the far NE but remember you are talking about the South West and the Anasazi....

we do know they had trade with the Mayans and plans tribes as far as old world contact there is one controversial relic

Inscription Rock down in Los Lunas, about 20 miles south of my place and not very well known.... Is covered in ancient Hebrew script!!!!

The Tel Dan inscription was written around 1000 BCE. Since the Los Lunas inscription uses the same script, it is safe to conclude that the Los Lunas inscription was written by a Hebrew people about 3,000 years ago.

Now the controversy comes in. there are a few who claim it is a more modern work, maybe written by a catholic friar maybe as early as the 1600's? but other Hebrew inscriptions have been found around the country including Tenessee and the Mississippi Valley. I'm no expert but if it's real that takes us back to the time of King Solomon and predates the vikings
inscription rock los lunas

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i wouldn't have said they were the first, there were egyptian mummies with traces of american plants in their system, it's just that the dates match. vikings were in america during the period the drawings were made. it has to make it more plausable than alien visitors.

there is evidence of settlement in the NE but the exploritive nature of the vikings makes me doubt they stayed there and, even if they did, it's also possible that news of white guys in armour with horns on their heads was important enough to spread along the grapevine.

hangedman's picture even has a guy with a sword!!!

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Maybe but We natives are known to have our own elabrate head gear.
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the truth is if you ever want to see them for yourselves just come to albuquerque on the west side of town is Petroglyph National Monument. Right in the middle of town too, no remote drives.images.google.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">Petroglyp h National Monument

Originally posted by DaddyBare
Maybe but We natives are known to have our own elabrate head gear.

that was my first reaction to the idea

still......the idea of vikings visiting the indians is compelling, periods match, weapons match, clothing matches. is there anything you're aware of that might rule the vikings out.

Originally posted by pieman
if they were sailing off into the unknown, i assume they'ld take the best hunting weapons they could find. if you think about it from their point of view, i can't imagine they expected to find human settlements at all when they set out from iceland, which might explain the lack of axes and swords.

Oh, very untrue, by religion/custom they are required to carry a knife at all times and always have their weapons nearby. They definitely brought their weapons, and in the Greenland Saga it talks of them fighting the 'skraelings' ie the natives. The Norsemen had superior weaponry (being of iron). I have a book with great photos of excavated things, and there is even an axe of whalebone in the trademark Mammen fashion.

Then there was evidence of a smith at Lans au Meadows, not proof but evidence.

Originally posted by DaddyBare
Inscription Rock down in Los Lunas, about 20 miles south of my place and not very well known.... Is covered in ancient Hebrew script!!!!

Well the Vikings were great explorers, who adored sea faring, going down rivers and all is their type of thing. Then there are the rune stones in America, far south, I do not think they were from the Norsemen, but from Norwegian Christians, no doubt in my mind. It is possible this Lunas stone is too. In another thread we were talking about the special sect or mason or something around Sweden at the time and who is probably the ones who made the rune stones. I could think they knew Hebrew too?

reply to post by pieman


not really but you have to remember what it was like back then... Around the arrival of Columbus, "it's said that squirrels could travel from tree to tree from the Northeast to the Mississippi without ever having to touch the ground," Vikings would have had to cross an entire continent to get to the Anasazi. covering rugged unexplored lands occupied by many hostile tribes... I just don't see them getting far over land.

Of course my own people the Apache were known to trade from the north west all the way to the Mississippi. it could be they were escorted??? who's to say but there's no lore in our tribe to support it and you would think there would be a lot of excitement over an event like that!

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Very elaborate...

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The man above is a Kachina Dancer, a member of the Pueblo peoples who represents a Kachina during religious ceremonies. The Kachina are spirits who represent anything and everyone one can think of, from revered ancestors, the elements or even abstract concepts. As the Anasazi are considered the ancestors of the modern Pueblo people, it is most likely these strange beings depicted in the images in this thread are in fact Kachina.

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Good point... and we still do it to this day