Top Iranian commanders assassinated

Is this not an act of war if USA is found to be involved?....

Because they're blaming it on us, USA.

"We consider the recent terrorist attack to be the result of US action. This is a sign of America’s animosity against our country,” Larijani said.
“Mr. Obama has said he will extend his hand towards Iran, but with this terrorist action he has burned his hand,” he added, referring to US President Barack Obama.

They call us the "world arrogance." How long till someone pops us on the nose again?

This scares me. This bombing was at peace talks. That's some bad mojo.

reply to post by wylee


It doesn't matter if they are caught. The U.S. populace can delude themselves in believing something else and no one will be punished.

Not sure if this is relevent but there's a new moon tonight. Possible coincidence?

Originally posted by TheCoffinman
the leader of jundallah, abdulmalik rigi, has stated several times that his group is funded by the united states. the iranians know this. perhaps something is about to go down in iran. as in a us/israeli airstrike??

Don't need a decapitation before an airstrike, you only need bombers and escorts to deal with AA batteries. Matter of fact, a decapitation would telegraph that something is about to go down, sure as sending a Western Union cable.

Decapitations are generally carried out immediately prior to a ground invasion, the closer the better to avoid that same telegraphing, and keep reorganization time to a minimum. Also, massed troops are necessary for a ground invasion, and there's not much evidence of that.

IF a ground invasion were in the works, it would be a horrendous miscalculation on someone's part. It would unite the currently divided citizenry, and be way too costly in blood and treasure. Remember the Iraq-Iran war? Iran was sending unarmed citizens by the millions to the front to fight, and they were dying in droves, but kept coming.

Nope, ground invasion is not a smart option, and neither is sending a love letter just before an air strike. Not saying it ain't so, just saying it ain't very bright if it is.

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What if it's the Iranians setting this up to blame the USA and send in an invasion force into Iraq. What if they are doing this as a last resort as they know the US and Israel will attack any day now and they are going for broke?

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I think that no matter who actually did the bombing, the USA was behind it. The timing seems to fit right in there reeeeeeel good. hehehehe.

The Head of Iran's Sistan-Baluchestan province Judiciary Ebrahim Hamidi said that 13 members of Jundallah (Soldiers of God) terrorist group have been hanged in a prison in Zahedan city Tuesday morning.

The execution of another convict of the group, Abdolhamid Rigi, a brother of Jundallah leader Abdolmalik Rigi, has been postponed on the request of an intelligence official for further investigation about the group, he told ISNA.

Abdolhamid Rigi will be hanged in 2 or 3 days, he said.

www.payvand.com...

I think it is just retaliation. I also see it as a crisis were Iran can blame the US and others to put the administration on the defensive.

Remember Obama has to prove to the world he is different from Bush.

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Here's a link to the Jandullah-USA connection.

watchingamerica.com...

But couldn't this have to do with Iran dropping the dollar would it. When in doubt de-stablize.

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I think that no matter who actually did the bombing, the USA was behind it. The timing seems to fit right in there reeeeeeel good. hehehehe.

You really think Obama could be that calculating and willing to do such thing.

Knowing that if it is discovered that he sanctioned such thing, the world will realize that all the change and speeches he has given so far where nothing but lies.

Iran is blaming Pakistan for the attack

The talks were part of efforts to foster Shi'ite-Sunni unity and the Guards said the attack was aimed at fomenting sectarian strife in Sistan-Baluchestan province, media said. About 10 senior tribal figures were among the dead. Iranian officials also accused the United States and Britain of involvement, a charge rejected by Washington. Tehran says the United States backs Jundollah to stir trouble in the border area and has also linked the group to Sunni Islamist al Qaeda. The armed forces' headquarters issued a statement warning of "revenge", the semi-official Fars News Agency reported. The southeastern province is the scene of frequent clashes between security forces, ethnic Baluch Sunni insurgents and heavily-armed drug traffickers. Jundollah, which accuses Iran's Shi'ite-led government of discrimination against Sunnis in the remote desert region, has been blamed for many deadly incidents over the last few years. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said those behind the attack would be "seriously dealt with" and called on Pakistan to help catch and hand them over. Iran has in the past said Jundollah members were operating from its neighbour. "We were informed that some security agents in Pakistan are cooperating with the main elements of this terrorist incident," Fars News Agency quoted him as saying. "We ask the Pakistani government not to delay any longer in the apprehension of the main elements in this terrorist attack." The Foreign Ministry summoned a senior Pakistani diplomat in Tehran and said there was evidence the perpetrators came to Iran from Pakistan. "The Pakistani official assured Tehran his country would take all measures to secure its border with Iran," state television said. "COMPLETELY FALSE" The deputy head of the Guards' ground forces, General Nourali Shoushtari, and its commander in Sistan-Baluchestan province, General Rajabali Mohammadzadeh, were among the dead. Shoushtari was also a senior official of the Guards' elite Qods force. "Rigi's terrorist group has claimed responsibility for the attack," said state television, referring to Abdolmalek Rigi, leader of Jundollah which is linked by some analysts to the Taliban in Pakistan.

Source - in.news.yahoo.com...

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I doubt Obama has as much control over the CIA as we'd like to think.

yep,im pretty sure that is a mossad attack as well,sneaky little dudes.
well thats what they get for having weapons of mass destruction

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I doubt Obama has as much control over the CIA as we'd like to think.

I grant you that possibility. But as of now I have yet to see evidence from this administration that the CIA is doing its own thing.

Furthermore, with the CIA being investigated by the administration, I would think the CIA would be more cautious about what actions they take.

Whether we were behind it or not, this is good news.

The day of reckoning for the Iranian regime will come eventually.

My theory is:

Ahmadinejad is the guy that is supposed to be installed as the leader there in iran. He is a perfect "antagonist" for the game being played. He fits in great for TBTP. His top guys get wind of the fact that he actually wants war and challenge him on it. He offs them and reports it as an outside attack. problem solved.

Originally posted by ufoorbhunter
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What if it's the Iranians setting this up to blame the USA and send in an invasion force into Iraq. What if they are doing this as a last resort as they know the US and Israel will attack any day now and they are going for broke?

In that scenario, it wouldn't make sense for them to decapitate their own military before an invasion.

Unless those killed were of questionable loyalties.

We'd also be seeing an Iranian military buildup at the Iraq border, and I've heard no reports of that, yet.

I'm not discounting the possibility, though, just throwing out actions and reactions, so folks know what to look for, and which way it goes depending on what they see.

After all, it's always possible there is an unseen hand moving under the quilt.

If the United states or Isreal hit an active underground nuclear facility the environmental damage will be catastrophic and the danger will spread world wide. Considering we are talking about several sites we could be at risk of a persistent radiation threat in the jetstream for up to 18 weeks. The Jingos rawring up for a war should take that into consideration. Furthermore Iran is not Iraq. They really do have agents here.

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Originally posted by antonia
If the United states or Isreal hit an active underground nuclear facility the environmental damage will be catastrophic and the danger will spread world wide. Millions of children with cancer world wide?

That's a bit of an exaggeration don't you think?
I mean the US, USSR, China, India Pakistan and France have all tested hundreds of much larger detonations above ground releasing tons more of radiation into the atmosphere. Did all of that happen then?

North Korea just popped off a few underground tests nothing was released.

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We are talking about two different things. The nuclear tests you speak of involved actual explosions on islands a good distance from populated areas. Furthermore the Korean test was UNDERGROUND and not even very large. They didn't involve more than one active nuclear reactor smack dab in the middle of a populated area of the world. Look up Chernobyl if you want to know what an actual nuclear reactor meltdown will cause.

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