Obama Declares National Medical Emergency on H1N1 Flu

Originally posted by jca2005
There needs to be a national medical emergency on cancer, aids, and hiv where the world spends there time working on those cures and vaccines more than anything else......

I understand what you mean by your post, but you have to keep in mind that those three kill you slower than anything that is declared a medical national emergency. I'm not saying those diseases are not as bad, but pandemics and epidemics call for drastic action (such as calling for an National Emergency) because a very large part of the population could be wiped out faster in weeks or months than what those three have killed in all it's history. For this instance, H1N1 targets the respiratory system, which is likely to kill you off faster, but those that have asthma, weak immune system, ventilator dependent, other respiratory issues are especially vulnerable.

reply to post by Argokoo

Does this declaration of a national medical emergency mean that schools will be closed?

No, it just means that the obedient MSM will stop covering Obama's failed Health Care debacle, and spend time reporting on this non-emergency.

I do understand where Obama is coming from.

I just wanted to contribute by saying that there have been several mutations of the H1N1, all of them with much higher fatality rates. So far they have been contained but there is evidence suggesting that mutations are occurring world-wide and we will soon have several extremely deadly variations of the H1N1 in circulation globally.

This information was relayed to me by a good friend who interacts with Homeland Security, FEMA, and also has input in the WHO. It was suggested that I stock up on important supplies and to honestly be prepared for a Marshal Law Quartine scenario, as it is appearing more and more likely.

I did not honestly care about H1N1 until my friend shared this information with me, and he himself has already stocked up and is taking precautions to protect himself and his family. He is also utilizing specialized Hand Sanitizer that he says will protect your hands from harboring the H1N1 for upwards of 6-12 hours between applications. When it gets bad enough he will also be utilizing a mask that is specially treated with a polymer-bond sanitizer that kills H1N1 on contact.

In all, he says the biggest thing to fear is the mutation and subsequent quarantine that could occur nationally even globally that will severely limit and restrict basic services and even food and water. The few mutations they have caught have upwards of a 50% death rate, although subsequent infections from those mutations tend to be milder. But all it takes is 1 mutation to take hold.

I am not getting the shot, but I am putting together a survival kit and emergency supplies just in case. As well as First Aide supplies and the specialized sanitizers.

My friend has no reason to lie to me and he is indeed taking the precautions he recommended. He interacts directly with those in the know and also has access to sensitive "NON PUBLIC" information.

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Well this link says millions are infecte4d in the US. They are feeding us a line of B.S. here! I doubt there are a million let alone millions.

www.breitbart.com...

Something is going on and its not the flu... Rat Ba$tards!

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Right, but also remember the timewave speech about how we can alter our course by awareness.

Originally posted by wonderworld
The reality is that anyone who takes the FluMist vaccine can spread the disease for up to 21 days.

shatteredparadigm.blogspot.com...

This is from the actual flu-mist paperwork that the blog you used as a source is "quoting" from:

"Assuming a single transmission event (isolation of the Type B vaccine strain), the probability of a young child acquiring vaccine virus following close contact with a single FluMist vaccinee in this daycare setting was 0.58% (95% CI: 0, 1.7) based on the Reed-Frost model. With documented transmission of one Type B in one placebo subject and possible transmission of Type A viruses in four placebo subjects, the probability of acquiring a transmitted vaccine virus was estimated to be 2.4% (95% CI: 0.13, 4.6), using the Reed-Frost model."

The important take away is:

"The duration of FluMist vaccine virus replication and shedding have not been established."

I'm not going to sweat it. Kids are walking germ farms, anyway.

My guess is they know the virus has mutated. And they know it's going to be bad.

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If this really were to happen this would be the worst case scenrio, with a 50% death rate. Where in the world is this happening? Is that why the flu tracker is reporting 2000 deaths in KS? I thought it was just a fluke? Is it because it has a more dangerous strain?

Originally posted by wonderworld

Originally posted by Bad Dog
Our daughter, goes by the name Cookie Doodle here has a flu. We don't know if it's 'that' flu. They wont' test. She has asthma and so my wife is keeping a close eye on her. Her fever has been bouncing between 103 - normal for 4 days.

If your daughter has a fever, sore throat, couph. the probability is 99.9% sure she has H1N1. Our doctor said all flu's are all Swine flu...

If they refuse to test,, demand Tamiflu

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WHAT!?? That is some horrible advice! You're obviously not a medical field employee because you would know better than this!

I don't live in Swinesville, USA and most everything my wife has seen in her hospital has NOT been H1N1.

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If they know it is going to be bad keeping this information from us is just plain wrong. Why would they do that? I would think Obama would want people to be scared so he can have more power?
If it really is bad then I can protect myself by not going out as much.

My husband is a physician, and he told me to stock up on canned goods--not because of the flu, but because the government is very twitchy over this and martial law could result.

I've got bottled water stacked anyway. I'm also stocking up on dog food and other items.

He hasn't seen a single case of H1N1. I asked if he'd received memos from CDC, and he hasn't, not since spring.

Our teenaged son was very ill recently but tested negative. After 2 weeks, his temp is back to 98.6. I've got asthma and I'm already on 2 inhalers and Singulair.

I am always a "glass half empty girl," and I've got my fingers crossed this is an overreaction by our government. But I'm still stocking up and will be heading for the hills should the s hit the fan.

I am scared. Usually I am all scientific and like to use science/research to keep me calm yet with the swine flu it does not help. The research as is just as confusing.
I really don't want to have to worry about this on top of everything else. I am not getting a pay increase,utlity costs are going up and I am trying to find a better job. I am often sick due to stress...

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Interesting timing indeed! In large part because I seem to have fallen ill over the past few days with a particularly nasty virus that very well could be the Swine Flu.

Here is the thing though. I never get sick. I live alone and work at home and have almost no face to face human contact on a day to day basis and no physical human contact at all what so ever.

I first started having symptoms later Thursday night early Friday morning. Yesterday I couldn’t stop sneezing, often 10 to 15 violent sneezes in a row followed by a period of calm that would only last a moment or two only to repeat itself. My eyes were blood shot to the core to the point that even after dousing them with visine I felt compelled to wear sunglasses into the super market to hide them. As I did some brief shopping clutching a wad of Kleenex trying my best to hold off sneezing attacks it was obvious to everyone who worked there and the customers I was very sick with something. I slept about 16 hours last night and am just dragging myself out of bed; while I slept it has crept into my lungs. It didn’t come on like a cold or flu but a bizarre and severe allergy attack. I can’t say for certain it’s the Swine Flu as I have not been to a Doctor and there is little chance I will go to one unless I am in a coma and some Good Samaritan stumbles across my unconscious form. What ever it is, it has a rapid onset of a violent and urgent nature and despite the fact that I take very good care of myself with exercise, vitamins and plenty of rest and a healthy diet it has struck hard and fast.

Once again though here is the thing, there is absolutely no reason for me to be sick. I live in sunny and warm Miami.
I haven’t shook anyone’s hand or kissed anyone or hugged anyone. I am not in close contact with anyone. Every place I encounter other people it’s at a distance of at least a few feet that separates physical forms and always in well ventilated areas.

I am wracking my brain trying to figure out how I might have been infected with what ever I have been infected with. I can’t think of a reasonable explanation and the reason I am sharing this is because I can’t think of a reasonable explanation.

That Obama is choosing the same time to declare a medical emergency? A national medical emergency?

Makes a person wonder. I sure am.

YOU SAID THAT YOU WENT TO THE GROCERY STORE. THE VIRUS CAN GET TO YOU THROUGH YOUR EYES, EARS, NOSE, MOUTH FROM QUITE A FEW FEET AWAY. YOU DONT KNOW IF SOMEONE AT THE STORE HAD THE FLU.....SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

Nothings going to happen. I don't trust the vaccine but there will be no quarantine or mandatory vaccinations due to the fact that no one would enforce it. Cops wouldn't enforce it because why would they put their own families in a quarantine or force them to get an vaccine? Same with the army.

Not to upset the apple cart here but I just got this off the BBCs website , which describes the effects of the national emergency declaration:

"The aim of the directive is to remove bureaucratic hurdles, allowing sick patients to receive treatment more quickly and giving health-care providers more flexibility in providing it.

Paperwork on patients can be reduced and additional health centres set up outside hospitals to care for the sick."

Now can someone explain to me exactly what's so nefarious about this? Does anyone know what these bureaucratic hurdles are? Or can you tell me why you feel it's so important to keep them in place? What does this have to do with declaring martial law or forcing people to take the vaccine?

According to my sources, we've been in almost a constant state of emergency since the Korean War (almost 50 separate declarations) and alas, no "endgame" scenarios yet.


I don't mean to make light of anyone's concerns, but what if, for example, he didn't declare a state of emergency and a lot of children died because they couldn't get the care they needed? Wouldn't this type of negligence be a REAL reason to be concerned about the intentions of our president?

Just saying... and please avoid using the word "sheeple" in your reply. That's stopped sounding clever about a year or so ago

Pretty sure I had the H1N1. I have asthma but haven't had a good attack (where I had to be hospitalized) in around 5-10 years. Well recently I felt real bad as if stricken by what I assumed to be the H1N1 flu. I was having difficulty breathing (especially at night) so much so that it reminded me of having an asthma attack, but I am okay now and wont be getting the shot!



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You beat me to the punch and posted just about what I was going to write. Seem that anytime someone on ATS sees, "National Emergency", the automatically start to freak and geek.

What if they declared a National Emergency due to a snow storm?

Originally posted by jerico65
reply to post by obscenegrace

 

You beat me to the punch and posted just about what I was going to write. Seem that anytime someone on ATS sees, "National Emergency", the automatically start to freak and geek.

What if they declared a National Emergency due to a snow storm?

The less the emergency the more the concern over the additional powers granted.

reply to post by pyehouse

IF IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK TALKS LIKE A DUCK IT'S A DUCK.

You, pyehouse have a head in the sand attitude that will end up costing you and your friends and family much pain in the very near future.

I have been watching this build for 25 years or more and the signs are there that this is time time for the power to be to make their move.

I really wish I had better news, the truth always hurts us when it affects us directly in one way or another. .........................KMG

My wife was paged in to john Hopkins in baltimore where she works 2 hours ago.
She is off on the weekends they are all hands on deck as of right now she called me about 15 minutes ago said it's bad I mean Sat is crazy in the ER anyway but she work in P.I.C.U. and they are being over ran with kids that have test positive for H1N1 they are waiting for the Fort Meade Army mobile medical units to be brough in... THEY JUST trained for this about 2 weeks ago at M&T Bank stadium... If this falls into line with what was pre-drilled for, then,.. they knew this was gonna happen...
Look we have to keep our cool over this stuff people. Lets work together and keep people posted in different regions. I have no idea whats going on on the west coast so let just keep the info line flowing this is what ATS is all about. Don't panic lets all just keep the info line open.