Top Iranian commanders assassinated

I question why Iran would put such a large portion of their Military leadership in one place at the same time. I mention this because they (Iran) should be fully aware of things like this and the ever present possibility of things such as bombings taking place. This awareness should be emphasize by the fact the entire world is watching every move they make because of their nuclear aspirations.

Yeah, this is pretty fishy. I am at work and can't tell if this event has hit the MSM (Fox,Cnn,MsNbc,etc) yet.





[edit on 18-10-2009 by Mr.Hyde] for type-o's

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It's a good job I am not the US President.

Why?

Because this last few years, I am sick & tired of hearing about Iran & North Korea in the news.

All their childish threats, u did this, stop saying that etc! Literally like kids. Supplying terrorists around the World with weapons to kill US troops and innocent civillians.

The World will never be a safe and happy place whilst they keep doing this.

So I would say "I've had enough of this" and order them to be "obliterated" as the Russian said in the movie Firefox!

Please stop your whining, we're all sick of it. Little Kimmy and Mr Pyjama, are you listening?

Enough is enough or you WILL suffer the consequences!

Peace at last!!!

Forgot to mention.

Whilst the Iranians are running around like idiots because their top commanders have been killed, NOW might be an ideal time to hit them, i.e tonight!

Somebody said about cutting the head off the chicken, maybe that was it?

Originally posted by minkey53
Forgot to mention.

Whilst the Iranians are running around like idiots because their top commanders have been killed, NOW might be an ideal time to hit them, i.e tonight!

Somebody said about cutting the head off the chicken, maybe that was it?

how old are you?

I think this has to do with Iran's recently discovered secret nuclear facility.

I think this definitely has the hallmarks of CIA or Mossad involvement. The fact that the US supports the group that did this makes me scratch my chin.

Personally, I think that if this was a black ops attack by the US or Israel that it might not be such a terrible thing as long as it doesn't lead to an invasion of Iran, the reasons for which I will explain later. A secret nuclear facility is a huge red flag and stands in the way of real peace in the region. If Iran did produce a weapon, that would be very unfortunate situation.

I think if anything, with Iran's Supreme Leader being incapacitated, and considering the protesters clashing with Iran's security forces earlier this year, that an assassination of Iran's commanders fits well with the US trying to support a popular revolution in Iran while at the same time rebuking the Iranian leadership for hiding a nuclear reactor from the world.

Back to why an invasion would be a bad thing. If there is a full-scale invasion of Iran by either the US or Israel that would push a lot of people who would be leaning toward a new Iranian popular revolution back to supporting the regime in defense of their homeland. However, if the US helps the revolutionary movement by "cutting the head off the snake" so to speak, but does it with subtlety, that it would inspire the common Iranian people, many of whom do not support the current regime, to take action against their government, which is now less able to strike back due to the loss of commanders.

Ideally, if the US indeed was involved, we would want the Iranian people to think that their own government attacked them if we wanted to cause the maximum amount of civil unrest in Iran, since elder tribal leaders were also killed in the blast.

If these assassinations help cause a popular revolution in the area without direct US involvement, enough to cause a regime change in Iran that is less fanatical, then I will be able to say with confidence that this attack was a good thing, whether it is a black-op or not.

If however, this attack is a black-op in preparation for a preemptive strike and subsequent invasion, then it is a terrible mistake.

If the Iranians firmly believe they know who is behind it and if the assassins are not Iranian opposing forces or shadow groups, and those from a identifiable outside country, then I believe the only suitable solution is to consider American, British and Canadian (I am Canadian) and Israeli, etc 'Commanders' fair meat for assassinations.

We shouldn't take retaliatory action against anyone because this will be battlefield justice between murderous commanders on all sides, and our commanders may be next.




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reply to post by Albastion


well thought out, and eloquently stated. That's precisely why I haven't been too upset at the possibility that it may have been CIA inspired. If it was CIA, you can be sure there's a plan, and it most likely doesn't involve a disastrous invasion.

I've heard about unusual military activity lately in the states, but nothing on a scale that would indicate preparations for an invasion.

[edit on 2009/10/18 by nenothtu]

I'm calling shenanigans on this being a US op, after all, Obama is the Nobel Peace Prize winner, and a Muslim! Surely, with such street cred, he wouldn't hurt a fly now would he? Well, unless of course they are late-term infants in the womb.

Originally posted by star in a jar
If the Iranians firmly believe they know who is behind it and if the assassins are not Iranian opposing forces or shadow groups, and those from a identifiable outside country, then I believe the only suitable solution is to consider American, British and Canadian (I am Canadian) and Israeli, etc 'Commanders' fair meat for assassinations.

We shouldn't take retaliatory action against anyone because this will be battlefield justice between murderous commanders on all sides, and our commanders may be next.




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Oh! Maybe we can give them a list?! They can start with the whole of Washington DC and Brit Parliament and 10 Downing.

Originally posted by deccal

Originally posted by minkey53
Forgot to mention.

Whilst the Iranians are running around like idiots because their top commanders have been killed, NOW might be an ideal time to hit them, i.e tonight!

Somebody said about cutting the head off the chicken, maybe that was it?

how old are you?

'Shock and Awe' worked real well, correct? Can someone look up some pagan or satanic holidays that are coming up? Oh...oh wait....Halloween is coming! 10/19/87 too, Black Friday's anniversary.

Originally posted by nenothtu
reply to post by Albastion

 

well thought out, and eloquently stated. That's precisely why I haven't been too upset at the possibility that it may have been CIA inspired. If it was CIA, you can be sure there's a plan, and it most likely doesn't involve a disastrous invasion.

I've heard about unusual military activity lately in the states, but nothing on a scale that would indicate preparations for an invasion.

[edit on 2009/10/18 by nenothtu]

Send a few case officers into the mountains to establish networks of contacts and assets. Link up that network and recruit some Jihadis. Not necessarily the actual Jihadists themselves but at least their commander or tier one guys. You extort them or bribe them and bam there you go. You have indigenous assets carrying out bombing operations. Of course the NE Division would provide logistical assistance to the bombers but overall that is probably what they are doing.

Or the ISI is doing the same with the CIA involved somehow. Either way since the Iranian Operations division has been worthless since they were created I can see the Near East division taking the ball somehow. Maybe the Persia house finally did something...

I believe that militant group took them out.........
IT happens, just got a good shot

now.........
Just because it's the USraeli's advantage doesn't mean it's Amerisrael funded, eh?

Looks like just some uncle sam orchestrated terrorism. Consider Jundallah the us version of hamas...

"Not long after severing its ties with al-Qaeda, the group started a relationship with the United States government."

Surely the iranians have the right to defend themselves, eh? against a un ignoring & war starting nation that supports terrorism on irans soil, and has leaders who have threatened to "obliterate" and "bomb bomb bomb iran"..

An iranian "all options on the table" retaliation strike would be 100% justified, eh? Against those who fund / support terrorism, AND have threatened to wipe iran off the map.. iran would just be following the uncle officer sam world police policy of fighting 'them' terrorists over "there".

obama said something about the us ignoring borders to combat the evils of terrorism.. if he was a man of his word, he would order his immediate arrest and transfer to Guantanamo Bay and the occupation of cia hq.

news.antiwar.com...

Top Jundallah Figure Says US Ordered Attacks
Baloch Separatist Group Stopped Getting al-Qaeda Aid in 2003, Then Started Getting US Aid

Does anyone feel this is a CIA operation with Obama blessing

or

Is this the CIA doing things without Obama's knowledge?

U.S. officials say the U.S. relationship with Jundullah is arranged so that the U.S. provides no funding to the group, which would require an official presidential order or "finding" as well as congressional oversight.

blogs.abcnews.com...

I still personally feel this is Iran putting the administration on the defense.

Khomeni in a coma (or dead?)

Assassination of top military commanders

is a power vacuum coming?

Mousavi also upping his pressure; calling for another demonstration/rally for Iranian democracy. Next to be held supposedly Nov. 4th.


ed: sp



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Don't underestimate Amidinanut on this one. This could be a power grab by him now that the supreme one is in a coma or these Generals could have been planning a coup.

I cant help but notice Web-Bots original prediction for the 25th, War with Iran and Israel. We just may see this escalate if Iran retaliates in a way that can be linked to them easy.

The worst way they can hurt the U.S. is to sink one of our ships in the Gulf.
The only thing they can do to Israel is launch a missile at them and that wont work out well for Iran at all.

reply to post by minkey53


Im curious how you think 'obliterating' them will bring 'peace at last'

no wonder the worldhates America. look at your 'future leaders'

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no wonder the worldhates America. look at your 'future leaders'

Not being rude, but are you psychic?

How do you know this will be one of America's future leaders?

IMO, this is one of those stray comments you might hear coming from a citizen of any country.

BTW, minkey53 is from England.

Originally posted by mrmonsoon
it now seems Iran is wildly accusing everyone of doing it.

"Iran accuses Pakistan over attack"

"Iran's president has accused Pakistani agents of involvement in a suicide bombing in south-east Iran targeting a group of elite Revolutionary Guards."
BBC

So lets see:
The US did it.............
Isreal did it...................
Pakistan did it..............

Talk about grasping at straw.............

So you are saying Duh I ain't got no clue who done it.
Please ATS members help me figure this, I got nothing.
Iran? who? assassination?

Originally posted by CanadianDream420
I believe that militant group took them out.........
IT happens, just got a good shot

now.........
Just because it's the USraeli's advantage doesn't mean it's Amerisrael funded, eh?

Folks that are void of historical thinking and
cupcake queens have uttered similar retoric
about other assassinations. This one is different.